Message Betrays Panic At Top Of al-Qaeda

The Time (UK) ^ | Daniel McGrory

[Paulus Invictus]

Why in the heck do the TV news media keep having Sandy Berger and that idiot Richardson on as "experts?" These Klintinoids were ineffectual, traitorous and inept. I can hardly stand to see them on air all the time.

[Travis McGee]

Barnacles or not, it's a long way around the bottom of a CVN.

[StealthChild]

What leaders like George Bush and Tony Blair find ironic is that for all their boasts of seeking martydom, al-Qaeda’s leading figures have spared no cost and energy in ensuring that they survive.

Guess Jihad isn't for the mucky-mucks...best to leave the sacrificing up to the Islamabot patsies.

[4CJ]

Blam, you give me far more credit than I deserve, there are many Civil War historians on this forum far better than me. I can probably find quotes from Lee praising every Southern state, but according to most historians his "favorite" was the Texas Brigade headed by Hood. It was made up of Texans and troops from various states. Lee was also fond of Major John Pelham (of Alabama) and his men, who rode in Stuart's Horse Artillery.

I'll look for the reference.

[yarddog]

I am not even an amateur historian. I have always been interested in the WBTS and have read a few books on the subject. I absolutley refuse to do any research since coming to dislike (and distrust even original documents) it while in grad school.

Having established my ignorance of the subject, I want to mention one discussion. I met a group of reinactors from a group in Georgia called the "Appling Grays" They were making a demonstration of a Confederate camp at school. These guys definitely knew their history.

During the conversation, I mentioned that I had ancestors in the First Florida, 18th Alabama, and another Florida outfit called "Laird's Rangers". I told them that I suspected the First Florida may not have seen much action, and was told that to the contrary, they were in nearly every major battle.

One of them told me that Lee considered the First Florida as shock troops. Maybe he was just being generous but would like to know the facts.

[blam]

My sister, who does the geneology for my family, found a record that one of our relatives joined the war effort in Florida and was killed two days later. A young fellow.

[Loopy]

"Texans always move them."

I could easily be wrong, but I thought he said that before or during one of the Little Round Top attacks at Gettysburg.

[4CJ]

First Florida - Infantry or Calvary?

The First Florida Infantry: by company
"A" Leon County (Leon Rifles)
" B " Leon County
" C " Madison County
" D " Alachua County
" E " Jackson County (Jackson Rifles)
" F " Franklin County
" G " Alachua County (Young Guards)
" H " Gadsden County
" I " Jefferson County
" K " Escambia County (Pensacola Guards)

The First Florida Volunteer Infantry fought in every major conflict in which the Confederate Army of Tennesse was engaged.

[4CJ]

My mom has done ours for the past 30 years. I finally caught the bug and am helping - I wanted to preserve her efforts and pass it on to my children as well. My gggrandfather was killed in the Battle of Olustee in 1864, at the age of 27. He left behind 3 children, and 0 slaves.

[Clinton's a rapist]

Remember Bush's smirk when he was asked about executing Karla Faye Tucker? I have no doubt he will see this thing through to the very end. It sucks to be a terrorist right now.

[agave]

"Mulah Omar ostensibly used a cell phone or sattelite phone for his interview with the BBC,why couldn't they track him down?" What makes you think the call WASN'T traced?

[yarddog]

Well you got me to doing some checking. He was from Walton County, signed on in Pensacola in First Florida, but was transferred, apparently with a bunch more to the 6th Florida. He is buried in Broxson Cemetery in Walton Co. This was infantry BTW. My Mother's Grandfather served in 18th Alabama. He had two Brothers killed at Chickamauga. Another Brother died somewhere in Tennessee toward end of war.

[4CJ]

See http://extlab1.entnem.ufl.edu/olustee/1st_FL_history.html for the battles the "First Florida" Infantry participated in.