Posted on 03/05/2024 9:42:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Donald Trump is facing 91 criminal charges after being indicted four times. Regardless of what his supporters think about those charges, the wheels of justice are turning and Donald Trump will likely be convicted on several felony charges.
When those convictions come will be critical to the question of whether Trump will take the oath of office from prison and whether he will govern from behind bars.
Since it is a generally accepted legal opinion that a president cannot be prosecuted while in office (although there would likely be challenges to that tradition), if Trump is sworn in without being convicted, it's difficult to see how he could be denied office. All prosecution would be on hold as long as Trump served as president.
But what if Trump is convicted of felonies before Election Day? Or Inauguration Day? There are no constitutional guardrails to guide the country through such an unprecedented scenario.
Trump would be free to appeal any conviction, of course. But there's nothing in the law to prevent vindictive, Trump-hating judges from putting him behind bars while the appeals move forward.
Reason.com's Keith Whittington has developed some scenarios of what might happen if Trump is in prison and wins the election.
If Trump is cooling his heels in the big house when Inauguration Day arrives, he could simply be sworn in as president in his prison cell. The presidential oath can be taken wherever the presidential designate happens to be at the time of his ascension to the office. Nothing says the president cannot be a convict, though the Department of Justice has insisted (when this was a live question under Nixon and Clinton) that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted. Joe Biden will stay out of prison—at least until he moves out .
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I still use a CD ROM version of monopoly.
XP boxes I found cheap on EBay when I was looking for one a couple of years ago.
I paid maybe a hundred dollars for an XP gaming laptop as it was billed.
Still powers and plays.
It does not get any network access. I think the network card is messed up because even a straight cable connection, zero connection.
Imho, to jail a sitting president is treason and constitutes an insurrection.
5.56mm
The way he's governed over the past 3 years tells me that he's not. His mind is failing, and he's being guided by Commies. He may just decided to stay in the WH beyond 1/20/25 while Trump appeals from jail.
Apparently, you are having a bad day. Did you break the rule about posting before the morning coffee fully kicks in? Honestly, I don't believe there is one bit of evidence to suggest that Biden is anything but vindictive.
Ah, yes. Biden refusing to leave the WH
Good to know. But I was merely answering a question posed by coalminersson.
I have “heard” that a president cannot pardon himself for state crimes; however, it is utterly inconceivable that an elected president would be held in jail due to his need to receive classified briefings, and otherwise carry out all the duties of his office. I think the Supes would have to intervene.
I am not a lawyer or constitutional scholar, but I had a similar reaction to that post as you. I would imagine NY or GA would have to release a duly elected president on account of the supremacy clause. Now whether or not the prison term is paused or what happens after the four year presidential term is an interesting debate. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Democrats immediately draft impeachment articles and are able to convince enough senate Republicans to join them to get over the 2/3 hurdle for conviction to send Trump back to a state prison. So hopefully it doesn’t come to that. GA is imploding and the NY Alvin Bragg case is by far the weakest case of all of them so I don’t think it will come to that.
My laptop is 4-years-old and think of it as a more modern "gaming" laptop. It's never billed as such. But it has as much power under the hood as a gaming laptop did 4 years ago, minus the video enhancements. I use it to run a small DB service that I collect both market prices and data from my solar inverters so I can study the results and every now then look for tweaks to improve things on money coming in (investments) or reduce money going out (need the grid less if solar works better for our power habits).
The current GA governor is term limited and the next election is in 2026. I doubt a Republican hopeful would win the primary without pledging to pardon Trump. But if the Democratic wins the office… maybe Trump should schedule a meeting with the head of state of a country without an extradition treaty with the US in January 2029 and not return.
91 bogus indictments later, all that matters is the seriousness of the charges.
New York is also a state case.
I actually did that about a year ago because it’s ancient unsupported XP and if my wife or some visitor wanted to play a round, that would be the one time the network card would function.
“Is NY a criminal or civil trial”
He’s got a couple civil and one criminal. The ones that just concluded are civil. The criminal one is for mischaracterizing business records re: Stormy Daniels.
Trump WILL be tried and convicted by a Manhattan jury composed entirely of far left-wing democrats, who all decided he was guilty before being selected for the jury. Trump will then be sentenced to prison and ordered held without bail pending appeal by a far left-wing democrat hack of a judge. This will be a state court conviction, so Trump will not even be able to pardon himself if re-elected.
This is almost certainly going to happen before the November election. Anyone who thinks that the democrats will not go so far has not been paying attention. They will do anything, ANYTHING, to stop the sheeple from re-electing Orange Man Bad. The majority of voters don’t know what is good for them, so saving democracy requires that they not be allowed to vote for Orange Man Bad.
So, what will any of us be able to do to stop it? If we dare to protest we can expect to spend time in the gulag with the J6 protestors, at least until the next Republican President takes office.
IMHO, we need to start making plans now for when (not if) it happens.
Good point.
To be honest I am not sure about all of the NY lawfare, so I don't think the civil ones are an issue.
Regardless of what his supporters think about those charges, the wheels of justice are turning and Donald Trump will likely be convicted on several felony charges. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
YThayts a load of bull.
Since when does malicious posecution succedssfully jail anyone,, let alone a sitting president.
ANy such conviction would be appealed and the stay of any sentence issued pendiong appeal would be successfull until the expiration of his presidential duties. After four years these malicious prosecutions will be revealed in detail and those responsible will be charged with malicious prosecution and espionage.
If Fani (or her replacement) gets a conviction before 1/20/2025, it would be up to the current governor. Since he seems to have set the stage for Fani by interpreting an innocent remark by Trump as an encouragement to steal Georgia’s electoral votes, I wouldn’t count on him to give Trump a pardon, and he doesn’t have an election to worry about.
But despite all this attention on Trump's plight, what would happen if Biden died before Election Day — and won?
It might be 6-8 months before anyone realized that had happened.
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