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***FYI*** JUST SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT NUCLEAR WAR COULD MEAN
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Posted on 10/05/2001 5:28:17 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: Malachi

I HOPE NEVER TO SEE THIS ON AMERICAN SOIL

61 posted on 10/05/2001 8:20:36 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: PsyOp
Thanks for the encouragement. LOL
62 posted on 10/05/2001 8:24:07 PM PDT by cyberwatcher
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To: cyberwatcher
Anything I can do to help. Just ask.

By the time the Army got through training me on all this stuff, spare me the chem and bio, and hope I die quick when the nukes blow.

Armies have the means of effectively delivering and defending against bio and chemical agents, but terrorists and civilians do not. On the battlefield, it is also reletively easy to identify threats or receive warning of such (in the gulf war everybody spent most of their time in thier MOP suits and had to put their masks on everytime radar picked up a missle or aircraft headed torwards our troops - which was the only way to be sure they would have time to done their masks - trained to do so as they were).

And like I said, I spent 48 hours in a gas mask once. I'd rather just take a deep gulp of Sarin Nerve Gas than go through that pain again. All this Bio/Chem war talk is a bunch of crap.

63 posted on 10/05/2001 8:35:09 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
Well, at least it is nice to know that my friends in the military are safer than me.
64 posted on 10/05/2001 8:38:37 PM PDT by cyberwatcher
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
"TOP SCIENTISTS WARNS OF BIOLOGICLE WAR THREAT"

My God! Now they're putting it in ice cream!

--Boris

65 posted on 10/05/2001 8:39:49 PM PDT by boris
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To: RightWhale
"Being raised in the 50s when nuclear war was a primary concern, and Sputnik was 44 years ago yesterday [ICBMs] and having read On the Shore, and many other novels dealing with the aftermath, I would be beyond worrying. if we get a general nuclear war, it's going to be bad beyond understanding. There may be survivors, but it's going to be a long, long time until earth is a pleasant place again. The danger is great right now, which pleases the OBLs, no doubt."

Did you read "Alas, Babylon"?...Had some good ideas, if you plan ahead.

66 posted on 10/05/2001 8:48:28 PM PDT by loulou
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To: cyberwatcher
You need to read between the lines of my posts - they just think they're safer. Back in the bad old days of the Cold war, Soviet troops used to train in the field with the real thing. They had, so I was told, better protective equipment than we did and trained with it more often. They always managed to kill a fair number of their soldiers in these excercises.

If trained soldiers, in controlled excercises, with the best equipment available can't be garanteed survival, what good is an Army Surplus mask going to do you? None. Unless you are going up against riot police armed with CS or you plan to smoke dope with it.

67 posted on 10/05/2001 8:49:04 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: boris
"BIOLOGICLE".....My God! Now they're putting it in ice cream!"

The dead giveaway is when the Good Humor man is wearing a RAG on his head.

68 posted on 10/05/2001 8:50:45 PM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
JUST SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT NUCLEAR WAR COULD MEAN


We would win.....
69 posted on 10/05/2001 8:52:23 PM PDT by unamused
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To: PsyOp
Come on, what if it's ONE nuke in ONE city. Do you really want to die if you're 35 miles away and just have to get underground for a few days?

One nuke is not the end of the world. Its time to survive.

70 posted on 10/05/2001 8:55:45 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
If only 10% of the 1 billion Muslim people in the 18 Islamic nations are Usama bin Laden fatwa fundamentalists, that's 100 million terrorists (100,000,000).

Yikes, we may be in deep caca.

"Either restore the proper Allah, or get ready for a holy war." - Wiliam F. Buckley Jr., October 2, 2001.

71 posted on 10/05/2001 9:00:23 PM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: PsyOp
I am just ignoring what is between the lines. My best friend's oldest boy just finished boot camp. I have always called him "the son I never had".
72 posted on 10/05/2001 9:03:30 PM PDT by cyberwatcher
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To: PsyOp
The majority of civilians will be outside the initial blast/release zones. It makes little sense for an enemy to devote the focus of their attack on civilians while leaving the military free to come back and eradicate them.

In a major attack, civilians will probably need to be wary of water supplies (as troops and civilians commonly share the same sources) and collateral fallout.

Simple precautions such as wearing a surgical mask/paint mask will filter the generally large 1 to 8 micron biological agents, most aerosols, and the majority of radioactive dust. Boiling water and trapping the steam in a clean rag, then drinking only the water that can be wrung out of the rag can usually suffice for all non-primary target areas, too.

Avoiding dust in the aftermath will aid survival percentages, too.

Of course, none of the above will even approach 100% effectiveness. Those simple steps will reduce casualties, hower.

After that, sanitary conditions, safe food, and avoiding contaminated or roving mobs will be necessary.

But in truth, it is unlikely to ever reach such a point. At least here. I'd have to say that those living in Asia, Persia, Africa, or the Middle-East would have a higher chance of facing full-scale NBC warfare. Not only do those areas have more than their share of hated nutcases out to do each other in, but they also have to deal with the repercussions of pushing either the U.S. or Russia too far.

73 posted on 10/05/2001 9:07:10 PM PDT by Southack
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To: GVNR
I'm just going go out on the patio,get my lawn chair and watch the dam#dest fireworks show I ever saw.
74 posted on 10/05/2001 9:10:35 PM PDT by tbird1
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To: Humidston
Can anyone tell me if those filtration systems on new refrigerators would remove contaminates?

Got some spare rechargeable batteries for your shortwave radio? Might be the only way to get instructions if the power grid collapses; Internet sure won't be there. Got a way to heat a can of Spam and a pan of noodles when the power goes out for a few years? Got a can of Spam to heat? How about a shelter to hunker down in for a couple of years until it's safe to go outdoors? All that Civil Defense preparation in the 50s was for good reason, and that reason never went away. You were there, as was I. Unless somebody is vaporized, they have a responsibility to survive if possible. Refrigerators might be pretty low on the list of important things.

75 posted on 10/05/2001 9:12:26 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: GOPJ
If I'm 35 miles away when it goes off, that is is something entirely different. I will driving at high-speed in the opposite direction or going to ground. Besides, you don't need a gas mask to protect against fallout. And if you do use a mask for it, you better have plenty of extra filters for it so you can change out the contaminated ones. A surgical mask tapes around the edges and a pair aoski goggles are just as effective and a lot cheaper if you need to go to ground for a few days.
76 posted on 10/05/2001 9:13:45 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
Will an EMP knock out the chips in a car so the car can't go?
77 posted on 10/05/2001 9:24:49 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Simultaneous detonations of eight primitive nuclear weapons can EXCEED the destructive capabilities of thermonuclear weapons of the sizes that now predominate. These "small" tactical weapons are far more dangerous than has been publicly acknowledged

Cite:

78 posted on 10/05/2001 9:25:10 PM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: GOPJ
What if it's not a "general nuclear war"?

If it is just one nuclear device, then the survivors will be moving to the communities nearby. Those communities will have a huge problem coping with a flood of refugees. If everybody prepares to some degree now, we'll do a lot better in the aftermath. Even if we are 1/2 a continent away we'll be affected to some degree. If there are 2, it won't be twice as bad, it will be extremely dislocating. If there are 4, or 8, or more . . . We're not talking suitcase nukes, we have to think of the real nukes, the big ones.

79 posted on 10/05/2001 9:28:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
NUCLEAR STATE MAPS AND INFORMATION STATE BY STATE [with intentional communities list]

The maps are eleven years old, and reflect the Soviet Union's projected targeting of the US.
Interesting only as a historical "what-if".

80 posted on 10/05/2001 9:29:44 PM PDT by dbbeebs
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