Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

China Moves Forces into Afghanistan
DEBKA ^ | Oct. 6, 2001 | debka

Posted on 10/07/2001 7:16:11 AM PDT by aaaDOC

China Moves Forces into Afghanistan
6 October:

Before even the launching of the major US military offensive in Afghanistan, long Chinese convoys were carrying armed Chinese Muslim servicemen through northwest China into Afghanistan, according to DEBKAfile's intelligence experts.

They were sent in to fight alongside the ruling Taliban and Osama Bin Laden Al Qaeda.  Their number is estimated roughly between 5000 and 15,000.  Our sources report another three convoys are behind the first 3000, who crossed the frontier Friday, October 5.

They are entering Afghanistan along the ancient Krakoram Road to the Afghan-Pakistani border, through the Kulik Pass of Little Pamir, which is situated in one of the highest and most remote regions of the world.

Beijing is deploying this force in two places:

A.  Whakyir, the Kirgyz tribal encampment near the Little Pamir-Tadjik frontier, opposite the swelling concentration of US and Russian Special Forces and air strength

The Chinese have brought with them Kirgyz fundamentalist militants from the Ferghana Valley of Central Asia, as interpreters.

From Whakyir, the Chinese generals believe, with Bin Laden and the Taliban's tacticians, they will be able to block off the movement of the US-led force from its rallying point in Dzhartygumbez, Tadjikistan, no more than 35 miles from Little Pamir, into the mountains of Hindu Kush.

B.  Jalalabad in north Afghanistan, at the foot of the Hindu Kush range.

DEBKAfile's Chinese sources reveal that, immediately after the terrorist strikes in the United States on September 11, the Chinese intelligence service, MSS, handed in to the defense ministry in Beijing their estimation that the United States would go to war to overthrow the Taliban regime, for the sake of which it would sign a pact with Russia.  The Chinese leadership viewed this eventuality as the most significant shift in the global balance since the 1962 Chinese-Russian feud, with dangerous implications for China world standing and its interests in Central and Southwest Asia.  They decided it must be counteracted.

The only satisfactory outcome of the Bin Laden crisis in Chinese eyes is the redeployment of Japanese-based US troops to the Persian Gulf, when the Kitty Hawk carrier moved the 3rd Marines Division out of Okinawa last week.

Chinese intelligence did not miss the absence of fighters and reconnaissance craft on her decks.  The planes stayed behind, but the very fact that the Kitty Hawk is no longer within operational range of the Straits of Taiwan leaves the disputed island with diminished protection.

Beijing also took note of additional US military movements, including the Army's 10th Mountain Division based at Fort Drum, New York and that of another formerly Pacific-based unit, the 25th Infantry Division, out of Hawaii to the Persian Gulf.

According to DEBKAfile's Far East experts, the removal of substantial US military strength from the Pacific Rim opened the way for Chinese intervention in Afghanistan and its effort to slow down the US-Russian advance.
 


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-100 next last
This article is somewhat scary.

Is there any confirmation of the Chinese activities?

1 posted on 10/07/2001 7:16:11 AM PDT by aaaDOC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: All
This alarmed me until I realized it was from DEBKA.
2 posted on 10/07/2001 7:19:10 AM PDT by American Soldier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
Is there any confirmation of the Chinese activities?

I suspect this is a DEBKA *exclusive*, just like the Iraqi troops in Jordan.

3 posted on 10/07/2001 7:19:40 AM PDT by dighton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC;Dog Gone
Its Debka.....LOL!!
4 posted on 10/07/2001 7:19:48 AM PDT by Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: American Soldier
Where does Debka get their information?
5 posted on 10/07/2001 7:20:07 AM PDT by KevinDavis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
DEBKA is an unreliable source, but I can't imagine the Chinese NOT doing something like this when U.S. soldiers enter a country on their border.
6 posted on 10/07/2001 7:21:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis
Fortune cookies and bathroom stalls?
7 posted on 10/07/2001 7:21:59 AM PDT by In veno, veritas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
The BBC and CNN say China is on OUR side.

Debka says the opposite --and suggest awareness.

No doubt the anti-Debka crowd will appear very soon.

8 posted on 10/07/2001 7:23:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
UHHHH, FOR THOSE OF US in the area over here in SE Asia, the cause for concern is at least as significant. . .

No confirmation from here but keenly interested in any anyone might have.

9 posted on 10/07/2001 7:26:03 AM PDT by Quix
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
A bunch of Chinese officers assembling a force out of China's Muslims to fight for China would be like the U.S. arming Puerto Rican separatist gangs to fight for us.
10 posted on 10/07/2001 7:27:58 AM PDT by American Soldier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: American Soldier
A bunch of Chinese officers assembling a force out of China's Muslims to fight for China would be like the U.S. arming Puerto Rican separatist gangs to fight for us.

Hillary would do it. That's why she had Bill pardon those Puerto Rican terrorists.

11 posted on 10/07/2001 7:34:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
Whakyir, the Kirgyz tribal encampment near the Little Pamir-Tadjik frontier

Whakyir is home to the famous "Whakyir Butt" fighters, equalled in courage only by the more famous Gurkas.

12 posted on 10/07/2001 7:35:49 AM PDT by DallasMike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Chinese don't dare aid any Muslim group in Central Asia.

They have trouble enough controlling their own Muslims in Western China. Any hint of successful Muslim resistance in Central Asia against ANYONE cannot be tolerated.

The Chinese also know that two can play at this game. It would be the easiest thing in the world to get truckloads of Soviet-era weapons into the hands of the boys in Kashgar and Urumchi. Logistically, Western China is as far away from Bejing as it is from Houston.

I think that the Chinese will wisely sit this one out. The alternative is to have all of Central Asia go up in flames.
13 posted on 10/07/2001 7:40:04 AM PDT by horse_doc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
DEBKA makes another laughable allegation. If anyone for some strange reason ever doubted whether DEBKA was a complete fraud, this report should put those doubts to rest.
14 posted on 10/07/2001 8:11:08 AM PDT by beckett
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
crock a' crap. Only chinese fighting there will be some Uigur Chinese alongside theNorthern Alliance.
15 posted on 10/07/2001 8:14:28 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
I'm kinda new here. Can anyone tell me who or what DEBKA may be? Thanks!
16 posted on 10/07/2001 8:14:36 AM PDT by SaveTheChief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diogenesis
The BBC and CNN say China is on OUR side.

But do you trust ANY of these sources? I wouldn't trust ANY media outlet nor anything that China says.

They can turn on you like rabid dog.


17 posted on 10/07/2001 8:16:42 AM PDT by unixfox
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
This is total bunk. China has its own problems with Islamic extreemists and if they get involved, it will be to move AGAINST the Islams, not with them.
18 posted on 10/07/2001 8:16:54 AM PDT by Grig
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SaveTheChief

I'm kinda new here. Can anyone tell me who or what DEBKA may be? Thanks!

It's right here (mark it for yourself) --

DEBKAfile

The rest of the LIARS here about Debka are really anti-semites, because they don't like that the person who is behind this is an Israeli and has "Israeli intelligence connections". Thus, a lot of these "sources" are "raw intelligence sources". This is the kind of stuff that intelligence services are getting "behind the scenes" that the public may not ever hear about.

You'll hear some really nutty anti-semites, here -- even saying that this site is run by "teenagers" (just "kids"). Their anti-semitism is so rabid that they can't stand anything coming from Israel.

19 posted on 10/07/2001 8:23:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: aaaDOC
bttt
20 posted on 10/07/2001 8:24:15 AM PDT by Don Myers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-100 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson