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Seven Pilots Were Among 19 Hijackers (Evidence Terrorist Operation Planned Attacks For 5 Years!)
London Telegraph ^ | September 15, 2001 | Ben Fenton and Toby Helm

Posted on 09/15/2001 7:18:41 PM PDT by t-shirt

Seven pilots were among 19 hijackers

By Ben Fenton and Toby Helm

(Filed: 15/09/2001)

NINETEEN men, including seven trained pilots, were named by the FBI yesterday as being responsible for hijacking the four American airliners to destroy the two World Trade Centre towers and damage the Pentagon.

Mohamed Atta: tower crash pilot

To prevent the trail of 52 people they want to question about the attacks from going cold, the FBI circulated their names to airlines and the operators of railway lines and marine passenger vessels.

John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, said: "It's pretty clear that there were probably others involved in these endeavours and it's our interest to track those individuals down."

Evidence emerged that the terrorist operation that killed thousands in New York and Washington had been planned for at least five years and that for six months the hijackers had been investigating Logan airport in Boston, where two of the planes took off.

At least five of the 10 hijackers had been travelling under Saudi documents or came from Saudi Arabia to gain entry to America and flight-training schools in Florida. Saudi citizens are not required to get FBI clearance to obtain flight training in America.

The 19 hijackers were Marwan Al Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Al Shehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Al Ghamdi on United Airlines Flight 175 which destroyed the World Trade Centre; Waleed M Al Shehri, Wail Al Shehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami on American Airlines Flight 11, which also destroyed the World Trade Centre; Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed on the Pentagon; and Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi on United Airlines Flight 93 which crashed in Pennsylvania.

Of the 19 names, at least two-thirds had surnames associated with the south-west corner of Saudi Arabia or Yemen, which is where the bin Laden family originates.

America remained on its highest state of alert, with fighter aircraft still circling the skies over seven of its major cities and FBI agents on duty at all major airports.

The Secret Service, responsible for the security of America's senior leaders, kept Vice-President Dick Cheney away from President George W Bush, a precaution only usually taken in time of war.

He was at the presidential retreat of Camp David as the president attended a prayer service in the National Cathedral in Washington, 70 miles away.Seven pilots were among 19 hijackers

Meanwhile, police in Belgium and Holland arrested a total of six Islamic extremists yesterday as forces across Europe, helped by FBI units on special European duty, combed the Continent in the hunt for terrorists linked to Tuesday's attacks.

In Germany, police and teams of FBI officers were concentrating on Hamburg where three hijackers in Tuesday's suicide attacks were running a cell dedicated to the "spectacular destruction" of key American buildings.

Mohamed Atta, 33, from the United Arab Emirates, who took the controls of the first plane that hit the World Trade Centre, was part of the Hamburg cell.

In Brussels, Belgian police arrested two Islamic extremists and seized weapons including machine pistols. The arrests followed tip-offs from the Belgian state security service that one of those arrested may have been preparing attacks on American targets in Europe.

Dutch police said they had arrested four Muslim radicals on Thursday in the port of Rotterdam. Across the US, there was continued evidence of edginess, with 12 people detained at airports around New York late on Thursday.

They were reported to be armed Arabs, some of whom had certificates from Florida flight training schools and had been originally booked on transAmerican flights on Tuesday. But these reports proved to be untrue.

Only one person was detained for any length of time, on suspicion of proffering a fake pilot's identity card. Two people were detained on a cruise ship in Miami but authorities refused to say if their detention was linked to Tuesday's atrocities.

An Iranian being held in prison in Hanover, Germany, warned the White House last week that a terror attack big enough to threaten the world order would be launched on America within days, the German federal prosecutor's office said.

The man, who was awaiting deportation, made a total of 14 calls to the American authorities in the days immediately before the attack. He specified that the attack would come this week.

But the Iranian was not taken seriously by the FBI or German authorities because his warnings were considered too vague.

TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; cia; fbi; wtc
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1 posted on 09/15/2001 7:18:41 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
The government knew who was behind it this operation to bring terror to America. (And They---FBI knew bin Laden was one of those behind the last World Trade Center Bombing that the FBI allowed to happen by refusing to allow their paid infomant explosives expert to replace the real explosives with fake explosives.)

So why was bin Laden (and who ever else) allowed to operate all this terror training/planning groups throughout the USA and worldwide?

Why did the FBI and CIA, State Department not work with others countries to shut them down overseeas?

2 posted on 09/15/2001 7:26:14 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
Evidence emerged that the terrorist operation that killed thousands in New York and Washington had been planned for at least five years

Any liberal lapdog suck up socialist Klintoon loving lerkers...Pay attention here...morons

3 posted on 09/15/2001 7:29:53 PM PDT by oneway
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To: t-shirt
There are seven of them that we know about, because of their having been trained in the U.S. This doesn't mean that the others weren't trained elsewhere, or under assumed names here that we have not uncovered.

The latest reports are that 4 of the 5 terrorists on one plane were pilots. There were also other posts about a flight instructor (in Afghanistan?) who said he was "forced" to train 14 flight students there.

It would not surprise me if all or at least 4 on each of the terrorist flights were pilots of one ilk or another.

4 posted on 09/15/2001 7:30:28 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: t-shirt
Of the 19 names, at least two-thirds had surnames associated with the south-west corner of Saudi Arabia or Yemen, which is where the bin Laden family originates.

PBS showed a fascinating documentary this week about Saudi. Apparently there's plenty of opposition to the Saudi royal family, with many supporters of bin-Laden among the Saudi people. PBS may repeat it or have transcription up at their web site. It's well worth watching. Many CIA agents are interviewed and describe the problems with getting agents into Arabian countries.

5 posted on 09/15/2001 7:33:16 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: Real Cynic
The other thing some Americans need to remember is that PERSISTENCE really DOES count.

These terrorists HAVE been planning this for YEARS. Not like in this country, where some people think if you can't get what you want in 5 minutes -- in the MTV generation of impulse buying -- then, forget it.

Over there, they may not have as many resources as we do, but they have the tenancity we often lack.
6 posted on 09/15/2001 7:34:18 PM PDT by summer
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To: Real Cynic
How did all these pilots get through FBI background checks, with the FBI now admitting they ties to terrorist organizations and bin Laden?
7 posted on 09/15/2001 7:34:20 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
I wonder why seven pilots, and not eight, when there were four planes. You'd think two pilots per plane would make sense, so that the plot on each plane could survive the death or incapacitation of one pilot. I kind of suspect the real number is eight, and the authorities are not yet aware of the qualification of the eighth pilot.
8 posted on 09/15/2001 7:34:36 PM PDT by aristeides (
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To: t-shirt
To find pilots in your neighborhood, visit: It has names and addresses of most certified pilots in the US. I looked up my zip code: Many of the "questionable" pilots came into the states in the past few years. There are many. Enuff said.
9 posted on 09/15/2001 7:35:05 PM PDT by nagdt
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To: t-shirt
"Saudi citizens are not required to get FBI clearance to obtain flight training in America."
And what IDIOT made up THIS stupid rule??????
10 posted on 09/15/2001 7:35:32 PM PDT by summer
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To: t-shirt
So why was bin Laden (and who ever else) allowed to operate all this terror training/planning groups throughout the USA and worldwide?

Gee, the incompetence, the corruption, and the treason, of the Klinton Administration couldn't have something to do with it, now could it?? LOL

11 posted on 09/15/2001 7:36:42 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth
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To: Real Cynic
We will be fighting an enemy who comes from a a variety of countries, including the United States. A good first start will be to revoke visas and demand all non-citizen Muslims leave the country (some will need exit interviews before departing). Make it a felony to harbor any who don't leave.
12 posted on 09/15/2001 7:40:46 PM PDT by umgud
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To: t-shirt
Saudi citizens are not required to get FBI clearance to obtain flight training in America.

I wonder who made THAT rule?

13 posted on 09/15/2001 7:41:07 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: oneway incindiary DoughtyOne Jethro Tull jeremiah Mercuria RLK freedom007 archy Uncle Bill rdavis84
All my Related threads on the terror attacks
(Most have multiple stories on each):

CIA Reportedly Warned FBI About One Suspect (6 Stories of Prior Knowledge By FBI & Government)

FBI 'Ignored Leads'

Iranian Man in Germany Warned of Attack (WasAllowed to Ring WhiteHouse &CIA,Wasn't TakenSerious)

U.S. Gets Promise of Pakistani Cooperation

How the World Trade Center Fell (Deadly Mistakes Made "I Would Have Given Order To Get Out!"Expert)

Ashcroft: 18 Hijackers Involved in Attack (How Could So Many CarryOut Plot Undetected?ClintonHelp?)

(5)Suspects Caught Crashes on Camera (They Watched Crashes & Celebrated, Also Some Suspects Abroad)

FBI Looks at bin Laden's Strong Ties to Boston (Why Didn't They Look & Act Before?!!)

48 Iraqi & MidEasterns Caugh At Tightened Mexican Border Following U.S. Terrorist Attacks!

ABC NEWS REPORTS 12 Plane HighJackers/Suspects Identified (Dead) & Arrest Warrants Issued For Others

Already Weak Airlines Stand to Lose Billions

FBI Seizes 911 Tape (He Heard Some Sort of Explosion, Was It Shot Down Before Reaching Camp David?)

B-25&767 Hit WTC,3 Planes Hit Pentagon, Bomb Near WhiteHouse,PittsBHit,Who Coordinated?,10000Die
(This thread has over 50 different news stories on it.)

Breaking: US Congress Subpoena Orders Ashcroft To Release Clinton Evidence on Sept. 11, 2001

14 posted on 09/15/2001 7:42:12 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: summer & ALL
You know the FBI had to know these guys were all involved in terror groups, just by comparing their names in interpol, and NCIC.

From what I understand the FBI and other government compare airport employee, airline employee, and contractor employee databases with NCIC and Interpol.

A friend of mine worked at Hert Rental at the airport told me that checks were done often comparing the databases including his company. And he had to do FBI background even though he never worked in the lugguage or onboard any planes.

The FBI knew about these guys and ignored it. Who ordered it?

16 posted on 09/15/2001 7:50:29 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: aristeides
I wonder why seven pilots, and not eight, when there were four planes.

Possibly the eigth was the guy detained on an immigration charge in Minnesota.

18 posted on 09/15/2001 7:53:01 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: t-shirt
So why was bin Laden (and who ever else) allowed to operate all this terror training/planning groups throughout the USA and worldwide?

Probably because the FBI thought the greatest threat to the U.S. was "right-wing extremists and militia groups." That's what a top FBI official said a few years ago in a TV interview. I was stunned when I heard it. It is sickening now to think how their resources have been misdirected over the years.

19 posted on 09/15/2001 7:56:38 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: t-shirt

t-shirt, I don't know the answers to your questions -- and, if I did, I wouldn't discuss it or post it anyway.

You post interesting articles, but you should really read the editorial written by Jim Robinson at the above URL if you haven't already.


summer :)
20 posted on 09/15/2001 8:03:38 PM PDT by summer
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To: BigBobber
So why was bin Laden (and who ever else) allowed to operate all this terror training/planning groups throughout the USA and worldwide?

Probably because the FBI thought the greatest threat to the U.S. was "right-wing extremists and militia groups." That's what a top FBI official said a few years ago in a TV interview. I was stunned when I heard it. It is sickening now to think how their resources have been misdirected over the years.

19 Posted on 09/15/2001 19:56:38 PDT by BigBobber

Correct BigBooper, you and me are the dangerous enemy of Big repressive government, and the real terrorists are the friends of government because they help it become more powerful, more repressive and bigger, more totalitarian government. And the terrorist help pursuade the people to give up their freedoms and rights for (False) security.

21 posted on 09/15/2001 8:05:54 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: aristeides
"I kind of suspect the real number is eight, and the authorities are not yet aware of the qualification of the eighth pilot."

It is probably more than that. Four of the five hi-jackers on AA #11 were identified as pilots, leaving only a single pilot for each of the other three planes.

22 posted on 09/15/2001 8:08:37 PM PDT by okie01
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To: BigBobber
"Probably because the FBI thought the greatest threat to the U.S. was "right-wing extremists and militia groups." That's what a top FBI official said a few years ago in a TV interview. I was stunned when I heard it. It is sickening now to think how their resources have been misdirected over the years."

I remember that interview and had the same reaction as you.

23 posted on 09/15/2001 8:13:09 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: summer
What I was saying on post 16 is that the FBI knew these guys were terrorists and let them roam the country free.

How does discovering the truth and exposing it to others offend you?

If what happened here is not exposed to as many people as possible and action is not taken to prevent it in the future, many more terror attacks will occur.

Are you willing to put your country ahead of your party or whatever you are concerned about?

---No one here--especially me-- is giving out military secrets if that is what you are infering.

24 posted on 09/15/2001 8:13:42 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
I'm not inferring anything; I suggested you read his essay.
25 posted on 09/15/2001 8:16:10 PM PDT by summer
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To: okie01
For all we know they may have had 3 or four pilots on each and numerous terrorist on each flight to help do the muscle work.

Numerous other men on each plane would explain why they able to complete their missions without having guns.

It still wouldn't explain why the fighter jets were not able to catch up to them and shoot them down.

The fighters must not have been sent until it was too late.

26 posted on 09/15/2001 8:19:11 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: summer
What are you offended by?

Are you offended that I am posting so many stories that clearly suggest/show prior knowledge of the serious threat of these attacks to occur and lack of action by the FBI, CIA and US government to stop them from happening.

27 posted on 09/15/2001 8:23:37 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: umgud
At least two of the terrorists were US citizens.
28 posted on 09/15/2001 8:25:30 PM PDT by WhatHappenedtoAmerica
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To: t-shirt
t-shirt, I never said I was offended.
29 posted on 09/15/2001 8:26:00 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Keep in mind I have posted 16 threads related to these attacks, none of which have been pulled or deleted, and all of which are based on publicly reported news stories, except two---which are based on an actual Congressional Subpoena.

On those threads I have posted probably over 75 news stories.

In the interest of helping protect our nation's national security and preserving our freedoms and rights these stories must be exposed and discussed, so that action can be taken to stop these terrorist acts from being allowed to re-occur.

30 posted on 09/15/2001 8:46:40 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
t-shirt, I like reading your articles. All I was doing was answering a question you posed to me, and suggesting you read an article -- just like you suggest I always read your articles. I don't know why you got so offended. I still think you SHOULD read Jim's editorial! :)
31 posted on 09/15/2001 9:15:20 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
I already read the article nearly a half hour ago.
32 posted on 09/15/2001 9:28:14 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
Great! I wish you had told me that when I first mentioned it to you! :)
33 posted on 09/15/2001 9:31:06 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
If you wish to say something just come out and say it. If you wish me banned for posting prior knowledge and corrution stories just say so to me upfront.

Don't keep telling me to read something to taunt me.

Did you want Arator banned?

Are you satisfied that he is? Rejoicing?

Do you want me banned?

Will it make you happy?

I have never been a coward or one to be easily intimidated into keeping quiet about corruption. I'm not about to start now--I love America, it's form of government, and all the freedoms and rights that God has given us here way too much to much for that.

34 posted on 09/15/2001 9:43:58 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: archy Patriot76 Uncle Bill
Full text of President Bush's remarks

Macon Telegraph


Sunday, September 16, 2001

Remarks by President Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Attorney General John Ashcroft at Camp David on Saturday, as transcribed by the White House. The president also answered questions from the press.

Bush: I've asked the highest levels of our government to come to discuss the current tragedy that has so deeply affected our nation. Our country mourns for the loss of life and for those whose lives have been so deeply affected by this despicable act of terror.

I am going to describe to our leadership what I saw: the wreckage of New York City, the signs of the first battle of war.

We're going to meet and deliberate and discuss - but there's no question about it, this act will not stand; we will find those who did it; we will smoke them out of their holes; we will get them running and we'll bring them to justice. We will not only deal with those who dare attack America, we will deal with those who harbor them and feed them and house them.

Make no mistake about it: underneath our tears is the strong determination of America to win this war. And we will win it.

I'm going to ask the Secretary of State to say a few things, and then the Attorney General.

Powell: Thank you, Mr. President. I might just say that I'm very pleased with the response we've been getting from the international community. I think every civilized nation in the world recognizes that this was an assault not just against the United States, but against civilization.

We should also take note, it's not just Americans who lost lives in the World Trade Center - dozens of countries lost lives and they realize that this was an attack against them, as well.

We are receiving expressions of support from around the world - and not just rhetorical support, but real support for whatever may lay ahead in this campaign that is ahead of us to win the war that the President has spoken of.

I might especially want to thank the President and the people of Pakistan for the support that they have offered and their willingness to assist us in whatever might be required in that part of the world as we determine who those perpetrators are. It's a coalition that will stay intact, that will be built upon over time. And what we have to do is not just go after these perpetrators, and those who gave them haven, but the whole curse of terrorism that is upon the face of the earth. And this is a campaign that we have begun this week and we will stick with it until we are successful.

Bush: Attorney General.

Ashcroft: Four days ago we began an investigative effort to understand not only those who perpetrate this heinous assault against America and free people everywhere, but to develop an understanding of those who are associated with it and how it was conducted.

The FBI, together with very cooperative local and state officials and law enforcement agencies has processed thousands of leads. We are making the kinds of contacts and developing the information that allow us to describe this as proceeding with reasonable success. We believe that the picture is developing a kind of clarity that's appropriate. We have named 19 individuals that we have high levels of confidence were the hijackers. And we are further refining our understanding of the ways in which this terrible crime was developed.

I might add that we have put in place very serious measures that we believe will provide greater security and provide a basis for our country returning to the kind of freedom and business and conduct that is characteristic of this great nation.

Question: Sir, what do you say to Americans who are worried that the longer it takes to retaliate, the more chance the perpetrators have to escape and hide and just escape justice?

Bush: They will try to hide, they will try to avoid the United States and our allies - but we're not going to let them. They run to the hills; they find holes to get in. And we will do whatever it takes to smoke them out and get them running, and we'll get them.

Listen, this is a great nation; we're a kind people. None of us could have envisioned the barbaric acts of these terrorists. But they have stirred up the might of the American people, and we're going to get them, no matter what it takes.

In my radio address today I explained to the American people that this effort may require patience. But we're going to -

Question: How long -

Bush: As long as it takes. And it's not just one person. We're talking about those who fed them, those who house them, those who harbor terrorists will be held accountable for this action.

Question: Sir, are you satisfied that Osama bin Laden is at least a kingpin of this operation?

Bush: There is no question he is what we would call a prime suspect. And if he thinks he can hide and run from the United States and our allies, he will be sorely mistaken.

Question: Mr. President, do you have a message for the reservists that you called up yesterday? Can you tell us whether you think more may have to be called up?

Bush: The message is for everybody who wears the uniform: get ready. The United States will do what it takes to win this war. And I ask patience of the American people. There is no question in my mind we'll have the resolve - I witnessed it yesterday on the construction site. Behind the sadness and the exhaustion, there is a desire by the American people to not seek only revenge, but to win a war against barbaric behavior, people that hate freedom and hate what we stand for.

And this is an administration that is going to dedicate ourselves to winning that war.

Question: What did Pakistan say it would do to help the United States?

Powell: We put before the Pakistani government a specific list of things that we would like cooperation on, and they've agreed to all those items. I'm not prepared to announce today what those specific items are. But the Pakistani government was very forthcoming and we're appreciative.

Question: Mr. President, what kind of military options are you considering, if you could talk broadly?

Bush: This is an administration that will not talk about how we gather intelligence, how we know what we're going to do, nor what our plans are. When we move, we will communicate with you in an appropriate manner.

We're at war. There has been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists, and we will respond accordingly. And I appreciate very much the American people understanding that. As we plan, as we put our strategy into action, we will let you know when we think it's appropriate - not only to protect the lives of our servicemen and women, but to make sure our coalition has had proper time to be noticed, as well. But we're going to act.

Question: What is the risk of additional attacks on us at this point?

Bush: I would think the American people need to be - go about their business on Monday, but with a heightened sense of awareness that a group of barbarians have declared war on the American people.

Question: Sir, how much of a sacrifice are ordinary Americans going to have to be expected to make in their daily lives, in their daily routines?

Bush: Our hope, of course, is that they make no sacrifice whatsoever. We would like to see life return to normal in America. But these people have declared war on us and we will do whatever it takes to make sure that we're safe internally. So, therefore, people may not be able to board flights as quickly. Our borders are tighter than they've ever been before. We're taken a variety of measures to make sure that the American people are safe, just as the Attorney General spoke about.

But we hope, obviously, that the measures we take will allow the American economy to continue on. I urge people to go to their businesses on Monday. I understand major league baseball is going to start playing again. It is important for America to get on about its life. But our government will be on full alert and we'll be tracing every lead, every potential to make sure that the American people are safe.

Question: How long do you envision -

Bush: The definition is whatever it takes.

35 posted on 09/15/2001 9:52:02 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
I did not read your entire post. If your desire to yell at me is the real reason you keep flagging me on your threads, then, obviously I can not respond to your threads anymore. Have a great day!
36 posted on 09/15/2001 9:54:47 PM PDT by summer
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To: t-shirt
Boeing manuals, martial arts books, maps in hijacker's room


Posted: September 15, 2001 05:24 PM

MIAMI (AP) -- Boeing 757 manuals, three illustrated martial arts books and an 8-inch stack of East Coast flight maps were found by a motel owner cleaning out the room vacated by a hijacker two days before he flew into the World Trade Center.

Marwan Al-Shehhi and another Arab man spent a week at the Panther Motel in Deerfield Beach, and they had a constant visitor. But owner Richard Surma said Saturday he didn't recognize the other two from four photographs offered by the FBI.

Of the 19 hijackers, at least 15 have Florida ties, and seven of them were believed to be pilots. Al-Shehhi, who trained at two Florida flight schools, was aboard the United Boeing 767 that crashed into the south tower Tuesday.

Surma kept many of the items from Al-Shehhi's room and called over a sheriff's deputy Wednesday when officers began scouring the oceanfront strip of small motels 12 miles north of Fort Lauderdale. The FBI quickly followed and spent day and night interviewing guests and lifting fingerprints from Al-Shehhi's room through Friday.

Black fingerprint dust covers virtually every surface, making it look as "if you had a fire inside and a lot of soot everywhere," Surma said. He planned to clean it until a network TV crew rented the room as is.

Al-Shehhi checked out last Sunday without taking a three-ring binder full of handwritten notes, an English-German dictionary, an airplane fuel tester, a protractor, tote bag, aircraft manuals, maps and books, Surma said.

"Nice maps, but they were too complicated for me," he said. "They were aeronautical maps. I'm sure it was almost half of the eastern United States."

"I wanted to keep them all but my wife didn't want me to," Surma said. He put some of the material in the garbage, which was collected before investigators arrived. The FBI took everything that Surma kept from the hijacker's room.

Fingerprint technicians paid special attention to the frames on tropical-themed velvet paintings of dancing women. Surma found the pictures face down on the floor.

"Such puny guys, but they were pretty smart I guess that they could do so much damage," he said.

Hundreds of FBI agents are rebuilding the history of the hijackers from a paper trail of flight school records; house, apartment and hotel rental records; credit card receipts and interviews with pilots, landlords, neighbors and bartenders.

Investigators were pursuing about 1,000 leads in Florida, said FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela in Miami.

Seven men, including three on the United jet that crashed in Pennsylvania, used addresses in Delray Beach, about 20 miles south of West Palm Beach. The fourth hijacker killed in Pennsylvania stayed at a motel in Lauderdale By The Sea.

Four of the American Airlines Flight 11 hijackers stayed in the South Florida community of Hollywood, and the fifth listed a Boynton Beach hotel on his driver's license.

The FBI had searched the Vero Beach rental homes of two Saudi Arabian Airlines pilots who recently moved out: Abdul Rahman al-Omari, whose name is similar to one of the hijacker's, and Amer Khanfar. The FBI had issued a bulletin for Khanfar, while al-Omari had a similar name to another hijacker, Abdulaziz al-Omari.

Reached by telephone, staff at the airline's offices in the Saudi city of Jiddah said Abdul Rahman al-Omari was in the building but refused to talk to the press. A Saudi newspaper editor said he spoke earlier to both men, and they were surprised their names came up in the investigation.

Meanwhile, members of Florida's congressional delegation in Washington wanted to get home but, like other Americans, couldn't book commercial flights as air traffic slowly returned to normal. They flew instead Saturday on a Florida Air National Guard plane making stops in Jacksonville, Orlando and the Miami suburb of Opa-locka.

U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., had her arms around her teen-age daughters at the Opa-locka airport when she said the hijackers' extensive Florida links were "unbelievable."

Thousands of Floridians arranged their weekend activities around memorial and church services in remembrance of nearly 5,000 people feared dead.

In Tallahassee, people planned to link hands in a candlelight vigil Sunday evening around the 12-acre Lake Ella in a show of unity.

The Key West Poker Run, an annual motorcycle gathering that carries riders the length of the Florida Keys, promised to donate all registration fees Sunday to disaster relief efforts. An estimated 16,000 motorcyclists were expected.

37 posted on 09/15/2001 9:55:01 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: summer
No one yelled at you, I was honest and to the point, and I asked you some simple questions.

Why not just be honest and to the point back to me, and answer the questions?

38 posted on 09/15/2001 9:58:55 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: ALL & freedom007
September 15, 2001

U.S. fears attacks by 'sleepers'

By Jerry Seper


Security measures tightened nationwide yesterday to prevent "sleeper agents" from mounting new terrorist attacks, as the Justice Department identified the 19 hijackers who slammed three jetliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Tuesday in hellish attacks that killed thousands.

With as many as 100 suspected accomplices still on the loose, increased security measures were visible yesterday throughout the country, particularly in the nation's capital. Buildings continue to be searched and evacuated. Suspicious persons have been pulled off planes in New York and ordered out of cars at gunpoint in the District.

Federal authorities noted that several of the hijackers, all with suspected ties to U.S. officials' prime suspect in the attacks -- international fugitive Osama bin Laden -- had been in this country for years, living in relative obscurity before carrying out their mission of devastation. There are concerns that they were part of a network of "sleeper agents" who can be called on at any time.

U.S. intelligence officials believe the 44-year-old bin Laden, who founded and funds the terrorist organization al-Qaeda, has more than 3,000 operatives in 34 countries.

President Bush was heavily escorted yesterday by U.S. Secret Service agents to the National Cathedral for a prayer service, three agents sitting directly behind him in a church full of military and political figures. Military jets later accompanied Air Force One to New York, where the president met with rescue workers at the World Trade Center site.

Several airports have reopened, but Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport remained closed because of security concerns. A number of major cities have beefed up police security patrols, particularly in the wake of information developed by the FBI from interviews that Atlanta -- a major air transportation hub -- also may have been a target of the hijackers.

Last night, federal authorities made the first arrest in the worldwide investigation of the terrorist attacks, a government official said.

The suspect is believed to have information highly relevant to the investigation and is a high flight risk, said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity. The Justice Department said the warrant identified the suspect as a material witness.

None of the hijackers, who perished after steering the fuel-gorged jetliners into their targets, was identified by his country of origin, but all had Middle Eastern names.

Justice Department officials, in releasing the names of the 19 air pirates, also distributed yesterday to 18,000 law enforcement agencies a list of more than 100 persons whom authorities want to question concerning Tuesday's attacks.

"These are the names of individuals the FBI would like to talk to because we believe they may have information that might be helpful to the investigation," Attorney General John Ashcroft told reporters at a briefing.

More than 4,000 FBI agents have questioned hundreds of people and tracked down more than 36,000 investigative leads as the ongoing probe -- known as "Pentbomb" -- spread throughout the United States. There have been no arrests in connection with Tuesday's attacks.

Seven of the hijackers were licensed pilots, and several received flight training in this country. A dozen of them were listed as having lived in Florida, including six in Delray Beach. Three were said to have lived in California, and two hijackers with the same last name were listed as having lived in Fort Lee, N.J. -- Nawaq Alhamzi and Salem Alhamzi.

The 19 hijackers accused of hijacking the four planes involved in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon attacks were:

* Marwan Al-Shehhi, 23; Fayez Ahmed; Mohald Alshehri; Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi, who were flying on United Airlines Flight 175, which destroyed the south tower of the World Trade Center.

* Waleed Alshehri, 25; Wail Alshehri, 28; Mohamed Atta, 33; Abdulaziz Alomari, 38; and Satam Al Suqami, 25, who were aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which destroyed the north tower of the World Trade Center.

* Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour, who were on American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon

* Ahmed Alhaznawi, 20, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi, 40, who were on United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania.

Mohamed Atta is believed to have been at the controls of American Airlines Flight 11, which took off from Logan International Airport in Boston and crashed into the World Trade Center's north tower at 8:45 a.m. Listing addresses in Hollywood and Coral Springs, Fla., he is believed to have taken flight training at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Fla.

Marwan Al-Shehhi also is believed to have received flight training at Huffman Aviation and at SimCenter Inc. in Opa-Locka, Fla. He was aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center's south tower at 9:05 a.m. Authorities believe he may have been at the controls of the huge jetliner when it crashed.

Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi have been named by German authorities as members of an Islamic fundamentalist group that planned attacks on U.S. targets. German police have said the two men were from the United Arab Emirates.

Waleed Alshehri lived in Daytona Beach, Fla., and obtained a Social Security card in 1994. He also had a Florida driver's license, which expired in January, and a commercial pilot's license -- rated for both single and multi-engine aircraft. Authorities suspect he may have been the backup to Mohamed Atta on board American Airlines Flight 11.

Hani Hanjour received his commercial pilot's license in 1999, according to Federal Aviation Administration records, and was aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon at 9:39 a.m. He is believed to have lived in Phoenix and San Diego, but he listed a post office box in Saudi Arabia as his address.

Abdulaziz Alomari lived in Vero Beach, Fla., with his wife and four children in a $1,400-a-month town house. He was rated as a private pilot and flight engineer, listing his address as Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, according to FAA records. He was aboard American Airlines Flight 11 and was employed by Saudi Flight Ops, which handles maintenance for Saudi Airlines at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.

Wail Alshehri is said to have lived in Hollywood, Fla., and Newton, Mass.

Ziad Jarrahi, who was on board United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pa., at 10:10 a.m. is believed to have had a pilot's license from Hamburg, Germany, according to FAA records.

Previously, Justice Department officials, including Attorney General John Ashcroft, said there were 18 known hijackers on the four planes. A new name was added Thursday after it was learned that there were five -- not four -- hijackers on American Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon.

The FBI asked that anyone who has any information about the hijackers call 866/483-5137.

Meanwhile, nine travelers of Middle Eastern descent who were detained Thursday by police and FBI agents at two New York airports were cleared of any connection with the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. One man remained in custody while authorities checked his credentials, which included what police said was a fake pilot's license.

The FBI's massive manhunt for those who provided logistical support for the hijackers, including credit cards, cash, lodging and transportation, continued yesterday throughout the country. A force of 4,000 agents is conducting numerous interviews, serving more than 30 search warrants and hundreds of subpoenas in several states and checking what Mr. Ashcroft has called "thousands of thousands of leads."

Agents have seized hundreds of pieces of evidence, including computers and what FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III described as "other documentary information that we are following up on."

In Minnesota, the possibility emerged that the FBI knew before Tuesday's attack of at least one Arab man seeking the type of flight training the hijackers received. Authorities confirmed yesterday that the FBI detained an Arab man in Minnesota a few weeks ago after he tried to seek flight simulator training for a large jetliner.

Those who hijacked the four airliners for Tuesday's attacks are believed to have received similar training.

Authorities said FBI officials in Minnesota had no reason to charge the man at the time and instead began deportation proceedings. Those proceedings were ongoing when the attacks took place Tuesday. He is being held but is not cooperating with the FBI.

Elsewhere, U.S. and Philippine authorities searched a Manila hotel in connection with the investigation. Philippine officials also questioned a Saudi Airlines pilot and refused entry to nine Malaysian men suspected of having undergone terrorist training.

39 posted on 09/15/2001 10:02:47 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt

The following is a list of the nineteen (19) individuals who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001, into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania. Information listed for each hijacker differs, but may include date of birth, address provided, or visa status. This is the extent of the information available at this time.

The FBI requests that anyone who may have information about these individuals-even though they are presumed to be dead- to immediately contact an FBI filed office or call the toll-free hotline at 1-866-483-5137.

American Airlines #77
Boeing 757
8:10 am departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles
9:39 am crashed into the Pentagon

1) Khalid Al-Midhar - Possible residence (s) : San Diego, California and New York, New York; Visa Status: B-1 Visa, but B-2 Visa had expired.

2) Majed Moqed - No information available.

3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, California.

4) Salem Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey, and Wayne, New Jersey.

5) Hani Hanjour - Possible residence (s) : Phoenix, Arizona and San Diego, California. Believed to be a pilot.

American Airlines #11
Boeing 767
7:45 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
8:45 am crashed into North Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Satam Al Suqami - Date of birth used: June 28, 1976; Last known address: United Arab Emirates.

2) Waleed M. Alshehri - Dates of birth used: September 13, 1974/January 1, 1976/ March 3, 1976/ July 8, 1977/ December 20, 1978/ May 11, 1979/ November 5, 1979; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Orlando, Florida/ Daytona Beach, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

3) Wail Alshehri - Date of birth used: July 31, 1973; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida, and Newton, Massachusetts; Believed to be a pilot.

4) Mohamed Atta - Date of birth used: September 1, 1968; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Coral Springs, Florida/ Hamburg, Germany; Believed to be a pilot.

5) Abdulaziz Alomari -
Date of birth used: December 24, 1972 and May 28, 1979; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

United Airlines #175
Boeing 767
7:58 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
9:05 am crashed into South Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Marwan Al-Shehhi - Date of birth used: May 9, 1978; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Visa Status: B-2 Visa; Believed to be a pilot.

2) Fayez Ahmed - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Hamza Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

5) Mohald Alshehri - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

United Airlines #93
Boeing 757
8:01 am departed Newark, New Jersey, for San Francisco
10:10 am crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania

1) Saeed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

2) Ahmed Alhaznawi - Date of birth used: October 11, 1980; Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alnami - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Ziad Jarrahi - Believed to be a pilot.


Suddenly, all of our previous arguments seem silly, t-shirt. I'm honored to stand with you and all other FReepers. Here's to a truce among FReepers from all sides of the spectrum until all of these bastards and their supporters, as well as terrorist throughout the world, are brought to justice or brought to the morgue.

40 posted on 09/15/2001 10:03:26 PM PDT by bootyist-monk
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To: bootyist-monk
You insult me by telling me that all my previous posts were silly than you say your honored to stand with me.

Why direct such a nasty insult at me then pretend to be honored to stand with me?

I've spent many hours searching for and posting dozens of stories, and replying them on this act of murderous terror. And then you come along and tell me it was all silly?

You get the respect no one by insulting someone in such a belittling way.

41 posted on 09/15/2001 10:12:34 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: bootyist-monk
You insult me by telling me that all my previous posts were silly than you say your honored to stand with me.

Why direct such a nasty insult at me then pretend to be honored to stand with me?

I've spent many hours searching for and posting dozens of stories, and replying them on this act of murderous terror. And then you come along and tell me it was all silly?

You get the respect of no one by insulting someone in such a belittling way.

42 posted on 09/15/2001 10:14:32 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: Uncle Bill
Published Saturday, September 15, 2001

The CEO of terror: Bin Laden the financier of a broad network

Miami Herald


Osama bin Laden was a 24-year-old scion of a super-rich Saudi Arabian family when the Saudi CIA recruited him in 1979 to fight Soviet invaders in Afghanistan, with weapons provided by the American Central Intelligence Agency.

Today, bin Laden is the world's most wanted terrorist, the CEO of ``Islamic Terror Inc.,'' a loose-knit network of groups with tentacles in Asia, Europe, Africa and the United States -- even South Florida -- dedicated to attacking U.S. targets and moderate Arab governments.

Though he may not directly control the groups, he is widely believed to be the driving force and chief financier of a dozen murderous assaults in the past decade, including Tuesday's devastating attacks. ,P> ``Think of these groups as grapes from the same bunch,'' said an Egyptian counter-terrorism expert. ``They are separate, distinct groups yet all their vital links flow back to one common root: Osama bin Laden.''

Some terrorism experts believe that the U.S. government has demonized bin Laden to the point of turning one in many thousand Islamic radicals into the devil himself, blaming him for any and all terror attacks.

``This isn't the politically correct thing to say while they're digging bodies out of the World Trade Center, but he is just a figurehead for a broad and diverse movement,'' said a U.S. terror expert who asked for anonymity.

But anyway one cuts it, bin Laden has been linked to a wave of attacks since 1993 designed to reestablish a Caliphate, an Islamic concept that harks back to the time when Muslims ruled from India to Spain.

According to the CIA's declassified biography of bin Laden, he was born in 1955 in the port city of Jeddah, the youngest son of an ethnic Yemenite businessman who built the Bin Laden Construction Group into a $5 billion firm based on his friendship and contracts with the Saudi government.

Ironically, the firm built the main base for U.S. Air Force units stationed in Saudi Arabia since the Gulf War, the Prince Sultan Air Force Base in the desert, 50 miles southeast of the Saudi capital of Riyadh.

Bin Laden studied economy and religion at the King Abdul Aziz University but, according to friends quoted in published profiles, he was always critical of his country's ruling Al Saud family, widely accused of corruption and un-Islamic behavior such as drinking alcohol.


What the CIA biography does not mention are published reports that he was recruited in 1979 by Saudi CIA chief Prince Turk Bin Faisal into the Islamic Legion, a group of volunteers from around the Arab world organized by bin Faisal to fight the Soviet troops that invaded Afghanistan that year.

That's how bin Laden came to know thousands of Islamic radicals, and in the mid-1980s founded the Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK), or Services Office, to help channel volunteers from some 50 countries to Afghanistan.

While bin Laden is now praised by admirers as a valiant combat commander, CIA agents who worked with the Afghan rebels at the time have said he was more of a rear-echelon organizer and religious leader.

Although he is often photographed holding an AK-47 assault rifle, a 1999 video clip of bin Laden at a firing range showed him awkwardly aiming and firing his rifle. But sometime in the mid-1980's bin Laden began preaching a broader sort of war -- not just military struggle against the Soviets, but an anything-goes war on moderate Arab governments, Israel and its main backer, America.


Although he bases his call for a Jihad on the Muslim holy book, the Koran, his followers tend to be more politically than religiously radical.

Two of the suspects in Tuesday's attacks drank vodka at a South Florida bar shortly before they embarked on their suicide missions. Muslims prohibit the consumption of alcohol.

``In today's wars, there are no morals,'' he said in a 1998 interview with ABC-TV reporter John Miller in one of his Afghan hideouts.

``The terrorism we practice is of the commendable kind, for it is directed at the tyrants and the aggressors and the enemies of Allah. . . who commit acts of treason against their own country and their own faith,'' he declared.

He broke with MAK co-founder Abdallah Azzam, a Palestinian killed in 1989, in the mid-1980s and in 1988 created al Qaeda, Arabic for the military base, reflecting his vision of a network of far-flung groups tenuously linked to a central coordinating body.

``Senior leaders in the organization are also senior leaders in other Islamic terrorist organizations,'' said the CIA biography, made public after the 1998 bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

Bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia after the Soviet troops left Afghanistan in 1989, but was expelled in 1991 for plotting against the Riyadh government and moved to Sudan, where his family firm has several branches.


That same year, the Saudi government allowed hundreds of thousands of U.S., British, French and other troops into the Arab peninsula to fight Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

Bin Laden thundered against the Al Saud family, calling its members ``whores'' and charging that it had violated Muslim precepts by allowing infidel troops near the cities of Mecca and Medina, Islam's two holiest sites.

``They rip us of our wealth, resources and oil. . . . They kill, murder our brothers. They compromise our honor and our dignity, and dare we utter a single word of protest, we are called terrorists,'' he told ABC.

The real terrorists, he said, are the Israelis and their U.S. backers, who rule over Palestinians and want to weaken Islam everywhere so they can impose Western values on Islamic nations.

Bin Laden soon began forging tight links with radical Islamic groups, especially Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and Al Jihad but also the Lebanese-based Hezbollah and other groups in Algeria, Pakistan, Indonesia and several predominantly Muslim nations in the former Soviet region of Central Asia.

And the attacks began:

1993 -- Veterans of the Afghanistan resistance set off a truck bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center, hoping to topple one 110-story tower onto the other. Six people die.

1994 -- A bomb goes off in a Philippines Airline jetliner, killing one person.,P> 1995 -- A car bomb destroys a Saudi National Guard barracks in Royadh, killing six.

1995 -- Bin Laden and Sudan are accused of complicity in an attempt to assassinate Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak during a trip to neighboring Ethiopia. Sudan expelled bin Laden in May 1996, under intense pressure from Western governments as a result of the plot against Mubarak. Bin Laden returned to Afghanistan, now under the protection of the ruling Taliban.


``He is a good Muslim. Osama is just an ordinary man and he could not have organized'' the New York and Washington attacks, the Taliban's religious leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, said in a nationally broadcast speech Friday.

Bin Laden's move to Afghanistan only emboldened him, allowing him to set up terrorist training camps in rugged hills near the southern city of Jalalabad and host visiting delegations from other terror groups.

And in August of 1996 he issued a public ``Declaration of War'' against America. ``If someone can kill an American soldier, it is better than wasting time on other matters,'' he said the next year.

He sent fighters into Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen and Kosovo -- virtually any place where Muslims were fighting, according to the CIA biography.

And the attacks continued.

1996 -- A suicide truck bomb at a U.S. military barracks in the Saudi city of Dahran kills 19 American soldiers. In early 1998, bin Laden proclaimed a new group, the International Islamic Front for Jihad against the Jews and Crusaders, his terminology for Israel and Western nations that sent troops to fight in the Middle East.

And the attacks grew even more deadly.

1998 -- Suicide bombers blow up the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224, including a dozen Americans.

2000 -- A small boat packed with explosives pulls up next to the USS Cole warship in the Yemeni port of Aden and blows up, killing 17 sailors.

2001 -- Suicide hijackers slam three jetliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. A fourth crashes in Pennsylvania. Some 5,000 people are reported dead or missing.


``America has no shame,'' he told ABC. ``We believe that the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. Nothing could stop you, except perhaps retaliation in kind.''

Asked if he feared the Clinton Administration's decision in 1998 to put a $5 million price on his head following the embassy bombings, bin Laden shrugged it off.

``We as Muslims believe that our years on this earth are finite and predetermined,'' he said. ''If the whole world gets together to kill us before it is our time to go, they will not succeed.''

43 posted on 09/15/2001 10:23:15 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
Truly, no insult was intended.

I was referring to our arguments about Beck. In context of the events of Tuesday, they were "silly" (maybe a bad choice of words on my part). Notice I said "our" arguments, I'm including myself. I was trapped in Texas all week, and had to drive home rather than fly. Gave me a lot of time to think about things. That's also why I didn't know about the number of posts you may have made. I'm just getting around to finally checking back in to FreeRepublic. The ignorance is mine, and I take full responsibility.

My point is that while we may not agree on every point, and were willing to fight for our beliefs on this board, I think we can come together as Americans and stand against a common enemy. Especially now.

Sorry if I didn't make my intentions clear, I'll assume that the fault was mine. Still hopeful that we can come together. No flames or defensiveness on my part. Just my feelings.

44 posted on 09/15/2001 10:26:38 PM PDT by bootyist-monk
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To: brat b jeremiah
Former leader of mosque refuses to speak with FBI


Star-Telegram Staff Writer

NEW YORK - A former Muslim religious leader in Arlington will not agree to talk to the FBI about Tuesday morning's attacks at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, his lawyer said Friday.

The FBI has said it wants to question Moataz al-Hallak, who until last year was head of a mosque operated by the Islamic Association of Arlington, about what he may know about the attacks, in which a commercial airliner was also downed in Pennsylvania early Tuesday.

Al-Hallak's attorney in New York, Stanley Cohen, said his client isn't hiding from authorities but isn't talking to them because he knows nothing that would be useful. Cohen said the FBI only wants to bully al-Hallak because of his Islamic race and religion.

"He's not a fugitive," Cohen said. "But he's not talking to the FBI."

If a subpoena is issued, Cohen said he will advise al-Hallak to talk to a grand jury, an assistant U.S. attorney or some other "reasonable" government investigative agency. He said the FBI, however, has not given a reason for why it wants to talk to his client and that it appears to be on a "fishing expedition."

Cohen added: "They want to sit him down and say, 'What do you know about the world?' It's racist. It's destructive ... and that's why he won't be talking to the FBI."

Al-Hallak was the imam, or spiritual leader, of the Arlington mosque until January 2000, when his contract expired. He moved from Arlington about 11 months ago and is now in the Washington area, where he works at an Islamic school and lives a "quiet, wholesome, religious life," Cohen said.

While at the mosque in Texas, al-Hallak became a friend and spiritual adviser to Wadih el Hage, an Arlington resident who, the FBI said, was a top lieutenant to fugitive terrorist leader Osama bin Laden, the man many believe is behind Tuesday's attacks.

The FBI described al-Hallak as an associate of el Hage during its investigation of two U.S. embassy bombings in Africa, and al-Hallak testified three times before a grand jury, Cohen said.

The FBI's public statement that it wants to talk to al-Hallak about Tuesday's terrorist attacks is a potential "death sentence" for his client because of the unbridled anger felt by Americans and their desire to retaliate, Cohen said.

Attorney General John Ashcroft said Friday that federal authorities want to talk to "more than 100" people about the attacks and that the FBI had devoted 4,000 agents to the investigation.

Staff writer Patrick McGee in Arlington contributed to this report.

Jack Douglas Jr., (817) 390-7700

45 posted on 09/15/2001 10:39:18 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
From listing above: (3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, CA.

This b@stard's telephone number was listed in the San Diego Telephone Directory!

46 posted on 09/15/2001 10:52:46 PM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
Coast Guard detains 2 from cruise ship

By Catherine Wilson

Sept. 14, 2001

MIAMI (AP) The Coast Guard detained two cruise ship passengers Friday as their ship approached port after a four-day trip, and the pair was turned over to immigration and FBI agents.

Law enforcement agencies and Carnival cruise line would not say whether the detentions were tied to Tuesday's terrorist attacks.

Immigration and Naturalization Service agents were questioning the detained people, whose names were not released.

No arrests had been made about three hours after the ship docked, agency spokeswoman Judy Oriheula said. The agency did not initiate the boarding request, she said.

In Daytona Beach, about 240 miles north, a strip club manager interviewed by the FBI said that three men spewed anti-American sentiments in a bar and talked of impending bloodshed the night before terrorists struck New York and Washington.

Coast Guard law officers arrived on Carnival's Fascination ship at 3:15 a.m. EDT, when the 2,050-passenger ship was about 20 miles south of Miami. Carnival's security staff helped the agents detain the pair, Coast Guard spokesmen said.

The two passengers were removed from the ship about a half-hour after it docked at its usual terminal at 6:30 a.m., said Petty Officer Robert Suddarth. They were turned over to the FBI and INS agents.

INS spokesman Rodney Germaine had no comment on the incident, saying the investigation was ongoing. Orihuela said FBI agents were present but not involved in the questioning.

The 2,050-passenger Fascination, one of the cruise line's larger ships, was returning from a four-day trip to Cozumel, Mexico, and Key West. Carnival planned a standard same-day turnaround Friday for a three-day cruise to the Bahamas with a new load of passengers.

The Coast Guard announced Thursday that it planned to have boats escort all cruise ships and tankers in and out of the world's busiest cruise port and maintain a 100-yard security zone around the ships.

Several Coast Guard cutters are patrolling off the mouth of the port as a heightened security measure in response to Tuesday's attacks, he said.

Port Everglades also increased security for cruise ships scheduled to use the Fort Lauderdale port this weekend. INS screening is planned for all passengers.

Federal agents were investigating on several fronts in Florida, searching homes and rental car documents and poring over flight school student records across the state.

John Kap, manager of the Pink Pony and Red Eyed Jack's Sports Bar in Daytona Beach, said three men predicted Tuesday's mayhem to a bartender and a patron.

"They were talking about what a bad place America is. They said 'Wait till tomorrow. America is going to see bloodshed,"' Kap said.

He said he told FBI investigators the men in his bar spent $200 to $300 apiece on lap dances and drinks, paying with credit cards. Kap said he gave the FBI credit card receipts and a business card left by one man and a copy of the Quran that was left at the bar.

While investigators pieced together evidence, two former Florida flight school students were identified by German authorities as terrorists aboard the two planes that smashed into the World Trade Center.

Hamburg investigators said Mohamed Atta, 33, and Marwan Alshehhi, 23, had studied at the Technical University in Hamburg and were from the United Arab Emirates. Both men received pilot training at Huffman Aviation, a flight school in Venice, Fla., where FBI investigators are examining student records.

47 posted on 09/15/2001 11:33:13 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: archy Inspector Harry Callahan
Central Washington a ghostly armed camp:

Military patrols streets: 'It's scary, and I don't feel like this is America'

September 15, 2001

By Claire Soares

National Post Online

Reuters, The Associated Press

William Philpott, Reuters

Washington Police officers guard the security perimeter around the White House yesterday. Authorities have increased the cordon around the President's residence to at least three city blocks in all directions.

WASHINGTON - The White House was turned into a fortress yesterday, with armed police guarding an extended perimeter cordon, helicopters clattering overhead and military vehicles posted at strategic points nearby.

Across Washington, similar precautions were in place, giving the U.S. capital the appearance of a city under siege.

Military vehicles patrolled the streets. Fighter jets ripped across the deserted sky. Bomb-sniffing dogs snuffled around the shrubs by the Supreme Court.

Three days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the area in the heart of Washington around the White House was practically empty of civilians.

Washington police and FBI agents stood guard at intersections around the four-by-seven-block cordon, barring all vehicle access.

"Well, we're at war. That's one of our famous places and we need to protect it," U.S. tourist Al Newman said as he stood at one of the barriers.

The White House is usually tightly guarded, with secret service agents at the gates and tall metal fences. A stretch of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the building has been closed since the deadly 1995 bombing of a federal office building in Oklahoma City.

But the current precautions surpass all that. Guards check pedestrians' identification, allowing through those working at offices within the cordon. Tourists have to content themselves with a distant glimpse of America's most famous house, which usually has a stream of visitors. It was closed to the public yesterday.

Ari Fleischer, a spokesman for George W. Bush, the President, has said there was evidence the White House was one of the targets of the assault in which hijacked airliners crashed into the World Trade Center in New York and into the Pentagon, killing thousands and leaving thousands missing.

Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, who normally works out of an office in the building next to the White House, has moved to the presidential retreat at Camp David, northwest of the capital, as a precaution.

Mr. Bush was working out of the Oval Office yesterday and held a meeting of his Cabinet.

Outside, at least six police on horseback patrolled Lafayette Park, the green expanse in front of the White House, and soldiers in camouflage kept watch on either side of a Humvee military police vehicle.

Exits at two separate subway stations close to the White House were shut for security reasons. Cars ground to a halt on the streets ringing the edge of the cordon.

Police have received scores of reports about bomb threats or suspicious packages since the attacks, said Sergeant Joe Gentile, a police spokesman. Threats caused evacuations on Thursday at the Pentagon, where search-and-rescue workers were labouring to find victims, and at American University's campus in northwest Washington. Later, the Capitol was evacuated as well.

In another false alarm, about 30 law enforcement officers in more than a dozen vehicles converged on the Commerce Department a few blocks from the White House. They encircled a dark station wagon, pulled five men out at gunpoint and made them kneel in the street. After questioning them and examining the car with a bomb-sniffing dog, police released the men. Police had been on the lookout for a similar vehicle and became suspicious when the licence plate did not match the car, said Sergeant K.W. Roden.

The city remained under a state of emergency with Humvees and military police in camouflage stationed on almost every downtown corner. The emergency will remain in effect indefinitely, city officials said.

"I wouldn't want to bring my nephew to visit if there are going to be military police everywhere," said Carlton Sullivan, a street cleaner. "But you know that they are going to have to tighten things up."

The signs of security made some feel safe and unnerved others.

Many office buildings turned away visitors and required identification from workers. Others locked all but a single entrance.

"I can't even get into my own building," said Ann Carter, a secretary for a downtown law firm who had left her identification at home. "It's scary, and I don't feel like this is America."

48 posted on 09/15/2001 11:37:41 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
The remaining terrorists are trying to get out of the US in every manner imaginable. Like turning on the lights and watching the cockroaches run for cover.
49 posted on 09/15/2001 11:41:22 PM PDT by onyx
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To: summer
Saudi Arabia is a U.S ally and no Saudi national ever committed a terrorist act against Americans so there was no reason to require FBI clearance for flight training for them at the time. But now you can be sure that rule will be changed though in hindsight it should been changed earlier. The terrorists took advantage of U.S ties to Saudi Arabia to use it as a loophole to continue their terrorist planning undetected. Sly SOBs those ones.
50 posted on 09/15/2001 11:52:05 PM PDT by goldstategop
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