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A Contrast Between Mohammed and Christ
George Zeller, Middletown Bible Church ^ | 10/29/01 | RaceBannon

Posted on 10/29/2001 1:34:22 PM PST by RaceBannon

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To: hogwaller
Your observation are correct--as far as I am given to know--but we are now dealing with an Evil of "Old Testament Characteristics," devoid of the subtleties of the New Testament, coarse & Brutal in its evil, unconscious of the value of Human Life (other than Fundamantalist Islamic Human Life), utterly ignorant of Human Worth or Potential.

We are dealing with developmental Adolescents from "Lord of the Flies!"

Too Many Innocents will die if we assume that our "adversaries" have ANY religious principles. We are dealing with deranged, deformed, ignorant souls--'called by BOTH the Old & New Testaments--"EVIL!"

Doc

62 posted on 10/29/2001 6:50:34 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: hogwaller
..."are we any better than them?"

One would HOPE so---!

So, if Creatures from another Star System came to our Planet & decided that by destroying the WTC, the pentagon, & the White House, they could "create an environment" favorable to their "Agenda," should we "Forgive them their Transgressions," & "Treat with them as 'EQUALS??'"

The Taliban--"Al-Quada"--do NOT regard us as "Human Beings." TO THEM, we are "Vermin!"

We are NOT in a "Battle," "Mano-e-Mano..."---we face an "Enemy" which regards us as SubHuman!

THINK ABOUT THIS!

We are NOW in a fight for our VERY EXISTENCE!

We can only HOPE that GOD is "on our side!"

Doc

64 posted on 10/29/2001 7:56:01 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the flag, Sabe. I hope the post doesn't get deleted for "intolerance against the faith of love." Why just today, I saw a long letter in my community newspaper, by a member of a humanitarian group, demanding that Americans embrace all Muslims.
66 posted on 10/29/2001 9:05:17 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
... I saw a long letter in my community newspaper, by a member of a humanitarian group, demanding that Americans embrace all Muslims.

What about Moslems dressed like this palestinian kid?


67 posted on 10/29/2001 9:08:49 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: hogwaller
Even the devil is in God's plan...mohamed falls into that category!!

In the end, JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD WINS!!

NOT some islamic mohammedans!!

ALLELUJA!!!!!

68 posted on 10/30/2001 3:37:02 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: morkfork
BUMP!!! You are so right!!!!!
69 posted on 10/30/2001 3:39:33 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: RaceBannon
How about the contrast between Buddha and Confucius? In a street fight between the two, who would win? I am talking about a no-holds barred street fight without any supernatural stuff allowed. At first glance it appears that Buddha would win since he has more body weight. However, in the final analysis I think that Confucius would be the victor in such a street fight because he knows all those kewl Kung Fu moves.
70 posted on 10/30/2001 3:42:38 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: morkfork
What mortal speaks for the whole of Christendom today? Who is the absolute authority as to what is "Correct" in Christian doctrine or belief?
71 posted on 10/30/2001 3:45:38 AM PST by Patria One
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To: RaceBannon
Messiah is of Isaac - Mohammed is of Ishmael

Genesis 16:11-12
72 posted on 10/30/2001 3:54:06 AM PST by hsszionist
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To: Jack Barbara
I would like to see someone write a contrast between the Christianity of Christ and the Christianity of Saint Paul. It would be equally shocking.

There is no contrast. I have read the New Testament many times, and the Old Testament as well. There is no contrast from Genesis to Revelation. There have been some misinterpretations along the way, but there is no contrast.

Remember one thing when you read the New Testament. Jesus didn't come to teach what the Jews already knew to be correct, He came to correct them where they were wrong. It wasn't a new religion, just a course correction for the worship of G-d by His people.

That and the sacrifice that makes our peace with G-d possible.

Shalom.

73 posted on 10/30/2001 5:03:12 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Jack Barbara
Sounds to me like an argument could be made from this scripture reference that America's war is un-Christian, and that being a good Christian means being PC.

When you read the Bible you need to consider what instruction is given to governments and what instruction is given to individuals. The government has a G-d given responsibility to secure the peaceful life of its people. Individuals have a G-d given responsibility to reach out to other individuals in the name of Jesus. The first verse to which you refer was given to individuals.

As for doing what appears right to everybody (a pretty bad translation), Christians are supposed to be sensitive to others so they should be willing to be PC where such sensitivity actually speaks to the needs and concerns of others. However, much of today's PC isn't about the needs and concerns of others, it's about political power. Christians are to focus on the real, not the artificial.

It is much easier to understand the Bible if you know the author. Do you know Him?

Shalom.

74 posted on 10/30/2001 5:07:22 AM PST by ArGee
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To: RaceBannon; CCWoody; RnMomof7
Mohammed is an antichrist. There are many antichrists, and they will continue to deceive until Christ establishes His kingdom.

Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

75 posted on 10/30/2001 5:13:52 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: hogwaller
Jesus FORGAVE those that killed him. We need to do the same, or many people will perish.

Luke 23:34 Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.

Luke 11:50-51 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.

Which one was the "real Jesus?" Both, of course.

Jesus prayed that G-d would forgive. G-d judges at the end of time. Justice will be met then. G-d will forgive or not forgive as He wills at that time. Nothing that happens to an individual between now and then represents G-d's judgement on that individual.

However, Jesus also knew that the Jews of that time would pay for their hard hearts. Their hearts had become so hard that they couldn't recognize G-d's own Son and Messiah when He was standing right in front of them performing deeds of power the like of which had never been performed before. G-d would punish the nation, but more importantly, the nation's hard hearts would punish themselves. G-d forgave David, but David's kingdom still suffered for his sin with Bat Sheeba. It is always so and it will always be so.

I can pray that G-d will forgive Osama bin Laden.

I can also pray that there won't be enough pieces of him to bring to trial by the time our Marines are finished with him. Both are Biblically reasonable views.

The Bible is easier to understand if you know the author. Do you know Him?

Shalom.

76 posted on 10/30/2001 5:16:22 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Patria One
The Bible and the Bible alone is the measuring stick.
77 posted on 10/30/2001 5:17:10 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: ernest de moniac
Let's take a look at Yahweh:

The Bible is much easier to understand if you know the author. Do you know Him?

Shalom.

78 posted on 10/30/2001 5:17:40 AM PST by ArGee
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To: RnMomof7
Excellent post. Thanks for the bump.
79 posted on 10/30/2001 5:18:45 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Jack Barbara
"I would like to see someone write a contrast between the Christianity of Christ and the Christianity of Saint Paul. It would be equally shocking."

Since you believe in this, why don't you take a stab at it? Of course, this would mean that you would actually have to read the New Testament, an act that would show you just how groundless your claim is!

80 posted on 10/30/2001 5:19:39 AM PST by Jerry_M
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