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To: daniel1212
Although I certainly agree that Kim Davis did a righteous thing by refusing, in my opinion she made a serious mistake in how she did it.

She was hired and paid to do a job -- as County Clerk she was hired and paid to issue licenses, etc. If she found she could not perform that job in good conscience, she should have quit. Quietly and privately, or loudly and publicly, whichever she wished.

But simply refusing to do the job she was hired and paid to do, she risked having The System come down on her like a ton of bricks. And it certainly has done so.

So while I sympathize with her position and plight, AND suspect that this whole shebang was a "gotcha" setup from the start, I would have counseled her to quit right then and there, and fight the battle in a situation where she had a chance of winning. Instead she took a stand, and now has paid dearly for doing so. She is a martyr, not a victor. And I find that saddening.

5 posted on 01/02/2024 10:06:11 PM PST by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: dayglored

What’s her stand on marriage?? She’s been married 3 times.


12 posted on 01/02/2024 10:13:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: dayglored
I would have counseled her to quit right then and there, and fight the battle in a situation where she had a chance of winning.

If she quit due to being confronted with the marriage license then they still could've went after here. In any case, this is an abomination, with Robert's creativity being rightly condemned by Scalia

In Obergefell v. Hodges Justice Scalia stated that the majority's Equal Protection analysis was “quite frankly, difficult to follow" and “fails to provide even a single sentence explaining how the Equal Protection Clause supplies independent weight for its position." " The ruling was nothing more than a "naked judicial claim to legislative — indeed, super-legislative — power; a claim fundamentally at odds with our system of government." "A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers does not deserve to be called a democracy." - http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

A nation that sanctions abomination is under condemnation and headed for damnation. The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)

13 posted on 01/02/2024 10:15:48 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: dayglored
If she found she could not perform that job in good conscience, she should have quit.

Yes

14 posted on 01/02/2024 10:16:51 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: dayglored

I disagree. We need people who hold comservative beliefs to remain in office and do the right thing.

You don’t see libtards / communists quitting their posts when they feel the heat. They have to be removed kicking and screaming, if they are even removed at all.


26 posted on 01/02/2024 10:48:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dayglored
She was hired and paid to do a job

Would you say the same for doctors who refuse to do abortions or refuse to do sex changes because of their religious beliefs or for conscience sake?

50 posted on 01/03/2024 1:31:37 AM PST by JesusIsLord ( )
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To: dayglored

So Christian doctors must perform abortions? And soldiers must obey what they believe as unlawful orders.. say orders to exterminate citizens such as yourself because one man signed a paper.
This homosexual stuff did not go through the legislative process. It is not lawful. One man rule is not Constitutional.
She has a bad lawyer, just like the J6 gulag.. she is being made an example to a more obedient society.


56 posted on 01/03/2024 3:37:12 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: dayglored

Having been in a similar situation I agree with Kim pertaining to what she did and how she did it. Quitting was not the correct decision. By staying in the position, she had an opportunity to influence the situation, she did delay the licensing. Her job was to approve or disapprove the legal process. Or are you saying that the engineers involved with the approval of the “O” ring on the Challenger should have quit instead of trying to delay the launch? It was part of their job also to approve or disapprove the readiness of the space craft. If they had not fought and announced their disapproval the whole episode would have been swept under the rug and the public today would not know about the crime. And with Kim the two persons she delayed was given witness to God’s standard and glory, which they needed.The public now still is bearing witness to this situation; which would not be happening if she just quietly quit. The end of the story has not been yet written. All things work together for the glory of those that love the Lord. God always has the last word.


63 posted on 01/03/2024 4:54:52 AM PST by jimfr
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To: dayglored
I tend to agree with you about the distinction between her principles and her approach.

One thing that weighs heavily in her favor, however, is the legal arguments that she presented when she was originally jailed by this same judge for refusing to sign the “marriage” certificate. In one of her court hearings, she made a very simple point that turned out to be ultimately damning for the court (I’m paraphrasing):

“If the matter of this marriage certificate is so important to you, your honor, then why don’t you just sign it yourself?”

His response: “As a Federal judge, I have no authority to sign a state marriage document.”

He was exactly right … but that was the exact same legal reason why the U.S. Supreme Court had no business overturning Kentucky’s marriage laws in the first place.

She ought to fight this case all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and have those morons explain this clear legal conflict in its own rulings and procedures.

64 posted on 01/03/2024 4:58:17 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: dayglored

“ She was hired and paid to do a job”

The president’s job is to secure the border. How much is he being fined?


71 posted on 01/03/2024 6:03:23 AM PST by Gary from Dayton (Army Vet 1986-1991)
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To: dayglored

I disagree. Davis was obeying the Constitution of the State of Kentucky. That has massive authority.


76 posted on 01/03/2024 6:29:06 AM PST by fwdude (.)
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