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Hundreds call for forgiveness, not violence
The Seattle Times ^ | 9/23/01 | Christine Clarridge

Posted on 09/23/2001 11:51:52 PM PDT by ppaul

Crowded into Westlake Plaza yesterday afternoon were hundreds of people: professional protesters, anti-military activists and plenty of regular folks with kids, jobs and mortgages, who wanted to let the world, the city, anyone who would listen, know that they don't want war. They carried placards and signs that said, "One people, one planet" and "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

And they cheered for speakers who called for reason, patience, compassion and forgiveness in the midst of a military buildup sparked by the terrorist attacks.

"Tuesday (Sept. 11) gave us a pile of rubble that was not only of bricks but also of bodies and hopes and dreams," said Gina Aaf, an Afghanistan native and University of Washington student. "There have been many piles just like that throughout history and one more pile isn't going to solve anything."

Ed Mast, a spokesman for the 911 Peace Coalition that helped organize the Alternatives to Violence rally, urged the crowd to be strong of heart.

"We are grieving. We are mourning," he said. "But let's not betray our grieving with more violence. Let's not betray our mourning with more deaths."

Many in the crowd acknowledged that there was an element of futility to their message: Their voices couldn't stop the buildup of arms and forces already under way in the United States and abroad.

But they said it was important for people to know that the war movement, while supported by many, is by no means supported by all.

"It's a very important thing to show that there are people who are opposed," said Ernest Mailhot, a member of the Socialist Workers Party.

"There's been this idea that if you are not backing the war drive, you're not mourning the dead, and that's wrong."

Cori Adler, a professor, writer and mother who brought her 2-year-old daughter, said she hoped the tragedy would inspire the United States to re-examine its role in the world.

"We can't put all our energy into being a superpower and then be surprised when we're viewed as bullies," she said.

Whenever one group attacks another, it's often described as a strategic move.

"Well, now that's happened to us and we know that all that symbolic posturing is really about real bodies, real blood and real lives."

The demonstration, which may have drawn as many as 800 participants, was overwhelmingly peaceful despite a small group of counterprotesters who gathered across the street with signs and flags.

"We're out here to support the U.S. and George Bush," said Crosby Olsen, a student at O'Dea High School. "All these people, if they got what they wanted, this country would no longer be free and they wouldn't be able to stand over there and protest."

Lee Tuimanu'a, a former Marine who served two tours in Vietnam, was driving through town on his Harley when he saw the demonstration and the small group of counterprotesters. He pulled over and took a stand with the smaller group.

An anti-war demonstrator, who didn't want to give his name, approached Tuimanu'a, wanting to know why the ex-Marine picked that side.

"I've earned my citizenship. I have a right to be here. You haven't earned anything," said Tuimanu'a, who was wearing a "Remember New York" T-shirt and a red, white and blue bandana.

After a few more exchanges, he lost patience: "Kid, you're a leech. You have the luxury of being here for free because guys like me made the sacrifice."

(emphasis added)


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To: LadyX
Thanks my friend. Good post, told it like it was.
121 posted on 09/24/2001 6:04:38 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: COB1
BUMP my dear friend.
122 posted on 09/24/2001 6:12:59 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thank you so much for your post. HUGE Thank you my friend.
123 posted on 09/24/2001 6:14:09 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ppaul
Idiots of this nature probably all like the song "Imagine" . If not there's another hippy trash song somewhere that speaks of a wold without wars and differences . I've got to think that they imagine living under British rule, Japan and Germany vieing for controll of the "New World" after taking over everything else, etc, etc, etc .

Hippys are trash to be done away with . We don't have news stories on junkyards and decomposing waste that often, so why watch them ?

Cheese .

124 posted on 09/24/2001 6:27:29 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: ppaul
By standing in the way of our efforts to combat terrorism, these so called "peace-niks" share some of the guilt for this atrocity, and blood is on their hands of the 6,000 Americans killed by the terrorists, whom they protect.

If these people ran our justice department and courts, we would be living in a country over run by criminals.

They are completely out of touch with reality.

125 posted on 09/24/2001 6:42:29 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
If these people ran our justice department and courts, we would be living in a country over run by criminals.

Well, for the past eight years, they pretty much have.
The horror Monday, 9/11/01, was in part the result of that legacy.

126 posted on 09/24/2001 6:45:29 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Thanks for the flag.

I don't expect the "Peace at any Price" crowd will get much traction in the environment we are in now. The terrorists signed their own death warrants on September 11, 2001.

We must help President Bush wage total war on world terrorism and marginalize those misguided souls who chant for "Peace at any Price."

Our biggest challenge will be safe-guarding our God given, Constitutionally protected civil liberties.

127 posted on 09/25/2001 7:20:57 AM PDT by Taxman (fdavis@salestax.org)
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To: Taxman
We must help President Bush wage total war on world terrorism and marginalize those misguided souls who chant for "Peace at any Price." Our biggest challenge will be safe-guarding our God given, Constitutionally protected civil liberties.

Well said. We must also marginalize those misguided souls who chant for "safety and security at any price," who foolishly believe that by stripping law-abiding citizens of Constitutionally protected civil liberties the deeds of evil men can be held in check.


128 posted on 09/25/2001 7:42:48 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Lockean "virtue" at it's finest...well, now my generation seems to have it's chance to relearn history--any polis bound together by nothing but gain and pleasure is weak; fighting spirit is not made of such things.
129 posted on 09/25/2001 8:10:24 AM PDT by Pistias
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To: Vox66
thanks for the input,
and welcome to FreeRepublic...

Vox66 AGITATOR ? since September 16th, 2001
 

131 posted on 09/25/2001 8:23:10 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Vox66
their right of free speech, which is their inalienable right under the Constitution

Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness. The others enumerated are pursuant to the aforementioned, but are not listed as inalienable because they may be held in abeyance when they come into conflict with the real inalienable rights. Brush up on your constitution.

132 posted on 09/25/2001 8:24:09 AM PDT by Pistias
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To: Vox66
The Taliban would kill protesters, but America is a free country

you are still breathing aren't you ??

nuff said...

133 posted on 09/25/2001 8:26:57 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ppaul
Thank you. We must be very, very careful in the coming months. Not all who would do us harm are Moslem extremist "terrorists".
134 posted on 09/25/2001 8:41:24 PM PDT by Taxman (fdavis@salestax.org)
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To: Vox66
The right to criticize dissenters is just as valuable as dissent.
135 posted on 09/25/2001 8:53:11 PM PDT by piasa
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To: ppaul
After we achieve Infinite Justice, then we can forgive, but, never forget.

BTTT

136 posted on 09/25/2001 9:08:12 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: ppaul
The staggering arrogance of their conceited and pretentious calls for 'forgiveness'! These people actually feel as if they have the power to forgive atrocities that were committed against other people! Just like leftists to give someone the shirt off someone else's back.

And I like that high school student who (with more brains and heart than all those commies put together) said, "All these people, if they got what they wanted, this country would no longer be free and they wouldn't be able to stand over there and protest". She probably doesn't even realize how right she was; THAT IS THEIR INTENT!

Cordially,

137 posted on 09/25/2001 9:48:50 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
The staggering arrogance of their conceited and pretentious calls for 'forgiveness'! These people actually feel as if they have the power to forgive atrocities that were committed against other people!

Very well said. I think someone should give a list of names and addresses of the ultra-pacifists to criminals so the criminals can know and rob and mug only those willing to forgive and turn the other cheek. It's only fair because a criminal should know who will enjoy being a victim and won't demand any kind of retribution.

138 posted on 09/25/2001 10:08:43 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Diamond
This is not a good time for our side to be talking about forgiving our enemies. Not because it isn't essential, but because no one can hear the message, and no one's heart is up to delivering that message.

But this is a perfect time for us to be thinking about forgiveness of our own offenses. Now that we know first hand just how hard it is to forgive a treacherous and malicious enemy, we're in a better position to discover a spirit of repentence and decent humility, and a true appreciation of the mercy of God who stands ready to forgive what we've done to Him. I suspect this is the only way we'll ever achieve the extraordinary grace we'll need to forgive what was done to us on September 11.

139 posted on 09/25/2001 10:17:47 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: patriciaruth
Maybe if we're really,really nice to the ones of this violent religion, they'll leave us alone.
140 posted on 09/25/2001 10:29:54 PM PDT by Concentrate
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