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1 posted on 04/10/2024 7:15:17 AM PDT by Twotone
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I’ve played Fallout, and this is a lie.


2 posted on 04/10/2024 7:16:09 AM PDT by struggle
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Newly-declassified documents reveal chilling details of what would happen to DC in the event of a surprise nuclear attack targeting the Pentagon, pictured. It's 27,000 employees would die instantly

A good start?

3 posted on 04/10/2024 7:21:55 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perfection is impossible. But if you pursue perfection...you may achieve excellence.)
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It’s OK as long as the establishment is in charge, Biden gets his 10%, and Lib women can have an abortion whenever they want.


4 posted on 04/10/2024 7:22:56 AM PDT by alternatives? (`)
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Hey…I have a good idea! Let’s overthrow democracies on Russia’s borders, expand NATO, and provoke Russia into a nuclear war!?!


5 posted on 04/10/2024 7:23:38 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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BFL


6 posted on 04/10/2024 7:23:54 AM PDT by Drew68
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What exactly was declassified? Read “On Thermonuclear War” by Herman Kahn if you want the low down from the Bland Corporation.


7 posted on 04/10/2024 7:28:04 AM PDT by Sawdring
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Overkill is a misunderstood expression. It just means “redundancy because of failure.” That is, nuclear missiles are *very* prone to failure.

They blow up in their silo during launch. They fall apart just after leaving their silo. They break up during ascent while under enormous stress. Their guidance fails and they go far off course. Then their warhead fails for one of many reasons. And lots of things disrupt them.

American missiles are the best in the world, but we still have very high overkill. Russia’s overkill is so high that it far exceeds 50% of their launches.

Tactics also matter. Russia makes it a point to target enemy military targets. The US targets cities. Russia also doesn’t maintain their equipment. For example, near the end of the Soviet Union, the US Navy derisively called the Soviet Navy a “naval hazard”, because their ships were in such poor repair.

And nuclear missiles need one hell of a lot of maintenance.


9 posted on 04/10/2024 7:37:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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If the exchange could be contained to just Washington DC and Moscow, that would be a win, win for the world.

Satan’s lair originates at 38°54′17″N 77°00′59″W. Closing the gates of hell and all of it’s demonic democrat inhabitants would usher a new age of renewal. /spit


11 posted on 04/10/2024 7:40:24 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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Well I am not convinced Biden would even launch on alert as I think he and the toads around him would surrender first...


12 posted on 04/10/2024 7:41:12 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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“Newly-declassified documents reveal chilling details of what would happen to DC in the event of a surprise nuclear attack targeting the Pentagon, pictured. It’s 27,000 employees would die instantly”

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But then we’ll never find out what happened to those trillions of dollars that are not accounted for.


14 posted on 04/10/2024 7:45:18 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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Most nukes would be air bursts. Ground bursts are where the fallout comes from.

So, if you survive the detonation and you can protect yourself for a few weeks, your chances of near term survival are OK.

Long term would depend on your location, your resources, and your community.


15 posted on 04/10/2024 7:55:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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I saw how those firemen went in the miniseries Chernoble. Radiation sickness...naaa I would rather have it drop square on my house


16 posted on 04/10/2024 7:59:41 AM PDT by mware
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This is basically an excerpt from Annie Jacobson’s book “Nuclear War, a scenario”.
I made the mistake of listening to it on a long drove recently when I got a free credit on audible.

It’s basically fanfiction emotion driven. There are a few interesting parts here and there, but it’s a highly partisan work. Once as she is discussing the idea of “launch on warning”, she is listing presidents, and literally skips Trump.
The centerpiece of her book is a Nork surprise missile on DC. Never mentions Trump and how his headway was undermined by the swamp even once.
Then the book is filled with absurdities. As she is doing it minute by minute, one was the President evacuated to his helicopter on the lawn, loaded and ready, but they delay takeoff for 3 to 4 minutes **with a nuclear missile inbound**... because his national security advisor is standing by the helo door, talking on the phone to get more facts!

Then the Helo takes off and the president is wearing a parachute harness so he and his secret service detail can bail out if needed. As the missile gets close and they are not outside the area, does the helo find the most protected spot it can and get on the ground? NOOOOO, the help pops up as high as it can, the president does a tandem parachute jump with secret service to escape to the ground!

The entire thing is peppered with interviews and quotes from libtards. William Perry, the Sec Def genius of Blackhawk down is very prominent. It’s a pantheon of leftist experts.

And there are other things. She discussed a US Military conference and meeting around 1960 where the SIOP was created and compared it to the nazi Wansee conference! She said that it was to plan a US first strike on the USSR. Ok, fair enough, Lemay and Powers and Lemnitzer were advocates of that... but Annie drops that bomb and doesn’t discuss it again. Not a single word.

She slanders Reagan and pretends he believed ICBMs from a submarine could be recalled. It’s a massive mis-characterization of his words. He was discussing the concept of nuclear subs adding a deliberative element into our ability to respond, and of the fact that cruise missiles can be aborted. But it’s a chance to slander a conservative.

The entire book is maudlin female fan fiction of a nuclear war. And of course, to hit North Korea back, we send ICBMs to overfly Russia and they mistake it for an attack on them and launch on us.

It’s a clown show.

Then she ends it 24,000 years in the future. She speaks of finding an ancient site like Göbekli Tepe in Turkey, those in the future look at the ruins of America and wonder what happened... as though all language is gone and the details of a nuclear war would not get jotted down by someone in the southern hemisphere.

Oh, by the way, the survivors would be gentle, empathetic and soft, because they spent so much time underground and had to learn how to cooperate.

Not making it up. Don’t waste a penny on it. In fact, it’s bad enough that I would avoid anything else she writes.


17 posted on 04/10/2024 7:59:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Those not killed day one would starve or die from lack of modern medicine in the EMP resultant nightmare world within 90 days. If you want to really scare the bejeebers out of yourself listen to “One Second After”.

https://youtu.be/a5FDHm-igIE?si=A0C_5dCJFNLKt9aQ


20 posted on 04/10/2024 8:12:52 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Had radiation on my arm for weeks on end. The treatments covered from the wrist to the elbow! Arm looked fine until the last 3 sessions when it started to hurt/burn, was red.

Then about a week after treatments stopped, the arm got grotesque looking- blisters, weeping sores, and was quite painful. A year later and I still have a “tan” from the treatments, and skin is splotchy and weird looking.

Cant imagine being radiation burned over the whole body- those who wont be instantly killed will be in for a world of pain if they survive nuke attacks.


22 posted on 04/10/2024 8:20:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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Well; this is stupid.


23 posted on 04/10/2024 8:33:23 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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Goodness, this information has been available since 1945-1956. There are plenty of websites that simulate large yield explosions with high accuracy.


24 posted on 04/10/2024 8:36:12 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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Moron Annie Jacobsen, heat cannot travel at the speed of light.

-fJRoberts-


26 posted on 04/10/2024 8:41:50 AM PDT by A strike (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by 'climate change')
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None of this is new. Its a staged rehash prior to an election much like "The Day After" designed to sway voters away from President Reagan by implying he would start a nuclear war.
27 posted on 04/10/2024 9:01:08 AM PDT by pfflier
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There is no scenario where a first strike will/would be successful.


29 posted on 04/10/2024 9:09:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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