Posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
Actually, in all the prior threads - I've pointed out that Dr. Malik has been in the U.S. since the 70's or so and is long established here. I seem to recall that he also spoke out strongly against the terrorism.
That being the case, he is probably not a party to the terrorists. However, as head of the Islamic Center of Central NJ and being from Pakistan and having made it as a doctor here ... we wonder if a newcomer to the country living in that area, attending that mosque and wanting to become a doctor ... may have asked him for a job referral or such.
I don't see anything mean-spirited at all about those observations...
Nope. There is nothing libelous there. The doctor wasn't accused of anything remotely defamatory.
At the very worst, it could be read that Malik was the acquaintance of a terrorist. That is not defamatory. Any of us could be an acquaintance of a terrorist and nobody can draw any negative conclusion from that.
I am an acquaintance of Jimmy Carter. Can anyone properly infer anything from that?
In addition, Malik is a "public figure" which pretty much makes him fair game for this sort of stuff, anyhow. But it's not necessary to get into the analysis of what that means because there's no defamation which must be proven first.
BTW, when is truth NOT a defense to a charge of libel?
I think you should say “he might be in the country on a student visa”, since we don’t know that he definitely is a foreigner or that he has a student visa. Maybe it’s just the way you word your sentences that bothers me. You give the impression that we “know” certain things for a fact, when, in reality, we don’t.
a consensus from all kinds of posts by Freepers - to be added to the FBI profile.
The FBI is conducting its investigation based on several different profiles, not just one. The FBI has made it clear that its letter/envelope/handwriting “psychological profile” is based on certain characteristics... in this case, the handwriting and the messages. That “profile” suggests a non-Arab, a non-foreigner American, a science-oriented crackpot.
However, in the meantime, the FBI is searching the homes of foreign Arabs. So, the FBI is not limiting its search to that one single letter/envelope/handwriting profile. That profile is just one that maybe the public can help with, just in case the anthrax was sent by a guy like that.
But your profile narrows the perp down to being a foreign Arab who is in this country on a student visa, and that’s not good, because you don’t know for sure if he is a foreign Arab who is in this country on a student visa. He might be someone who is pretending to be a foreign Arab who is in this country on a student visa.
Do you understand my basic complaint? You have narrowed the guy down too much, but without enough solid clues.
The original ones? I think a man did that. That was a long time ago. That was up around Seattle, wasn’t it?
I'm not sure that Malik would qualify as a public figure (McCain, Bush, the Clintonae, etc., do.) I don't think Malik would care either. (I've been accused of many things on FR, but I figure that's just the way the game is played. I'm not a public figure either.)
I’m thinking more like it was someone (a crackpot) who had access to the Ames strain inside the US and stole some of it in the past, and who waited for an opportunity to use it.
Actually, we’ve got two different conflicting “profiles” working at the same time..... One, a ME guy, and the other, a white disgruntled American crackpot (white, but not necessarily Gentile).
Keep in mind all the anarchist websites and leftist crackpot groups in this country now.
Also, it could be an Arabic ME guy who has been here a long time and who is not happy with his career, someone not directly connected to the 9-11 events. It could even be an anti-Arab who is pretending to be an Arab.
The affirmative statements are meant to convey that the majority view on the threads are thus and so. The conditional words, such as may be or in the alternative ... are used to convey alternative views where there is not an overwhelming consensus from prior posts.
The definition of a solid clue is quite subjective. Again, this is not meant to obtain an indictment or plead a case before a jury ... it is to show the consensus additional profile information based on research done by many contributing Freepers.
I do not see where the FBI profile posted here has any conclusion that the perp is not a foreignor, or an Arab.
I'm sorry I can't find the link but it's been proven that ATCC sold Anthrax to Iraq. It was obstensibly for the use of developing a vaccine but of course we know how that works.
My problem is that the FBI is being less than forthcoming whent they try to create the impression that the bacteria may have come from a source other than the US. And as such the profile is suspect.
Better to be honest and admit that the strain came from here and take the lumps or admit that it came from Russia but of course we can't sell missile defense with the accusation hanging so we pawn the blame off on some nebulous group.
I'm not buying it.
Anal retentiveness I can ignore. Downright udeness to a good friend is something else entirely.
Try this yourself. Take a pen and paper and begin writing from right to left. We have done it and found that as natural left to right writers we automatically follow a radius instead of horizontal line when writing right to left, ending up with a right to left downward slant.
The anthrax letter writer's first language is not one that is written from left to right.
And, Alamo-Girl, as always, exceptional, EX-CEPTIONAL research.
Given the research being done on other recent threads, I'd like to contribute these observations: the perp is concerned about his manly appearance and picked up a pair of 'Bulge' jeans on his last swing through Heathrow. He watched the Victoria's Secret show on ABC tonight, all the while screaming "American women are whores" at his TV while lurking on the Guild's live commentary thread on the show.
He's also trying to build the perfect goat.
I'll keep you updated as my research continues.
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