The Prophecies of St. Malachy

Matt Drudge ^

[Truth666]

... to reflect on this whole story ...
First task : trace the origin of Sheen story.

[Bon mots]

What about Y2K ?

Actually, our calendar is off by about 6 or 7 years, so the real Y2K comes in 3 or 4 more years.

But I'm not worried, I have a very good hat.

[Truth666]

... to reflect on this whole story ...
Second task : ask yourself what is the most important reason to spend time checking this out, or even to believe it.
This is always an important step in getting the truth - here is the most important example of all : cheap trick behind the most devasting lie in the history of mankind

[Starwind]

These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1130, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles. Those who have undertaken to interpret and explain these symbolical prophecies have succeeded in discovering some trait, allusion, point, or similitude in their application to the individual popes, either as to their country, their name, their coat of arms or insignia, their birth-place, their talent or learning, the title of their cardinalate, the dignities which they held etc.

This 'prediction' seems insubtantial if not false (like the 'Bible Codes') in that attributes of the prophetic symbology are experimentally matched against any and all possible attrrubutes of the Pope. Some 'matches' seem extremely remote, ie. stretched if not outright fabricated - e.g. a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses..

It seems, even if St. Malachy's prophecy's were on hand and known, and consciously followed at the time any given Pope were being selected and named, they'd have a difficult time determining what the Pope's name should be to 'conform' to the prophecy.

In short, it doesn't seem prophectic. Certainly not with the relative precision of Biblical Prophecy.

Thoughts?

[Truth666]

... to reflect on this whole story ... Third task : ask yourself in which way this story can be used as part of the tactic "lies to make a script come true" - check the first sentence of this article :
California - Why the results were falsified - Hitlery666

[null and void]

Actually, our calendar is off by about 6 or 7 years, so the real Y2K comes in 3 or 4 more years.

But I'm not worried, I have a very good hat.

IMHO it's off by more than that. The only dates we have Biblical authority for are the death and resurection, clearly the really important date is the resurection. Normal people are born and die, it takes someone special to resurect.

This was in 33 AD, I seem to has misplaced the exact date, but can probably dig it out (eventually).

[GreenHornet]

the prophecies of St Malachy seemed 'far fetched'.

Not so far fetched:

".......and Alou shall be deprived of his glory by the hand of Bartman".

[verity]

hehe!

[Truth666]

valhallasone answered this in this thread two years ago.

[Truth666]

- what part gives more credibility to the story -
Nobody wants to have his say on this ?

[BlueLancer]

"It is pronounced Question Mark... or I don't know..." No, "I don't know" is on third base!

[DannyTN]

"He predicts every name? "

He didn't predict the names in column 2 only the names in column 4. Thus for the 110th pope, he predicted "De labore Solis". He did not know the name "John Paul II". However John Paul II fits the name "De Labore Solis" fairly well.

Notice also that the last line is not numbered which has led to speculation that there may be popes inbetween as well as speculation that Peter the Roman is the same as #111.

[FlatLandBeer]

at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed

How many hills are there in San Francisco, original home of the UN?

[Truth666]

... to reflect on this whole story ... Fourth task : ask yourself who could be interested that people believe this script ...

[Truth666]

... which in my opinion almost everyone reads as the pope coming after JP II will be the last.

[null and void]

One can hope.

[fortunecookie]

I believe Petrus means stone. So the last pope could be an Italian stone cutter or mason. Or the son of one.

Good point. Or perhaps, given his alleged apostate nature, the other kind of Italian 'Mason'...

[irish guard]

mark for reading later

[Truth666]

There is one fact that incredibly almost everyone forgets : John XXIII was in my opinion an apostate - but JP II is the first Pope that claimed openly to be an apostate.

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