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Top GOP pollster(luntz) joins Ron DeSantis in warning that 'abysmally low' turnout in Iowa caucuses is red flag for Republicans in November, saying Trump has 'to get new voters or he loses'
Dailymail ^ | Jan 20, 2024 | Emily Goodin

Posted on 01/20/2024 12:48:06 PM PST by backpacker_c

Top Republican pollster Frank Luntz and Ron DeSantis warned that the low GOP turnout in the Iowa caucuses is a red flag for the party and that if Donald Trump doesn't get 'new voters' then he will lose in the November election.

'Trump is going to have to show that he can get people who didn't vote for him in 2020, he's got to get new voters or he loses,' Luntz told DailyMail.com

'It's a warning sign for the party in November because the turnout was so abysmally low,' the Florida governor said on Friday. 'There's terrible enthusiasm right now.'

Trump's rallies and events are consistently standing room only.

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To: Fledermaus
Yeah, and that ain't all that he is.

NTTAWWT /s

61 posted on 01/20/2024 1:42:20 PM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: Dan in Wichita

Again, people were already there...

They would want to vote for their candidate, if they were there, because Iowa’s delegates are allocated in proportion to the vote.


62 posted on 01/20/2024 1:46:25 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: All

It may be a warning sign for the party.

But the party is fringe anyway. Independents now dominate. No one cares much about the 2 fringe 27% parties.

Independents more and more will hold seats.

And these Swamp filth types will wake up and discover they are now the worst of all things . . . ignored.


63 posted on 01/20/2024 1:49:45 PM PST by Owen (.)
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To: joesbucks
Since it’s a Caucus, discount the win.

We won. You lost. Discount THIS!

64 posted on 01/20/2024 1:53:51 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: backpacker_c

Independents are not moderates. This is Swamp thinking.

Independents do not care about left / right issues. Those are not issues.

The issue is drain the swamp. They are hard core on that issue. About taxes and spending . . . no position. It’s a fringe issue that has no solution at $34T debt.


65 posted on 01/20/2024 1:53:58 PM PST by Owen (.)
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To: nwrep
How does 2024 Iowa turnout compare to 2020 and 2016 caucuses?

In 2016, Republicans set a new record for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters. Though the total made up only about a third of all registered Republicans, turnout at the 2016 caucuses greatly outnumbered the 2012 contest, which had about 122,000 voters. And in 2008, the turnout was similar, with 120,000 voters, making the 2024 Iowa caucuses turnout the lowest in more than a decade.

66 posted on 01/20/2024 1:54:25 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: backpacker_c
The imbeciles are transparently full of crap.

Within hours of the Iowa results being posted, the DeSantis campaign came out with a public statement complaining that the caucus vote was suppressed by the early media call for Trump.

And now they're saying the "low turnout" is an indication of trouble ahead for Trump?

Which is it, you morons?

67 posted on 01/20/2024 1:54:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: backpacker_c

Well……….it’s true. True for all three candidates and the Republican Party. We might nominate a person that can’t win even 70% of the party. Hopefully we will run against Biden and not Michelle. This election season is going to be miserable for this country.


68 posted on 01/20/2024 1:55:23 PM PST by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: Fledermaus

I fail to see the logic of the argument, that the turnout was “abysmally low”, and how that would affect the overwhelming support Trump is getting at every side from the entire spectrum of potential and real voters in primaries elsewhere and in the general election.

Luntz may or may not be an idiot, but he is operating from a bias AGAINST Trump that may be coloring his view of just how many people are drawn to the rock-star popularity of that force of nature known as Donald J. Trump.

Trump just has to build on the 74 million or so votes he got in the 2020 election. The Democrat Socialists are generating a large sympathy vote for Trump with their baseless and clumsy attempts to get an indictment against him before the 2024 election.


69 posted on 01/20/2024 1:56:10 PM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Fledermaus

A caucus is a great measure of enthusiasm and Trump had it…….. with only half of the party.


70 posted on 01/20/2024 1:56:51 PM PST by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: backpacker_c

Luntz is a corrupted, deep-state C###


71 posted on 01/20/2024 1:57:01 PM PST by PGR88
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To: backpacker_c

Do the math.

Trump does not have enough votes to win. He is hated like Hillary was, by the independents.

We shall see in 10 months or so. Hopium will not change reality.


72 posted on 01/20/2024 1:58:15 PM PST by redgolum (We are not going to make it, are we. )
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To: af_vet_1981

Compare Trump’s caucus vote in ‘24 to his caucus vote in ‘16.


73 posted on 01/20/2024 1:58:44 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: backpacker_c

I thought he said Trump was gonna win.


74 posted on 01/20/2024 1:59:12 PM PST by Luke21
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To: backpacker_c

Um - Luntz and DeSantis are aware there was a massive winter snowstorm that day?


75 posted on 01/20/2024 1:59:15 PM PST by Skywise
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To: joesbucks
Turnout also means very little when the result is already known well in advance.

In 2016, Iowa turnout for the GOP caucuses was high because it was a hotly contested race. Ted Cruz won with less than 28% of the popular vote. Three candidates got more than 20% of the vote, and nine candidates came out of Iowa with at least one delegate.

In 2024, I got a sense that there was far more interest in the Iowa caucuses outside Iowa than in the state itself.

76 posted on 01/20/2024 1:59:30 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: backpacker_c
Luntz completely misses the lede of what happened in Iowa.

Assuming there was a lower turnout due to the inclement weather, Trump's voters were the classic "broken glass voter" who was willing to crawl across frigid snow to turn out to vote for their candidate.

If DeSantis didn't do as well, it was because his voters weren't as "broken glass" as Trump's voters were.

-PJ

77 posted on 01/20/2024 1:59:33 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: backpacker_c
FR desantis supporters have been constantly saying Trump needs to change to appeal to independents....

Ridiculous, show one post where any DeSantis supporter said that. If it's as constant as you claim you should easily be able to find at least two examples in just the last few days, actually, but my guess is there are zero (0) and you just made it up.

DeSantis supporters here have been clear, we're formerTrumpers, because he's moved left, and we're still far on the conservative right. As far as independents go, and even liberals, we think he's courting them a lot more than us.

78 posted on 01/20/2024 2:00:11 PM PST by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled.)
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To: jjotto

I can confirm that my caucus had many new faces and I assume they were Trump voters. That said, half of my caucus didn’t support Trump. This is a problem.


79 posted on 01/20/2024 2:00:59 PM PST by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: rdl6989

Below zero real temp.


80 posted on 01/20/2024 2:02:08 PM PST by cornfedcowboy ( )
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