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Freepers What would you do if........?
Self ^ | October 5, 2001 | B4Ranch

Posted on 10/05/2001 11:02:39 PM PDT by B4Ranch

If you were 53 years old and hadn't worked in 25 years, then your husband died, what would you do.

I have a dear friend whose husband is significantly older than she is. He is 71 and in good health. The cost of life insurance for her husband is more than they can afford. Consequently, he does not have any. Her previous employment was in the fashion industry as a model. She has lifetime healthcare insurance from this employment.

Her income would be 70% of his Social Security, $1200 a month. His retirement payments stop upon his death. This is frightening, isn't it.

Currently, they live in a nice home with nice furniture and own one recently manufactured car.

Her eyesight will not allow her to drive on the Freeways or on heavily trafficked streets. She has a very pleasant, cheerful personality and is well spoken. She would be great as a secretary, except driving to and from work would be dangerous for her.

What type of education should she get to pursue work from her home earning $3000 a month? Is this possible. Do large companies hire employees to work from home. I am thinking of steady work not contract employment.


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Please give serious answers only. All assistance will be much appreciated by these Freepers friends whom I will not identify.
1 posted on 10/05/2001 11:02:39 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Palladin, seeker41, kattracks, WIMom, 1Peter2:16, proud2bRC, super175, goodnesswins, JeanS
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2 posted on 10/05/2001 11:14:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Utah Girl, Rose in RoseBear, Hillary's Lovely Legs, KantianBurke, newsperson999, Ada Coddington,
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3 posted on 10/05/2001 11:19:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
She could maybe get a telemarketing job from home but I think she would need to get an insurance license to make the good money. Another option that some older people are doing is a reverse mortage. They get a set amount per month for their home. If it is worth over 100 grand she might get $1000 per month for 10 years of something like this. Another option is to sell the house after he dies and move in to a small appartment. An option my mother did several years ago when my dad died a week after he retired and his $1600 in social security wasn't close to enough because of a $1200 monthly mortage was to first refinance the mortage for 30 years and bank the profit. The second thing she did was have two brothers move in and pay $800 per month for room and board. She gets by just fine now with the $3200 per month and a $800 mortage. In fact, she racked up over 100,000 air miles this year and has taken about 5 cruises. The old folks now cruises provide all the food and drink thay want for 10 days for about $600 on the senior plan so it's a good deal.
4 posted on 10/05/2001 11:22:03 PM PDT by america-rules
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I don't know what percentage of their mortgage is paid but I know they do not own the home. I was thinking of something where the mortgager provides life insurance that pays the home off if one of the mortgagees dies. Is this expensive at their ages?
5 posted on 10/05/2001 11:25:55 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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6 posted on 10/05/2001 11:33:39 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
She might consider starting a mail-order business from her home. If she has a hobby, she should consider turning it into a (web-based) business.

How poor is her eyesight? Can she handle a computer, or learn how? If so, she can consider working for non-profit organizations, which would let her work from home.

It's been my experience that most businesses don't want to make the non-trivial investment in telecommuting unless you're a minor god. Instead, she might consider doing some kind of transcription work, if her eyesight is good enough for reading.

Thank you for pinging me! I'm flattered!

7 posted on 10/05/2001 11:35:07 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear
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8 posted on 10/05/2001 11:38:20 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Rose in RoseBear
Her eyesight is fine for walking in daylight or in familiar areas. She has no problen with her forward vision, it is things to the side that distract her. Typing and computer use is no problem. She is familiar with home computer programs and would have no problems learning new programs.

You are welcome. Thanks for your response. All options are appreciated.

9 posted on 10/05/2001 11:42:00 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
My grandmother was in a similar situation.

She became a yard/garage/estate sale queen with a 20% rule: She would only buy something that was priced at least 20% below fair market value, and would only sell for at least 20% more than she paid for it. When she passed away 17 years after my grandfather, she had quite a bit of money saved/invested, and lived without financial worry.

12 posted on 10/05/2001 11:47:01 PM PDT by clee1
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Frankly, I think that her first consideration MUST be to get ready to radically downsize her monthly outflow of cash.

This does NOT mean moving into a dump on the wrong side of the tracks, but it might if she does not take action now to get ready.

She should start now to study areas where the cost of living is much lower, and get ready to move into a nice but small house or apartment.

It is going to be much easier at her age to control the outflow of cash, than to replace her husband's inflow.

Good Luck!

13 posted on 10/05/2001 11:49:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: B4Ranch
What type of education should she get to pursue work from her home earning $3000 a month? Is this possible. Do large companies hire employees to work from home. I am thinking of steady work not contract employment.

It seems that this person is likely to have a number of strikes against in her in this slow job market. 1) Large companies generally are reluctant to hire people over 50 years of age, even if they have skills. Right or wrong, they are going to feel the person is not going to have the same interest and drive as a younger person. They also may feel that the individual will be a bigger drain on corporate benefits (health care inititally and retirement later). 2) They are going to be reluctant to hire someone who hasnt worked in 25 years as they may not have even the most basic of job skills such as showing up on time day after day or relating to other people.

Why does she feel she has to work from home? That cuts down on her already poor job prospects. People who are going to be working from home are going to have more entrepreuerial type jobs or perhaps contract work where they are paying for the output and not the hours of production which they can not verify or control.

What happened to their savings? If her husband is in good health and 71, he probably hasnt been retired for more than ten years. Where is his nest egg? If they blew it all in less than ten years, then she should have been out working during that entire period, if not longer. I cant understand her passivity.

14 posted on 10/05/2001 11:50:24 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: B4Ranch
She would be great as a secretary, except driving to and from work would be dangerous for her.

Could she take a bus to and from any job she might get?

15 posted on 10/05/2001 11:52:02 PM PDT by Timesink
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May I say, "Thank you for the Freeper mail", those who have responded.

16 posted on 10/05/2001 11:56:06 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Timesink
This may be difficult but is certainly a possibility. Thank you.
17 posted on 10/05/2001 11:57:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
I'm a CLU, so I can answer a few insurance questions. One way to get cheaper insurance at that age is to buy "decreasing term insurance." That is what so-called mortgage insurance is. There is even a "first to die" policy on both lives. The theory is that both lives together are a lesser risk than just one, and the policy ends when the first one dies.

If you buy insurance, get it from an agent with a CLU, from a company with an A++ Best rating. I asked a Zurich Life agent how he could sell insurance with such a lousy rating. He said, "You must be an agent." I said, "CLU." He gulped.

Some good companies are Northwestern Mutual Life and Colonial Life. Mass Mutual is also good. Avoid the TV pitch policies in general.

To make more money late in life, without undue stress - get trained in computer science. I started 3 years ago and can now make $25-35 an hour. There are many areas. In general women seem to like programming and Oracle (database). It really depends on aptitude and inclinations.

Unix is even better as a fast starter. I believe this is reasonable - take Unix and some related subjects for a year as a part-time student, get a Unix job. Two years of experience at the lower levels will get you bids of $65k as a Unix administrator.

Yes you can make a lot in sales but most people do not last in sales. The drop out rate in insurance sales is about 90%. Count me as one of those. It can be very stressful and draining. But some people are naturals. I think life insurance is now extremely difficult for any beginner. Many veterans are dropping out.

18 posted on 10/06/2001 12:02:15 AM PDT by Chemnitz
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To: B4Ranch
Re the mortgage insurance. Most of them are accidental death and at his age, he probably could not get insurance!

Check on the current interest rates, if they are higher than current rates, refinancing would be good. That could lower her monthly payment. Also, provide enough capital if needed for her new business!

Someone suggested relatives moving in to share the rent. A member of our church died two weeks ago. His widow has a sister who lost her husband earlier this year. They are planning to sell the house of the sister and have her move in with the newest widow. That will give them cash and only one mortgage payment and one home for utilities instead of two.

Besides having each other for company and sharing meals. My Mother had talked about moving in with her younger sister, but they both are in their 80s and need help so they are in retirement homes.

We have a widow lady up the block who rents out rooms to college students. It is a good deal for all of them!

The other thing if she is good with kids would be to provide day care. I think the average cost/kid in this area is at least $125/week and up. Just 6 kids at $125/week would bring in $39,000 /year if done 52 weeks a year. People would probably line up to put their kids in a nice home with only 6 to 8 kids total. If she did 8, she could hire a lot of minimum wage help, like nice ladies in her church wanting some fun money and something to do! I don't know what state these people are in and the day care laws/rules.

19 posted on 10/06/2001 12:02:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: B4Ranch
After years of faithful marriage, and years more visiting my father in a nursing home for hours each day following a series of strokes, my mother had to deal with his passing.

The one difference was that he never "produced" much and she struggled like a saint to raise us kids (babysitting, paper routes, etc.).

Within a year, she was blessed with a new husband (I could never believe it!). She is finally living a happy life, although he is older than her like my father was and I fear she will be alone again soon.

I don't know if I have a point, other than after he passes on, things could end up considerably different than you or her would ever imagine.

20 posted on 10/06/2001 12:03:48 AM PDT by bluefish
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