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I went searching for a trusted, balanced account of Islam, and ended up at the Catholic Encyclopedia online. Thoughts?
1 posted on 09/18/2001 8:13:31 PM PDT by Petronski
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2 posted on 09/18/2001 8:15:05 PM PDT by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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New media mantra: "Islam means peace."
3 posted on 09/18/2001 8:20:56 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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It is hardly necessary here to emphasize the fact that the ethics of Islam are far inferior to those of Judaism and even more inferior to those of the New Testament.

Ouch.

4 posted on 09/18/2001 8:21:23 PM PDT by Petronski
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The pleasures of Paradise will be so overwhelming that God will give to everyone the potentialities of a hundred individuals. To each individuals a large mansion will be assigned, and the very meanest will have at his disposal at least 80,000 servants and seventy-two wives of the girls of Paradise. While eating they will be waited on by 300 attendants, the food being served in dishes of gold, whereof 300 shall be set before him at once, containing each a different kind of food, and an inexhaustible supply of wine and liquors.

They must put this part in the brochures.

5 posted on 09/18/2001 8:23:41 PM PDT by Petronski
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Great religion to base a tyrant, despot, or dictatorship type government on isn't it. The main reason Islam was created was too many Arabs were converting to Christianity, and the leaders needed a puesdo type religion to keep them away from being set free by the gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth (and real freedom) is a tough thing to deal with when you want to keep people enslaved. Islam is the perfect fraud to keep the masses in-line to despots and tyrants. Just another doctrine like Communisium that sounds great on paper but is a disaster in the reality of people's lives.
8 posted on 09/18/2001 8:28:49 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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I went searching for a trusted, balanced account of Islam, and ended up at the Catholic Encyclopedia online. Thoughts?

Yes. Keep searching. You haven't found it.

13 posted on 09/18/2001 8:38:20 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imâm. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the "Infidel". Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.

This article suffers from numerous instances of unfair prejudiced statments against Eastern Orthodox Christians (and perhaps the links to "Luther", etc. will reveal the same against Protestants, but I have not verified that.)

However, in our current situation in the US, the above paragraph says it all. And with respect to persecution of Christians by the muslim Turk (and the Turk's henchmen and successors, the Albanian and "Bosnian" muslims), I only have to ask my Serbian, Greek, and Armenian friends to verify that it is true!!!

14 posted on 09/18/2001 8:38:30 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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I've got a craving for Carvel right now.
17 posted on 09/18/2001 8:45:48 PM PDT by lds23
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I went searching for a trusted, balanced account of Islam, and ended up at the Catholic Encyclopedia online.

You're joking right? I'm sure the Catholic Encyclopedia's view of Islam is as objective and balanced as it's view of Luther, Calvin and Henry VIII. Or the Albigensians or the Monophysites.

21 posted on 09/18/2001 8:50:23 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume X
Copyright © 1911 by Robert Appleton Company

How nice to have a modern perspective.

This website was a Yahoo! daily pick.

27 posted on 09/18/2001 9:01:53 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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Copyright © 1911 by Robert Appleton Company?!?
28 posted on 09/18/2001 9:08:22 PM PDT by The Shootist
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Thank you.

Islam is a false religion.
Allah is a false God who does not exist in reality.
The Koran is a collection of incoherant, discombobulated rantings from that moron Mohammed.
His followers are a bunch of losers who are so bitter at their failure in life that they have no goals other than to strike out at America and the Western world with hatred.
They are miserable.

33 posted on 09/18/2001 9:24:23 PM PDT by Jorge
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From the former Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia...

What is Jihad?

34 posted on 09/18/2001 9:24:57 PM PDT by Texas2step
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It's definately an interesting take on Islam. I do think it important to note just how drastically Islam has changed over the centuries. At a time, Islam was on the forefront of what we know now as western thought. This extends to philosophy, astronomy, mathematics, sciences, arts, you name it. Along with the Byzantine empire, Islam acted as the chief preserver of western knowledge through the dark ages, roughly from the fall of Rome to around the 11th century, when European philosophical though began to blossom again in the early stages of an aristotelean ressurrection.

It is for this reason that arabic language and concepts are extremely pervasive at the root of western thought. Take the stars for example - they have arabic roots in their names (Polaris, Sirius etc). The Arabic world was on the forefront of many sciences from shortly after its creation up into the 1000's.

Islam's philosophical contributions cannot be understated, as it is likely we would not have many of the texts of key western philosophers like Aristotle were it not for Islam. Aristotle was basically assimilated into an extremely scholarly community of Islam where it emerged most notably in the late 900's with Ibn Sina, known as the philosopher Avicenna to the west, and then Ibn Rushd, or the philosopher Averroes as he is know under his western name. Averroes lived from the early 1100's to about 1200 and basically gave Europe neo-aristotelean thought by way of Spain.

But just before him, Islam started to implode on itself into a deep fundamentalist theocracy under which it exists to this day. In a few years, the Islamic world basically went from the forefront of human knowledge and thought to the backwoods of an extreme fundamentalist sect not unlike some of the radical groups that exist today. A key factor was the theologian Algazel, or Al Ghazali in the arabic world, who spread the call for an ultra-orthodox theocratic state in Islam around the later end of the 11th century. Algazel began the movement that is known as Sufism, an Islamic movement that came out the Shiites of Persia (Algazel's home), which is known today as Iran.

So basically, the Islam fundamentalism that is familiar to many today was not always such. The Islamic world has, for better or worse depending on who you ask, undergone a huge turnaround from a culture at one time tied heavily to western post-Rome ideas into a culture of fundamentalist theocracy unique onto itself.

37 posted on 09/18/2001 9:32:15 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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"although false evidence is allowed to hide a Moslem's crime and to save his reputation or life. "

Yikes! This one is wild!!

64 posted on 09/18/2001 10:53:51 PM PDT by Theresa
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Look here .

Cheese.

Big sticks .

67 posted on 09/18/2001 11:07:32 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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Shameless self-bump.
69 posted on 09/19/2001 6:05:49 AM PDT by Petronski
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Despite the grief that one or two others have given you on this post...I GREATLY appreciate your effort.

You are trying to understand the subject and you rightly know that the whole issue is spiritual and its roots are deep in world history.

I read the article with enthusiasm and I would like to know much more.

Can someone answer this question:
In the commentary of my KJV - Scofield study Bible, It says that Islam presents the biggest challenge to Christians because Islam is most like Christianity.

That statement both surprises and confuses me. I would have thought that Christianity was most closely linked to Judaism - the antithesis of Islam.

Wasn't it Abram's effort to fulfill God's promise in his own way the start of the Arab-Israeli conflict? This being God's promise that the descendents of Ishmael would be against the descendents of Isaac.

Thanks for any response.

Russ

71 posted on 09/19/2001 7:20:31 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer
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Thanks for the link to Charles Martel. Now that is one weird read. Sounds straight out of Tolkien. I kinda like Ratbot and Bobo.

Seriously, we hear much about the pleasures awaiting faithful Muslim males, but what happens to Muslim women? Do they turn into houris? Also, why can't they drink wine while alive but can guzzle away in Paradise?

73 posted on 09/19/2001 8:43:01 AM PDT by xJones
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We are told they worship the same God we do, the God of Abraham, I Am, then how come they worship a black rock in Mecca during the Haj and when they pray 5 times a day, they face Mecca and pray to that black rock?

Our God is everywhere and we can pray anytime and anywhere.

And as far as Mohammand, did he not marry a 12 yr. old girl?

77 posted on 06/17/2002 6:28:17 PM PDT by Coleus
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