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Former Kentucky clerk [ Kim Davis] in gay marriage case must pay additional $260K ( on top of the $100,000 in damages she was ordered to pay)
THE HILL ^ | 01/02/24 | LAUREN SFORZA

Posted on 01/02/2024 9:47:22 PM PST by daniel1212

The former Kentucky clerk who refused to grant a gay couple a marriage license must pay an additional $260,104 to the couple, a federal judge ruled last week.

David Ermold and David Moore sued former Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis in 2015 after she declined to issue the couple a marriage license because doing so would violate “God’s definition of marriage” and her religious beliefs as a Christian.

The additional fees Davis must pay are on top of the $100,000 in damages she was ordered to pay Ermold and Moore in September after losing the lawsuit the couple brought.

Davis’s legal team argued that the proposed attorneys’ fees put forward by the couple’s lawyers were too much, saying that the fees should be reduced by more than 50 percent. U.S. District Judge David L. Bunning sided with the couple and awarded them $246,026.40 in attorneys’ fees and $14,058.30 in expenses, according to court documents published last week.

Bunning said that the couple’s requested attorneys’ fees were “reasonable” in his order.


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To: dayglored
Martyrs provide spiritual inspiration, and win the approval of God, but generally do not change The System. Victors have the greater effect on The System, and as far as I can tell, also win the approval of God. I respect the martyrs because they maintained their faith in the face of evil, but I also praise the victors because they triumphed over evil. And that matters.

A false dilemma in the context in which Christian martyrs usually became such. For when the choice is either to compromise or stand firm for the right, then the loser is the compromiser (as in confessing Caesar is lord).

If Kim Davis went along with the system, then she would have been a loser. What you are advocating is escaping (Matthew 2:13) a situation, versus being placed in one in which one must give in to the system or stand. In the latter case it is "Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone, Dare to have a purpose firm, Dare to make it known."

41 posted on 01/02/2024 11:49:42 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: dayglored

Rachel Corrie was not a government official. Second Kim wasn’t risking her life in front of a bulldozer.

We need lesser magistrates to stand up for us. Especially when government passes immoral laws that punish Christians or reward and encourage immorality.

Its not your call to tell others what battles are good for them to fight or not. Everyone has their own red lines. You may think it wasn’t worth it. Others say it was. Kim decided it was.


42 posted on 01/02/2024 11:51:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mass55th
She’s been legally harassed as much as baker Jack Phillips has been.

Indeed, as a precursor of what is to come as the wrath of The System is made more manifest as it seeks to make an example of all who dare oppose it, and which includes the tactic of inciting some to violence so as to class all opposition as terrorists, or potential ones. You never can be too sure even about those Amish. /Sar

Noe time to sleep. Have a God night all

43 posted on 01/02/2024 11:57:11 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212
> If Kim Davis went along with the system, then she would have been a loser. What you are advocating is escaping (Matthew 2:13) a situation, versus being placed in one in which one must give in to the system or stand. In the latter case it is "Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone, Dare to have a purpose firm, Dare to make it known."

I do respect Davis' decision to stand for her beliefs, since it demonstrated her commitment to her faith, and that deserves respect. It would have been most unfortunate for her if she had folded, staying in her job and issuing the license, because in the long run keeping one's integrity and faith outweighs keeping one's job.

Since she's been effectively neutered by being financially crushed, it will now fall to others to fight a battle another way, that perhaps can result in government getting out of the marriage business entirely... but it's 3AM and I can't get started on that tack tonight. :-)

Have a great evening and thank you for this worthwhile exchange. God Bless.

44 posted on 01/03/2024 12:02:12 AM PST by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: daniel1212

If I were Shenna Bellows, this verdict would make me just a teeny bit nervous.


45 posted on 01/03/2024 12:05:51 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | http://mewe.com/i/hopalongginsberg)
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To: Secret Agent Man
> Its not your call to tell others what battles are good for them to fight or not. Everyone has their own red lines. You may think it wasn’t worth it. Others say it was. Kim decided it was.

Oh, I would not presume to "tell others", unless they sought my counsel, and even then I would only express my opinion of how I would proceed.

As you say, everyone has their own red line. I respect Kim's decision, and respect her keeping her faith. Having a different opinion of whether that was the wisest decision does not affect that respect. And in becoming a martyr, she provides inspiration to others of like mind. That also has value, whether in a moral or practical sense.

I'm packing it in for the night. Thanks for the exchange, and have a great evening.

46 posted on 01/03/2024 12:10:31 AM PST by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: daniel1212

Her past discretion is forgiven. God has forgotten about it, so we need to forget about it. I would have resigned if I was her, though.


47 posted on 01/03/2024 12:17:25 AM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis)
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To: lastchance

Don’t get in the way of the globohomo sodomites.


49 posted on 01/03/2024 1:24:34 AM PST by kiryandil (Free Rocco!!)
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To: dayglored
She was hired and paid to do a job

Would you say the same for doctors who refuse to do abortions or refuse to do sex changes because of their religious beliefs or for conscience sake?

50 posted on 01/03/2024 1:31:37 AM PST by JesusIsLord ( )
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To: daniel1212

Once gay marriage became the law of the land, her only honorable position was to resign her office. This was a forced tactical error on her part. Very sad


51 posted on 01/03/2024 2:29:33 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: dayglored

“The wise person gets out of the way of the crusher, and lives to fight another day, in a battle that can be won.”

Agreed.

That is the Sun Tzu approach.

The dumb person picks a hill to stand on when they are surrounded by enemies on all sides—and are crushed.


52 posted on 01/03/2024 2:30:16 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: daniel1212

“when the choice is either to compromise or stand firm”

Sometimes the only way to win the game is to refuse to play.

The best time to do that is when the game is rigged by evil people.

You should have the right to choose when you fight battles and to structure the battlefield so you will win.

The perverts currently control the legal battlefield.


53 posted on 01/03/2024 2:39:21 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: daniel1212

[June 26, 2015]

Was that the day that the White House was turned into an abomination?


54 posted on 01/03/2024 2:43:40 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: daniel1212

Christianity is about forgiveness. No one has a right to chide her for past indiscretions. She became a new creation through Christ Our Lord. It’s the wokesters who never forgive people for what they have said or done in the past, destroying their lives.


55 posted on 01/03/2024 2:53:18 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: dayglored

So Christian doctors must perform abortions? And soldiers must obey what they believe as unlawful orders.. say orders to exterminate citizens such as yourself because one man signed a paper.
This homosexual stuff did not go through the legislative process. It is not lawful. One man rule is not Constitutional.
She has a bad lawyer, just like the J6 gulag.. she is being made an example to a more obedient society.


56 posted on 01/03/2024 3:37:12 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: daniel1212

PURE EVIL!!!


57 posted on 01/03/2024 3:37:46 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: daniel1212

Thanks for that well done post.


58 posted on 01/03/2024 3:45:59 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: daniel1212

U.S. District Judge David L. Bunning = Scum of the Earth!


59 posted on 01/03/2024 3:47:50 AM PST by ohioman (ncestorts.)
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To: Sacajaweau
And she’s been married like 3 times.

Donald Trump has been married exactly three times.

HERETIC!!! SINNER!!! SON OF SATAN!!! AWAY WITH HIM!!!

60 posted on 01/03/2024 3:52:04 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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