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Judge Rules on Kari Lake Being Able to Review 2022 Ballot Envelope Signatures
The Western Journal ^ | Nov 30, 2023 | Randy DeSoto

Posted on 11/30/2023 7:23:58 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

An Arizona judge on Wednesday denied 2022 Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake's request to review ballot envelope signatures, concluding it "would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process."

In September, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge John Hannah presided over a two-day trial to decide whether Lake's legal team could have access to review the ballot envelope signatures for the 2022 general election in the county.

Lake lost the race to Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs by less than 1 percent of the vote.

Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer denied the GOP candidate's request in April, prompting her to go to court.

In a post on the X social media platform in September, Richer said he was defending voter privacy and election security by not releasing the ballot envelopes for Lake to review. “I believe these envelopes are not public record according to state statute. And I believe that making them public would have a chilling effect on voting, would weaken the security controls on early voting, and would open the door to voter harassment,” he wrote.

Lake responded at the time, “Professional Victim @stephen_richer is lying again. We’re not asking these signatures to be made public. We are asking to review them to assess whether they are legitimate or not. We have a STRONG reason to believe they’re not. Clearly, so does Stephen.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; ballotreview; electionfraud; electionfraud2022; electionresults; fraud; johnhannah; karilake; katiehobbs; maricopa; maricopacounty; maricoping; stephenricher
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Not sure I'm understanding this correctly, is the judge saying preserving election integrity is more important than proving election fraud?
1 posted on 11/30/2023 7:23:58 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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concluding it "would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process."

Eff this skeezy rigged-"elections" banana republic that we live in.


2 posted on 11/30/2023 7:30:17 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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What the judge is saying is that discovery that some of the signatures are fraudulent would undermine the public's confidance in the electoral process.

Sort of the point isn't it?

3 posted on 11/30/2023 7:30:50 PM PST by facedown (uite)
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The judicial system in AZ is fubar’d.

It has the McCain corruption infestation.


4 posted on 11/30/2023 7:31:12 PM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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Kari Lake's request to review ballot envelope signatures, concluding it "would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process."

WTF? I think ruling the way he did corrodes public confidence even more because it appears the judge fears that some ballot/vote tampering did occur.

This ruling erode public confidence in the voting process; this is just another nail in that confidence coffin. I fear for this Republic.

5 posted on 11/30/2023 7:31:15 PM PST by econjack
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The corrupt courts have me convinced that vote fraud has been happening for a long time. Long enough to make sure they had the corrupt judges needed to keep the fake elections in place.


6 posted on 11/30/2023 7:31:39 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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concluding it "would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process."

Uhm....so...uhm....yeah...well maybe, just maybe...uhm...may I dare suggest...the elections be conducted in an honest transparent way???

7 posted on 11/30/2023 7:32:24 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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“An Arizona judge on Wednesday denied 2022 Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake’s request to review ballot envelope signatures, concluding it “would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process.””

Cannot review the process for fraud. That would corrode public trust. Quite an amazing admission. One would think it would strengthen trust.... unless of course....


8 posted on 11/30/2023 7:35:31 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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MEANWHILE, IN A RELATED STORY...!


9 posted on 11/30/2023 7:35:42 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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Judge -- "would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process."

LOLOLOL....pant, pant, pant...ROFLOL.

He's nuts. There is ZERO public confidence today. Can you corrode a ZERO?

10 posted on 11/30/2023 7:36:18 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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She’s saying 17,000 ballots are no good. She wants to see for herself if the match. I saw the process and how they reviewed them and how ballots were resolved. IMHO....Kari should be concentrating on her run...I think Sinema is going to clobber her. Kari’s experience...”0”.


11 posted on 11/30/2023 7:36:21 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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No, he is saying the dems have a good thing going. Proof of election fraud that might lead people to believe that elections are rigged.

That is the corrosive slope of insurrection.

Imagine for example that the covid VAX were proven to be unsafe and ineffective, the mental health effects on the sheep would foment distrust unrest and unhappiness.


12 posted on 11/30/2023 7:36:51 PM PST by algore
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MEANWHILE, IN A RELATED STORY...!

FEEL FREE TO SHARE...'CAUSE IT WILL SOON BE HAPPENING EVERYWHERE!


13 posted on 11/30/2023 7:37:30 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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Except this is about the 10th suit over the same issue.


14 posted on 11/30/2023 7:37:32 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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Wait, if this proved things were correct, wouldn’t that prove the election was legit? The ruling suggests the judge knows it was stolen.


15 posted on 11/30/2023 7:38:47 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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Being able to review ballot signatures “would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process." ?

Other likely pearls of wisdom from this genius:

Allowing diners enough light to see their food would have a corrosive effect on their satisfaction with their meal.

Permitting prospective car buyers to test drive cars would have a corrosive effect on sales of certain models of cars.

Requiring periodic audits of banks would have a corrosive effect on public faith in some banks.

And to come full circle: Requiring government transparency would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in their elected officials.

16 posted on 11/30/2023 7:38:53 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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[[ it “would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process.”]]

Judge must be a mind reader- but he sucks at it as many have stated that they want FAIR elections and a transparent process!


17 posted on 11/30/2023 7:39:57 PM PST by Bob434
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concluding it "would have a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process."

Keeping the process opaque has a corrosive effect on public confidence in the electoral process.
18 posted on 11/30/2023 7:40:14 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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Not sure I'm understanding this correctly, is the judge saying preserving election integrity is more important than proving election fraud?

The gist of it is that letting the loser of an election check to see the names of people who voted for the winner amounts to a means to collect the names of voters, which allows the losing candidate to harass those voters.

I understand that part, but by denying any sort of validation check on the ballots, there's no way for the losing party to have confidence that they lost fairly.

The winning party and the bureaucrats affiliated with the losing party don't have a problem with the losing party not having confidence in the elections. It actually serves their purpose better if they stay home and don't vote.

The problem really isn't really whether or not Kari Lake lost fair and square, but that the dems see no reason to look into the claims of fraud and prove it because they don't believe they'll ever end up on the other end of this problem.

19 posted on 11/30/2023 7:40:33 PM PST by jz638
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20 posted on 11/30/2023 7:42:12 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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