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Victory for American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG - Probation Continues
www.JudicialWatch.org ^ | ALOHA RONNIE, Witness

Posted on 10/19/2001 4:52:04 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

.."No matter what happens, I did nothing wrong".. stated American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG just as his Court Hearing before Federal Judge MANUEL "Loose Cannon" REAL was due to commence 1/2 hour late in Los Angeles Federal Courthouse this morning.

...JOHNNY CHUNG had been brought to Court over his 3,000 hrs CHINA-GATE Probation Sentence brought by this Judge, that he has completed over 2,000 hrs of in 2 years, because his new Probation Supervising CAL-TRANS was refusing to assign him the Work that would finish his Probation Sentence. Confusing...? Not where CHINA-GATE and the Democrats in California State Government are concerned.

...Enter Judicial Watch's Judge Monitoring Program Manager and Former Los Angeles Prosecutor STERLING "ERNIE" NORRIS who filed to become JOHNNY's Associate Attorney to literally sit alongside his present Democrat FootSoldier Attorney BRIAN SUN..at JOHNNY's request.

...An understanding came during this Hearing between Att. SUN and the Prosecuting Asst. U.S. Attorney O'BRIEN, yes he of .."Just Call 911, Johnny".. & CHINA-GATE's KingPin JAMES RIADY .."Get out of Jail Free".. Hearing in March of 2001.

...In this understanding JOHNNY was taking responsibility for his part in a "Communications Breakdown" between he and CAL-TRANS. To which Judge REAL stated .."Things will be done my way, not JOHNNY CHUNG's way...!"

...In the end he ordered the Probation Dept to STOP treating Probationer JOHNNY CHUNG in any "Special Way" as it has been doing thru supervising CAL-TRANS' assigning a third party to keep track of JOHNNY's Probrationary hours ..because CAL-TRANS didn't want to. This had put JOHNNY CHUNG in the Middle ...probably by design ..as it stopped him from being assigned the Community Service Work he needed to do in order to finish his 3,000 hrs Probation ..earning him a trip to Los Angeles Federal Court. A Probation which is 7.5 times Federal Probation Guidlines as assigned by Judge REAL.

...A Good Crowd of 30 or 40 people was on hand in Court of JOHNNY's Supporters from his Church -&- YMCA he did Community Service in, his Family, Friends, Talk Radio Listeners -&- Freepers 'goldilucky' -&- 'ALOHA RONNIE' ...to support his and Judicial Watch's Fight for CHUNG's continued Freedom.

...What kind of -Fight for Freedom- was it...?

...Judge REAL's parting shot at JOHNNY CHUNG while granting a continuation of his .."Same Probation as before"..

.."You can't continue doing what you're doing or you are going to Jail, JOHNNY CHUNG"... that's how close.

American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG, in an Era of American Heroes, remains a Free Man this Day.


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To: ALOHA RONNIE

121 posted on 10/21/2001 3:04:11 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny; BeAChooser; miss print; flamefront; RonDog
...Let's see now...

...FRI = HILLARY fails to put JOHNNY CHUNG in Jail

...SAT = HILLARY called our Enemy by NYC Fire/Police

...SUN = Not too bad, I'd say...

122 posted on 10/21/2001 3:46:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Snow Bunny
Thank you, Snow Bunny. Hope to meet you some day! miss print
123 posted on 10/21/2001 4:13:13 PM PDT by miss print
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To: VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE; Landru; Fred Mertz
If you hate arguing with us, then why do it? We are not the enemy. Unfortunately, your logic is out of kilter otherwise you could see the difference between Johnny Chung and Peter Paul. Johnny Chung was never a jilted lover. The only similiarity is that when both came forward with damning info. about Hitlery & Co., they were slammed by branches of the U.S. Gov't. Why, though, didn't the people in charge of campaign finances go after Peter Paul? What Johnny did was small potatoes compared to the amount of money Peter Paul invested into the Clintons. Silly me, I forgot! Hillary said she returned Paul's money!! I guess Hillary's word is good enough for the campaign finances people - so they didn't investigate further. Just like they didn't investigate when that smarmy fat little Cuban gave her a lot of money a few years back. This guy was linked to drugs and all other kinds of misdealings with the Clintons. I think Aloha Ronnie remembers better than I do. I remember seeing the photo of the guy with Hitlery in The New American magazine and hearing about it on Duffy & Co. (KKLA, 99.5FM, Los Angeles, 4-7, M-F). She wasn't investigated then because she "returned the money." My, my. How convenient. Gee whiz, if every bank robber returned the money, I guess the FBI should drop its investigation and/or prosecution, is that right? NOT!

Are campaign finance practices to work for all politicians while turning a blind eye to DemonRats and Hitlery? That is how it appears to work, my advogado/avocado/aguacate/guacamole friend. (So, is advogado an Italian word for attorney? Spanish is abogado. Or is advogado Spanish or Italian for "advocate?" Who/what are you advocating, my friend?)

Back to the point at hand, Johnny has taken his punishment like a man. He has done everything by the book that the judge has told him to do. He has gone above service to country by trying to ferret out Chicoms, put his life in danger, worked with the Long Beach Patriots, etc. Peter Paul hasn't done those things, yet. Who knows, he may never do them. But to try and liken Johnny to John Dean and then switch his likeness to that of Peter Paul, "a jilted lover," so you say, defies logic or the gravity (a little levity) of the situation.

124 posted on 10/21/2001 4:39:31 PM PDT by miss print
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To: VA Advogado
Be, you're the one that put so much faith in Judical Watch's claims regarding the claims Hill made in her affidavit. I simply pulled up the affidavit and showed that not only did it NOT say what you (or JW) said it said, it really says the opposite of what you (or JW) have claimed. Again I emphasize how important the primary source documents are in cutting through the smoke of special interests.

And again I'll point out to you, since you don't seem to be aware of it or are not reading what I wrote, that the affidavit PRECEEDED her secret testimony before Judge Lamberth. It is in her secret testimony where Klayman says she revealed the details regarding Ron Brown's visit to Clinton. And again, I'll point out to you that you haven't provided ONE INSTANCE where Klayman lied or even shaded the truth in a press release related to Chinagate, Filegate or the Brown death. And, no even her affidavit does NOT say the opposite of what I believe Klayman reported Nolanda said in her testimony.

Why are you so committed to discrediting Klayman and Chung while apparently holding Brown in high esteem (remember ... you claimed he was "on top of the world"). I'm not arguing that Chung was a criminal. He was. But at least he did what few of the other criminals in Clinton's mafia did. He came clean. Yet you seem to despise him for that. Either that or you hate Klayman so much that you'll use Chung's criminality as an excuse for slamming Klayman. You can't back up your accusation that what Klayman did vis a vis his mom was an example of poor character. As another poster pointed out, it was actually done to protect her. Now unless you have some source material to dispute that then I think you actually owe Klayman an apology.

Finally, let me ask you, YES OR NO, do you think that Clinton had motive to wish Brown dead? YES or NO, do you deny any of the other items listed in my list of suspicious items related to Brown's death? YES or NO, should Ron Brown's body be exhumed and autopsied by people we can trust?

125 posted on 10/21/2001 4:40:06 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser
Finally, let me ask you, YES OR NO, do you think that Clinton had motive to wish Brown dead? YES or NO, do you deny any of the other items listed in my list of suspicious items related to Brown's death? YES or NO, should Ron Brown's body be exhumed and autopsied by people we can trust?

1 - I think Johnny Chung is a dishonorable person and only 'came clean' because he was busted BIG TIME with his hand in Hillary's pocket. Instead of taking he was stuffing it full of cash to help defeat the things I hold important.

2 - I think all of you that defend Chung and hold him up to be a hero have selective morality which I argue is worse than having no morals at all. Once a thief always a thief.

3 - I don't trust a thing that LK or JW says without independent confirmation.

4 - I do think that Ron Brown may have been murdered and his murder may have been at the hands of the Clinton administration. However I DON'T believe that Brown ever said he was going to rat Clinton out. He was a very loyal democrat and was on top of the world (yes I will use that phrase again) at the time of his death. I, unlike you, have shown first source documents that indicate Brown was working harder than ever to protect Clinton, not rat him out.

5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me.

Now do you all see where *I* am coming from? I agree with you on just about everything except: JW is a very poor source of information and Johnny Chung is a stain on the flag and honor of this country and them men that have and are fighting to defend it.

126 posted on 10/21/2001 5:25:28 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado; BeAChooser; ALOHA RONNIE; johnny chung
You still haven't answered Be's questions YES or NO! Just like a lying lawyer, you twist the words in the wind.

This business about "once a thief, always a thief" doesn't hold water. Many men have been converted, including Chuck Colson, and afterwards done remarkable things for good. A good example would be John Newton. John Newton was a slave runner - one of the worst. Robert Wilberforce, an anti-slavery minister converted Newton. Newton turned from a drunken, swearing, slave-runner to a fighter against slavery. The memorial to Newton's conversion was the hymn he wrote, "Amazing Grace." {"I once was lost, but now am found, 'twas blind but now can see..."}

Don't bother hitting on Johnny Chung anymore until you can prove that he didn't have a change of heart. As far as I'm concerned, you are a liberal posing as a moderate and your arguments hold as much water as a collander.

127 posted on 10/21/2001 6:03:52 PM PDT by miss print
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To: miss print
...For LOVE is the Only Reality...

...and GOD is LOVE.

128 posted on 10/21/2001 6:09:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: miss print
Me too Miss Print.
129 posted on 10/21/2001 6:09:11 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: miss print
Johnny Chung admits his wrong doing. That is not the issue here. He actually exposed what the Clintons were doing to this country. My hats off to Mr. Chung's bravery and integrity. Yes, he did wrong but he could be no worse than that woman Hillary Clinton who has no shame or integrity at all. In fact, she isn't even a lady.
130 posted on 10/21/2001 7:02:54 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"Signed:..A Witness/RIADY's March 19, 2001 China-Gate Plea Agreement Hearing"

And another witness/Riady's March 19, 2001 China-Gate Plea Agreement Hearing

Heard you on Ray Briem this evening. Don't cha' just love they way they knocked ol' bags Hitlery in Madison Square? I think it's just great. And here all this time, the media's been feeding us with the bull about 60% of New Yorkers supporting Hillary. What a joke. And I haven't seen this even on the news!

131 posted on 10/21/2001 7:09:04 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky; miss print
...RICHARD GERE's being BOO'ed... was reported by today's L.A. Times

...HILLARY CLINTON's being BOO'ed... was NOT reported in the same PAUL LIEBERMAN Los Angeles Times Article

...2001 = George Orwell's 1984 for sure....!

132 posted on 10/21/2001 7:25:24 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: goldilucky
...One thing's for sure in this Time for Heroes, right gl...?

...American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG is NOT standing alone.

133 posted on 10/21/2001 7:33:55 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: miss print
...BOO's for HILLARY now being aired on The MATT DRUDGE Report Talk Radio Show...
134 posted on 10/21/2001 7:39:09 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"...2001 = George Orwell's 1984 for sure....!"

Yeah, more like CommieSpeak putting on its very best. Gee ....L.A. Times....just humor us once again won't cha'! No, the L.A. Times is losing money...nobody's buying the bull anymore!

Man did I hear such BOOING from the New Yorkers on Hillary. Right on New York! Kick that @!$%^ out of there!

135 posted on 10/21/2001 7:42:16 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"...One thing's for sure in this Time for Heroes, right gl...?"

You betcha! Johnny Chung isn't standing alone.

136 posted on 10/21/2001 7:46:13 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: BeAChooser; miss print
Finally, let me ask you, YES OR NO, do you think that Clinton had motive to wish Brown dead?

For MP, I will respond by saying no. Clinton thought he was untouchable. They were good friends. Didn't you see Clinton cry at Ron Brown's funeral? :)

137 posted on 10/21/2001 7:49:55 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: miss print
This business about "once a thief, always a thief" doesn't hold water. Many men have been converted, including Chuck Colson, and afterwards done remarkable things for good.

True, but their good deeds were selfless. In other words, you can't call Johnny Chung a saved man because of the deeds he's done that you consider 'good' are the very ones that kept his butt out of a long prison term. You're enabling and covering for a criminal and a very dishonest man MP. Chung has a worse criminal record than Bill Clinton and here you are defending him and calling *ME* a liberal.

I say throw the bum in jail and throw away the key. If it wasn't for this convicted felon, people like John McSHAME wouldn't be given the ammunition to try and take away my first amendment rights. You're on the wrong side of morality here defending this Clinton supporting rat.

138 posted on 10/21/2001 7:54:32 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: goldilucky; ALOHA RONNIE; miss print
LOL Did you hear Drudge crack on Judicial Watch?
139 posted on 10/21/2001 7:57:31 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Yes, in fact I just heard it. I thought it was Larry's voice but I wasn't sure.
140 posted on 10/21/2001 8:00:42 PM PDT by goldilucky
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