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The Truth About Islam
Lamb & Lion Ministries Web Page ^ | Dr. David R. Reagan

Posted on 11/19/2001 6:16:00 PM PST by sweetliberty

Ever since the Attack on America on September 11, 2001, we have heard a never-ending chorus of voices from government, academia, and the media assuring us that the Islamic terrorists who attacked the Trade Towers and the Pentagon are not repre­sentative of “true Islam.” We have been likewise assured by spiritual leaders — even some Christian spokesmen — that Islam is a religion of peace, and that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews.

“Our war is not against Islam,” we have been told repeatedly. “Our war is against terrorism.”

Central Questions

Well, what about it?

Are Muslims the spiritual brothers and sisters of Christians and Jews?

Do we all worship the same God?

Are the Islamic holy scriptures, known as the Koran, inspired by God?

Is Islam another path to God by which one can attain eternal life?

Are the Islamic fundamentalists representative of true Islam, or are they a terrible aberration of an otherwise peace-loving religion?

Is our war really a political one against international terrorists, or is it a spiritual battle against a demonic, intolerant, militant, and imperialistic religion known as Islam?

An Historical Perspective on Islam

Let’s begin our consideration of these questions with some historical background.

Muhammad, the man who dictated the Koran and gave birth to Islam, was born in Mecca in the Saudi Arabian peninsula in 570 A.D. His father died before he was born, and his mother died when he was six years old. He was raised first by a grand­father and later by an uncle.

Muhammad was illiterate throughout his life. Until the age of 25 he worked in caravans. During his extensive travels, he encountered many Christians and Jews. Through his conversations with them, he picked up bits and pieces of both Judaism and Christianity.

His life was radically changed at age 25 when he met a wealthy widow 40 years old who fell in love with him. Their marriage enabled Muhammad to live a life of leisure from that point on.

Muhammad’s Call

Fifteen years after his marriage, at age 40, Muhammad had a visitation from a spirit. Supposedly, this spirit told him that he was called of God to be a “prophet” and an “apostle.” It is in­teresting to note that there was no tradition in Arabian religions of either prophets or apostles. These terms were obviously used by Muhammad to appeal to Jews and Christians.

Muhammad continued to have spirit visitations. They would throw him into a trance, and his utterances during the trances were written down by scribes. These ethereal statements became the Koran, but they were not compiled until after Muhammad’s death. When the compilation was made, the utterances were not organized either chronologically or by subject matter. The result was a jumble of disorganized and often incoherent sayings which are frequently contradictory.

For example, the Koran1 gives four conflicting accounts of Muhammad’s call to be a prophet [the word, Sura, means chapter]:

Suras 53 and 81 — God, or Allah as he is called in Arabic, personally appeared to Muhammad.

Suras 16 and 26 — The call was from the Holy Spirit.

Sura 15 — Angels issued the call.

Sura 2 — Gabriel was the one who appeared to him.

Muhammad’s Revelations

At the time Muhammad received his initial visitation, there were over 300 gods being worshiped in Mecca by pilgrims who came there each year to pray at the Ka’aba, a small cubic building that housed a black meteorite and effigies of the various gods. One of those gods was Allah, the moon god.

Muhammad decided to proclaim that there was only one god — and he selected Allah as that god. That’s the reason the crescent moon became the symbol of Islam. Muhammad also proclaimed that he was the prophet of Allah.

Initially, Muhammad expected both Jews and Christians to receive his new revelation. Thus, early passages in the Koran speak admiringly of “the people of the Book.” These are the passages that Muslims in the West love to quote in their effort to prove that Islam is a tolerant religion. An example is Sura 5:82 which says, “You will find that those who are nearest in love to the believers [Muslims] are those who say, ‘We are Christians.’”

Muhammad’s Rejection

But when Jews and Christians rejected Muhammad, he turned fiercely against them, and later passages in the Koran speak of them disparagingly:

Sura 5:51 commands Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as friends.

Sura 9:29 commands Muslims to fight against Jews and Christians until they either submit to Allah or else agree to pay a special tax.

Sura 2:65-66 and Sura 5:60 contain references to Jews as “apes and swine to be despised and rejected.” (Think of that! You can be sure that such a statement did not come from the true God of this universe who selected the Jews to be His Chosen People.) Jews and Christians were not the only ones who rejected Muhammad’s new revelations. The people of his own tribe, the Quraysh, also rejected him. In response, Muhammad succumbed to the temptation to appease his tribe by announcing that it would be okay for them to worship the three daughters of Allah — named Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Ma­nat.

This declaration led to the infamous “Satanic verses” of the Koran which were later deleted when Muhammad reverted back to monotheism. Muslims have tried ever since to cover-up this diversion from the faith. You may remember that in 1989 an Indian writer by the name of Salman Rushdie brought up this taboo topic when he wrote a novel entitled, The Satanic Verses. The Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran condemned him and called for his assassination. A three million dollar bounty was placed on his head, and he has been in hiding ever since.

Muhammad’s Trek

The opposition to Muhammad in his home town of Mecca continued to grow until he was forced to flee 250 miles to Medina where his message was received. The Islamic calendar dates from this year when Muhammad fled to Medina and found a receptive audience, resulting in the formal establishment of Islam as a religion. It was the year 622 A.D., and that date represents year one of the Muslim calendar, which is a lunar calendar. The year 2001 is the year 1422 in the Muslim dating system.

After the death of his wife, Muhammad married at least 11 other women (some sources place the total as high as 16). He also took several concubines. He married one girl who was only six years old and had sexual relations with her when she was 9.2 According to the Koran, only the prophet could have unlimited wives. All other Muslim men are limited to four (Sura 4:3).

Muhammad died on June 8, 632 A.D. in Medina at age 63. He left no successor, and Islam soon broke into warring sects such as the Shiites and the Sunnis.

The Spread of Islam

All of those who survived Muhammad took up the sword, as directed by the Koran, and devoted themselves to advancing Islam through military might. The resulting spread of the religion was phenomenal. Within a century, Islamic forces had conquered Saudi Arabia, the entire Middle East, Central Asia, and large parts of India. The armies raged through Egypt and across North Africa, destroying corrupt Byzantine Christianity in their path.

In 710 A.D.3 the Islamic armies crossed the Straits of Gibral­tar and quickly conquered three-fourths of Spain and Portugal. They then invaded France and took one-third of the nation. They were 125 miles from Paris when they were miraculously defeated at the Battle of Poitiers (also known as the Battle of Tours) in 732 A.D. by a French army led by Charles Martel. Their influence in Spain lived on for a few more centuries before they were slowly driven back to North Africa.

A second powerful attempt to subjugate all of Europe was made 900 years later in the 17th Century when the Turks began to expand their Ottoman Empire. They took Greece, Yugosla­via, Bulgaria, and parts of Romania and Hungary. By 1683 they had reached the gates of Vienna where once again the Western forces won a miraculous victory against overwhelming odds.

Following this second attempt to conquer Europe, Islam fell into a state of depression and stagnation until it was awakened in the 20th Century due to several factors:

The Amassing of Great Wealth — due to the discovery of vast reservoirs of oil in Arab lands.

The Re-establishment of the Nation of Israel — interpreted by Islamic clerics like Khomeini as a judgment of Allah due to Islamic stagnation and apostasy.

The Positioning of U.S. Armed Forces — the placement during the 1990's of American troops throughout the Middle East in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

The Encroachment of Western Culture into the Muslim World — due to the penetration of Western movies, television programs, and consumer goods.

The Cultural Nature of Islam

The encroachment of Western culture cannot be stressed too much. It seems trivial to most Westerners, but that is because of the failure to understand that Islam is a cultural religion that deifies 7th Century Arabian culture.4

Westerners tend to view religion as something intensely personal and private, and not as a cultural phenomenon. For example, Christianity is “supra-cultural” in that it allows people to live, dress and eat in accordance with the culture in which they exist. This is not so with Islam. In Islam there is no “secular realm” that is free of religion. Islam regulates every aspect of life to the point that religion, politics, and culture are inseparable. Islam is thus fueled by a subtle form of racism in which 7th Century Arab culture is to be imposed upon all other cultures.

Here are some examples of the cultural nature of Islam:

Political Structure — The tribalism of 7th Century Arabia is the political structure sanctioned by the Koran. The chief has absolute authority. There is no concept of civil rights. This principle is reflected today in the reality that all Islamic countries are ruled by dictators, and civil liberties, like freedom of speech and religion, do not exist.

Prayer — A Muslim is required to pray five times a day toward Mecca. This is a symbol of the underlying cultural imperialism that lies at the heart of Islam. Think of it — what if all Russian Orthodox throughout the world were required to pray toward Moscow? Or, if all Roman Catholics were required to face Rome when they prayed? What if Evangelical Christians were required to pray toward Jerusalem? Such requirements would imply a cultural attachment to the focal point of prayer.

Pilgrimage — A Muslim is required, despite the hardship and cost, to make a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia once in his lifetime. Again, what if all Christians were required to go to Rome once in their lifetimes?

Dietary Laws — The only foods allowable are those that were acceptable in 7th Century Arabia.

Women — What an illiterate, nomadic tribeswoman wore in the desert in 7th Century Arabia is what is mandated for Muslim women today. The plight of women in Islamic countries today is despicable. They can be kept prisoners in their homes. They cannot appear in public without a covering. They are usually denied the right to vote. They are often denied anything more than a rudimentary education. In strict Islamic countries, women are generally treated as sub-human.5 Sura 4:34 says, “Men are the managers of the affairs of women . . . Those women who are rebellious — admonish them, banish them to their couches, and beat them.”

Punishment — Cruel and unusual punishment is practiced throughout the Islamic world. Incarceration without due process is common. Punishments often include torture, the cutting off of body parts (hands, ears and tongues), the gouging out of eyes, beheading, and public flogging — all representative of 7th Century Arabian culture. The Koran specifically commands that those who disobey Allah are to be tortured (Sura 8:12-14).

Time magazine recently presented a chilling summary of the cultural nature of Islam as it is evidenced in the “moderate” Islamic nation of Saudi Arabia:6

Despite the modernization that took place after the discovery of oil reserves in 1938, Saudi Arabia remains a land where rigid religious and traditional values are strictly enforced. Cinemas and discos are outlawed; men and women are separated in banks, schools, and fast-food restaurants; women must wear veils and are forbidden to drive. Public decency police known as muttawa comb shopping malls searching for women whose loose scarves reveal a curl of hair and forcing store owners to shut during prayer times. Unforgiving Saudi jus­tice is on view after the main prayer every Friday, when a swordsman beheads blindfolded murderers, sorcerers, drug smugglers, and other criminals in Riyadh’s “Chop-chop Square.”

The Spiritual Nature of Islam

Islam is a typical works salvation religion centered around a false god. Its fundamental tenets deny the heart of the Christian Gospel, revealing its demonic origin.

The Koran — As I have already pointed out, the holy book of Islam is riddled with contradictions. Consider, for example, what it says about creation. In one place it asserts that Allah created everything in “the twinkling of an eye” (Sura 54:49-50). Elsewhere it says that the time period of the creation was two days (Sura 41:9, 12); four days (Sura 41:10); six days (Suras 7:54, 10:4, and 32:4); in “a day equaling 1,000 years” (Sura 32:5); and also in “50,000 years” (Sura 70:4). That’s a total of six different time periods!

The Koran contains many scientific errors. A crude example is found in Sura 18:8-86 where it says that Alexander the Great followed the setting of the sun and discovered that it went down into the waters of a muddy spring!

Many Arabian fairy tales about genies are contained in the Koran, and the book is also full of historical errors. It presents Mary the mother of Jesus as the sister of Moses and Aaron (obviously confusing her with their sister, Miriam). The Noahic flood is placed in the time of Moses, and the claim is made that one of Noah’s sons refused to enter the Ark and was drowned.

The Koran also pictures Abraham as offering Ishmael as a sacrifice in Mecca, whereas the biblical account has Abraham offering Isaac on Mt. Moriah in the area that would later become the heart of Jerusalem.

God — The Koran asserts that the god of Islam is the God of Christians and Jews (Sura 29:46). Nothing could be farther from the truth.7

The god of Islam, Allah, is most definitely not the God of the Bible. Allah is presented in the Koran as an autocratic ruler who is aloof and arbitrary (Sura 5:40). Allah is unknow­able whereas the God of the Bible is knowable (2 Timothy 1:12). Allah is impersonal, unlike the personal God the Scriptures reveal (1 Peter 5:6-7). Allah is unitarian (Sura 4:48) whereas the God of the Bible is trinitarian (2 Corinthians 13:14). Here is what the Koran says about the God of the Bible (Sura 4:171): “Believe in Allah and say not ‘Trinity.’ Cease! It is better for you! Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son.”

Allah is capricious (Sura 2:284), whereas the true God is trustworthy. And Allah is never anywhere presented as a god of love — which is the essence of the nature of the true God (1 John 4:7-16).

Jesus — The Koran denies point blank that Jesus was the Son of God (Sura 112:2-3). It also denies His atoning sacrifice by claiming that he never died (Sura 4:157). A substitute died for Him on the Cross. Jesus was translated to Heaven, like Enoch, where He will remain until He returns to kill all pigs, destroy all crosses, and convert the world to Islam. Jesus will marry, reign for 40 years and then die and be buried next to Muhammad in Medina.8 Jesus is characterized in the Koran as nothing more than “an apostle of Allah” (Sura 4:171).

Sin — There is no concept of sin in Islam and therefore no need for forgiveness. Shame replaces sin. Everything is a matter of honor verses dishonor.9 In the Muslim view, man does not need redemption, he only needs some guidance so that he might develop the inherently pure nature with which the Creator has endowed him. If he will be faithful in his prayers, almsgiving and fasting, God is likely to overlook his failures and usher him into Paradise.10

Ethics — The situation determines the appropriate action, not a standard of right and wrong. As an example, Al Ghazzali (1058 - 1111), one of the greatest Muslim theologians, wrote: “Know that a lie is not wrong in itself. If a lie is the only way of obtaining a good result, it is permissible. We must lie when truth leads to unplea­sant results.”11 The Koran sanctions revenge: “If anyone transgresses . . . against you, transgress likewise against him” (Sura 2:194).

Salvation — Islam is a religion of works. One obtains favor with Allah by performing the five pillars of the faith:

Reciting the creed that there is one god, Allah, and his prophet is Muhammad.

Praying five times a day toward Mecca.

Giving alms to the poor. Fasting from sunrise to sunset one month a year during the month of Ramadan.

Making a pilgrimage to Mecca. Another way to reach Paradise is to die fighting for Allah (Sura 3:157).

Islam is so works oriented that it teaches that good deeds cancel bad ones (Sura 11:114). In contrast to all this emphasis on works, the true Word of God teaches that it is impossible to earn salvation because it is a gift of God’s grace that is received through faith in Jesus as Lord and Savior (Ephesians 2:8-10).

Heaven — The Islamic Paradise is a place of sensual pleasure consisting of gluttonous feasts and endless sex orgies (Suras 52:17-24; 55:54-56; and 78:32-34).

The Intolerant and Militant Nature of Islam

One of the most controversial issues regarding Islam concerns whether or not it is a militant religion. Muslims in the West argue it is peace-loving. Westerners who have experienced it in the Muslim world argue it is inherently in­tolerant and militant.

The Koran itself preaches intolerance toward other religions. Sura 5 contains the following command: “Take not Jews and Christians for friends . . . He among you who takes them for friends is one of them . . . Choose not for friends such of those who received the Scripture before you [Jews and Christians] . . But keep your duty to Allah” (verses 51, 55, 57). Extreme intolerance is commanded in Sura 5:33 — “[For those who do not submit to Allah] their punishment is . . . execution or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet, from the opposite sides, or exile from the land.”

The Koran also expresses an intolerant attitude toward any person who decides to reject the Islamic faith or convert to another religion. Such persons are to be executed (Sura 9:12). In the Hadith (the oral tradition of Muhammad’s sayings) it says “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” (Hadith 9:57). These commands are practiced in all Islamic Fundamentalist countries today.

With regard to militancy, the Koran not only condones it, it commands it:

Fighting is prescribed for you, and [some of] you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not (Sura 2:16).

Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war (Sura 9:5).

Fight in the way of Allah . . . and slay them [the unbelievers] wherever you find them and drive them out . . . and fight them until . . . religion is for Allah (Sura 2:190-193).

Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, “The sword is the key of heaven and hell. A drop of blood in the cause of Allah — a night spent in arms [war] — is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer. Whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment, his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim.”12

Muslim Propaganda

Muslims living in Western democracies try to defend their religion by quoting Sura 2:256 which says, “There is no compulsion in religion.”

In evaluating this very lonely verse in the Koran, you need to keep in mind first that it was written before Muhammad was rejected by Jews, Christians and his fellow Arabs — before he fled to Medina and started responding in hatred to all his detractors. But even more important is the fact that Islamic teachers themselves argue that this verse was later abrogated, either by the words or actions of Muhammad.13

Some argue that the verse was abrogated by Muhammad’s later orders for his troops to fight until unbelievers were compelled to surrender to Islam.

Others argue it was abrogated by Sura 9:73 which says, “O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be harsh with them.”

A third group argues that the words of the verse do not mean what they seem to say. They argue the words mean that religion cannot be used to force someone to do some­thing evil, but compelling people to accept the truth of Allah is a religious duty.

A fourth group of Islamic clerics accepts the words to mean what they say, but they argue that they were part of Allah’s strategy to advance Islam. While Muslims were weak, Allah spoke through Muhammad and told them to tolerate infidels. But when the Muslims became strong, Allah commanded them to cease being tolerant and attack and subdue the infidels. The bottom line is that regardless of the explanation, the result is the same — the verse has been abrogated, and infidels must embrace Islam or face death.

Muslims sometimes counter by pointing to the intolerance and violence that have characterized both Jews and Christians at certain times in their histories. They point to the slaughter of the Canaanites when the Jews took the Promised Land under the leadership of Joshua. And, of course, they point to the Christian Crusades in the Middle Ages. Using these examples, they accuse Jews and Christians of being hypocritical in attacking the in­tolerance and violence of Islam today.

With regard to the Jews, this argument ignores the fact that God used them as an instrument of His judgment against the tribes living in Canaan — just as He later used the Assyrians and Chal­deans to judge the Jews (Genesis 15:16; Leviticus 18:24-25; Deuteronomy 9:5). He never told the Jews to conquer the world for Him, and He provided them with precise instructions as to how they were to treat aliens who might wish to live among them. They were to be treated with dignity and were to be pro­vided with justice (Leviticus 19:17, 33 and Deuteronomy 27:19). Even more, the Jews were commanded to love their neighbors as they loved themselves (Leviticus 19:18).

Regarding the Christian Crusades, they were an aberration in Christian history based upon perverted Catholic doctrine and not upon any biblical injunction. In contrast, the intolerance and violence that have characterized Islam throughout its history are firmly rooted in the Koran.

What a contrast all the ghastly commands of Muhammad are to the loving words of Jesus who told Christians:

“Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you” (Matthew 5:44).

“Whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also” (Matthew 5:39).

“Do not judge, lest you be judged” (Matthew 7:1).

“However you want people to treat you, so treat them” (Mat­thew 7:12).

“You shall love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:39).

“This is my commandment that you love one another” (John 15:12, 17).

“Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends” (John 15:13).

And what a contrast it is between the admonition of Muhammad to conquer for Allah with the sword and Jesus’ exhortation to go forth in peace and appeal to people’s hearts through the preaching of the Gospel, relying on the persuasive power of God’s Holy Spirit.

The Imperialistic Nature of Islam

From its inception, Islam has been committed to what it calls jihad — a word mean­ing holy war. The duty of Muslims is to subjugate or destroy “infidels” — the term the Koran uses for all non-believers.

In the Muslim viewpoint, the world is divided into two regions — those areas controlled by Islam, called Dar al-Islam (meaning the House of Islam) and those called Dar al-Harb (the House of War). The Koran commands Mus­lims to fight non-Muslims until they exterminate all other religions, leaving Islam as the one and only religion in the world (Suras 2:193 and 8:39). Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, “I have been ordered to fight with the people until they say, none has the right to be worshiped but Allah” (Hadith 4:196).

Regarding terror, Allah orders Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims on his behalf: “Strike terror (into the hearts of ) the enemies of Allah and your enemies” (Sura 8:60). Allah then assures his followers that he will assist them: “I will instill terror into the hearts of unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. It is not you who slay them, it is Allah” (Sura 8:12, 17).

Concerning jihad,14 the Koran guarantees Paradise to those who fight for Allah (Sura 4:74). It promises instant Paradise for those who die in battle (Suras 9:111 and 47:5-6). Dying for Allah is presented as better than living: “And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that others may amass [of worldly wealth]” (Sura 3:157).

Martyrs are promised a sensual and luxurious life in Paradise (Sura 52:17-22). According to Al-Ghazzali, one of Islam’s greatest teachers, when a martyr reaches Paradise, he “will marry 500 companions, 4,000 virgins, and 8,000 divorced women.”15 Commenting on this statement, Randall Price, biblical teacher and Middle East expert, observed that the Islamic Paradise is “just the kind of place that adolescent, unmarried men, isolated through their lives from the opposite sex by rigid cultural standards, would die for.”16

Islamic Sermons

The murderous imperialistic nature of Islam is clearly revealed in the sermons delivered weekly throughout the Muslim world. Consider the following excerpt from a sermon by Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi that was broadcast live over Palestinian television on June 8, 2001. Referring to a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv that had killed 21 Israeli teenagers the week before, he praised the terror­ists:17 “Blessings to whoever waged jihad for the sake of Allah. Blessings to whoever raided for the sake of Allah. Blessings to whoever put a belt of explosives on his body, or on his son’s body, and plunged into the midst of the Jews, crying, ‘Allahu Akbar!’ Praise to Allah!”

Then he expressed the imperialistic aims of Islam by issuing warnings to nations that would be “erased:” “Allah is almighty . . . We must prepare the ground for the army of Allah that is coming ac­cording to [divine] predestination. We must prepare a foothold for them. Allah is willing for this unjust state of Israel to be erased. The unjust state, the United States, will be erased. The unjust state, Britain, will be erased.”

A similar sermon was delivered the previous year on October 13, 2000, by Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya.18 It too was carried live on Palestinian television. He proclaimed that the true terrorists are the Jews “who must be butchered and killed, as Allah the Almighty has said.” He called for Muslims to have no mercy on the Jews: “Fight them wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them, . . . and kill those Americans who are like them — who stand by them.” As an incentive to carry out these murderous exhortations, the cleric added: “O brothers in belief, the beautiful bride has a costly price and dowry . . . Our bride is Paradise. O brothers in belief . . . the cost of the dowry of this bride . . . is that we fight in the path of Allah, and kill and be killed.”

Keep in mind that these are quotes from sermons! Can you imagine a Jewish rabbi or a Christian minister urging their congregations to go out and kill a Muslim for God?

Fundamentalist Goals

The Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran was the modern day Islamic spokesman who revived Muhammad’s vision of world con­quest. He taught that the re-establishment of Israel was a Satanic miracle allowed by Allah because of the lukewarmness of the Muslim masses. He called for a renewal of true Islam to accomplish three purposes:19

To overthrow the “secular” rulers of Islamic countries (like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Egypt), just as he had done in Iran.

To take back the land of Palestine for Allah, exterminating Israel in the process.

To conquer the rest of the world for Allah. Notice the first priority was the transformation of secular Islamic countries into religious states ruled by the Koran. Then would come Israel and the world.

In a proclamation made by Osama bin Laden in 1998, he listed the same goals and prioritized them in the same order.20 He then identified the United States as the prime obstacle to the achievement of these goals. Accordingly, he called on Muslims everywhere “to comply with Allah’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”

It is important to note that the eradication of Israel is not the top priority. Nor is Israel viewed as the major obstacle to world conquest. I emphasize this because many Americans are saying that the key to winning the war against terrorism is to dump Israel. More and more, on radio talk shows, I hear people saying, “Let’s cut Israel loose. Let the Arabs have it. Then they will leave us alone.”

That is utter nonsense. Israel is not the cause of Islamic terrorism toward the West. If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, Fundamentalist Islam would still be determined to destroy America as part of its plan to take the world for Allah. And if we were to abandon Israel, the Muslim world would interpret it as an act of cowardice, proving our word is meaningless and that we truly are, as they say, “a depraved society devoid of values.” Our abandonment of Israel would only whet their appetite. Islamic Fundamentalism cannot be appeased. It must be de­feated.

Answering Questions

I want to conclude by answering the questions we began with:

Are Muslims the spiritual brothers and sisters of Christians and Jews? No, they have been deceived by a Satanic, false religion.

Do we all worship the same God? Absolutely not. The god of Islam is a false god. He is really Satan in disguise.

Are the Islamic holy scriptures, known as the Koran, inspired by God? Not the God of the Bible. The Islamic scrip­tures are a jumbled mess of contradictory statements that are unscientific, unhistorical, and unbiblical.

Is Islam another path to God by which one can obtain eternal life? No! Muslims reject Jesus as Messiah and deny His atoning sacrifice. Jesus said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me” (John 14:6).

Are the Islamic Fundamentalists representative of true Islam, or have they hijacked a peace-loving religion? There is no doubt they represent the true heart of Islam. Islam is a cultural, intolerant, militant and imperialistic religion of the sword.

Is our war really a political one against terrorism, or is it a spiritual one against a demonic religion known as Islam? Based upon the evidence I have presented from the Koran and from history, I think the answer is obvious. We are not engaged in a war against terrorism. Terrorism is a means, not the source of the struggle. Terrorism is a tool of those waging the war. To say this is a war against terrorism is equivalent to saying World War II was a war against U-Boats, V2 Rockets and Kamikaze planes. No, World War II was a war against Fascism. The current war is one against Islamic Fundamentalism.

But even more substantive, it is a spiritual war against the forces of Satan.

To finish this essay to learn how Islam is an obstacle to the fulfillment of the Gospel click on the source URL.


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I am concerned about the myth out there that Islam is a peaceful religion. I understand what President Bush is trying to do, but I hope that this is not what he truly believes. Personally I find it downright creepy that the White House is hosting Ramadan prayer services and our president is breaking bread with them. Maybe that's just me. It is imperative to look at the nature of the enemy we war with and the context in which we are seen by them regardless of our religious beliefs. I wonder how many of us are informed about what Islam is or isn't. I posted this article for the purpose of educating. I hope y'all find it useful.
1 posted on 11/19/2001 6:16:00 PM PST by sweetliberty
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cult (klt)

n.

A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

The followers of such a religion or sect. A system or community of religious worship and ritual. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.

2 posted on 11/19/2001 6:24:06 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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Insurgent Islam and American Collaboration
4 posted on 11/19/2001 6:26:40 PM PST by dtom
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From a webpage about naming Muslims: Basics

(3) From the names forbidden for our sons and daughters particular to our enemies, the Jews and the Christians, like: George, David, Michael, Joseph, Diana, Jaclyn etc., since use of these names causes - sooner or later-love of them and feeling of closeness to them and imitating them in their manners and their customs and we - the Muslims - have been forbidden to imitate our enemies and to have love for them and ties of friendship.

I keep hearing from people that we are not their enemies.

5 posted on 11/19/2001 6:28:26 PM PST by abner
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Very well done. Well-researched and insightful. Islam is a gutter religion.

Merry Bombadan

7 posted on 11/19/2001 6:36:46 PM PST by nonliberal
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To: sweetliberty
The true face of anti-American evil Islam
8 posted on 11/19/2001 6:48:08 PM PST by dtom
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To: isthisnickcool
Hmmm. I am Lutheran, but in reading this article I find some things that I take exception to. Mohammed's successor Abu Bakr was elected Caliph after Mohammed died. A Caliph is the Muslim Ruler.

Allah is the Arabic word for God.

Mohammed always stated that he was a messenger of God and it is westernized interpretations that began to say call followers of Mohammed Mohammedans. Muslims take exception to that because it gives the incorrect impression that Muslims worshipped Mohammed. They do not. They worship God and accept Mohammed as his prophet and messenger.

Mohammed believed he was the last prophet of God (Allah), the same God of Christianity. He was upset that his country men were wild and lawless, believing in idols.

I can find other areas of dispute but have decided not to finish reading because I think what you have chosen to print here is a biased and possibly inaccurate and unfair interpretation. If you read the World Book Enclyclopedia, for instance, there you will learn that Mohammed hated war and taught against violence except for self defense. He tried desparately to spread his beliefs most of which were centered around goodness and fairness within the family and assistance of the poor.

The Jihad was something that Abu Bakr and his successors began. I think we need to be careful in studying Islam that we do not begin with a source of information that is biased by their own religious beliefs.

9 posted on 11/19/2001 6:58:29 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: sweetliberty
Violence in the Bible and the Qur'an Christian Perspective
10 posted on 11/19/2001 7:18:04 PM PST by dtom
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To: mystomachisturning
If you read the World Book Enclyclopedia, for instance, there you will learn that Mohammed hated war and taught against violence except for self defense.

I suggest you read the Koran and the Hadith if you want a true flavor of islam. Mo was a warlord...during his exile in Medina he waged raids against caravans...looting, stealing and murdering. He claims at various times to have received his message directly from God...from angles and from Gabriel. Islam is a bunch of utter nonsense. If you read a little and get an idea of how they view such things as the truth, and treaties and alliances as flexible tools of convenience you'll understand how dangerous it is to trust these people.

The World Book Encyclopedia is not a suitable reference, read the koran and the hadith. It will open your eyes.

11 posted on 11/19/2001 7:18:06 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: mystomachisturning
I forgot to mention at the ending that the source also contains the notes, if you click on the source URL.
12 posted on 11/19/2001 7:22:51 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: pgkdan
I said Encyclopedia, for instance. I have looked in various places for information about Islam. I have no desire to argue the point with anyone because quite frankly I have as much anger about the WTC and some of the things I have heard people from that part of the world say as you do, I am sure. I just want to be fair and understand Islam as it is without being embellished and distorted. I think what I read above has been distorted. But it doesn't matter. You are free to believe whatever you want. I do think that there are a number of religious scholars who might take a different view. It still will not change the fact that fanatics attacked America.
13 posted on 11/19/2001 7:52:41 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: pgkdan
Here is another unbiased source of information that might be helpful link here
14 posted on 11/19/2001 8:02:21 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: sweetliberty
"Personally I find it downright creepy that the White House is hosting Ramadan prayer services and our president is breaking bread with them. Maybe that's just me."

No, it's not just you.

I could be rationalizing, but I think that Bush is following something out of a Godfather movie, which is, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.". Also what I try to keep in mind is that the President has a strategy and is privy to information that we'll never have. Even so, I don't like it one bit either.

15 posted on 11/19/2001 8:23:42 PM PST by Paulie
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To: sweetliberty
"Personally I find it downright creepy that the White House is hosting Ramadan prayer services and our president is breaking bread with them. Maybe that's just me."

You're not alone. I feel that the President is making a mistake. Appeasing the Muslims won't work. They respect power only. America needs to start erasing some of their countries. The others will fall in line.

16 posted on 11/19/2001 9:08:10 PM PST by etcetera
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To: mystomachisturning
"Allah is the Arabic word for God."

And Krishna is the Hindu name for God.

Would you feel comfortable praying to "Lord Krishna"?

I would not.

A religion may claim that its figurehead is the same as the God that Jews and Christians worship. Claiming so does not make it so.

The "moon god" origin of "Allah" is well-documented, and an offhanded assertion to the effect that "well, he's God, just with a different name" does not impress those who know the reality of the derivation of the lower-case-g god called "Allah".

17 posted on 11/19/2001 9:13:32 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: sweetliberty
The article may well be true in every way (I hope not, but fear it comes very close).

However, we should not overlook a key fact: Christianity does not seek to convert by force, nor does it sanction unprovoked aggression. Even if Islam is every bit as bad as depicted in this article, we should not deliberately pick a fight with all of Islam as a result of the attack by a few.

Osama bin Laden is certainly trying to provoke exactly that fight. His first objective is to unify all of Islam against us. THEN he believes he will be strong enough to destroy us, and convert the rest of the world to Islam by force.

It is my hope that he will not succeed in his attempt to unify Islam. My hope is that the terrorists can be marginalized and destroyed, without the necessity of fighting all of Islam. If this hope comes true, militant Islam will be put back in its cave. Once that happens, I have no problem pitting Christianity against Islam in a person by person battle for men's souls.

President Bush is pursuing the same ideal I just expressed above. It is his Christian duty to make the attempt, but it is very much uncertain whether he will succeed.

If he fails, we will be forced to battle a united Islam. The war would be the worst the world has ever seen. It could even signal the beginning of the end times.

However, thus far, we are clearly winning. The dreaded Taliban is no longer a threat. Bin Laden is running for his life. No new terrorist attacks have been launched. In Islamic eyes, perhaps Allah is not on Bin Laden's side after all. If this keeps up, the Islamic attack will recede.

Although the above comments are my thoughts on the heart of this article, another matter also deserves attention. As a Christian, I feel compelled to defend my faith against a common misconception that the author of this article has fallen prey to. It is a very common misconception taught in most Western history books. That the Crusades were an aberation is not in doubt. But WHY they occurred in the first place is often overlooked. To quote the article:

Regarding the Christian Crusades, they were an aberration in Christian history based upon perverted Catholic doctrine and not upon any biblical injunction.

This misses the central point of the Crusades. The Crusades were a counter-attack aimed at retaking lands that had been conquered by the Muslims. The only way a sufficiently large army could be raised from a fragmented Europe was to find a way to unite the various groups. The Catholic church was a strongly political force, and willingly obliged. To say this episode represents Christianity is ridiculous.

Getting back to the article: "Moderate" Muslims claim articles like this misrepresent their faith. Now is the time for these "moderate" Muslims to stand up and be counted. They should be everywhere, standing up against terrorists, and persuasively refuting articles like this. Even in our country, where are they?

18 posted on 11/19/2001 9:16:21 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: mystomachisturning
As a Lutheran, I would hope that you are founded enough on the Word to recognize a false prophet and a false god when you see one. Your comments tend toward Unitarianism.

The Muslim "Allah" is not God the Father. The Muslim "Allah" is not the Holy Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit - "one God in 3 persons and 3 persons in one God" from the Athanasian Creed). Islam strictly and overtly denies the Trinity. Islam does not teach Christ as the Lord and Savior:

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds. 2 John 1:9-11

Based on this passage alone, Islam is a false religion. The Muslim Allah is a false god. There is no salvation in Islam, only eternal damnation. Islam is a religion of work righteousness - you must lead a holy and pious life to earn your "salvation". Islam denies the free and full atonement for our sins won through Christ's death and resurrection.

Islam is a false religion that worships a false god - rank idolatry in God's eyes.

A Lutheran

19 posted on 11/19/2001 9:18:09 PM PST by FatherOfLiberty
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To: EternalHope
"It is my hope that he will not succeed in his attempt to unify Islam"

It is my thought that he is not going to live long enough to unify anybody.

" To say this episode represents Christianity is ridiculous."

I don't think that is the point that the author was trying to make at all. Quite the contrary. I think he was saying that while the Crusades were a fact of Christian history, they in no way represented the Christian faith or its doctrines.

20 posted on 11/19/2001 9:29:20 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Don Joe
Well, that's all fine and dandy. But the fact of the matter is that many people who believe in Allah do not interpret the way you do. Nor do they interpret the Koran the way you do, and that is really the issue here.

On the other hand, and there always seems to be another hand in all of this, we are still faced with a faction of the Islamic religion that insists on carrying on their jihad against America. And the fact of the matter remains that we have no way of knowing for sure which of those Muslims within our country really feel that way because they do not broadcast it.

21 posted on 11/19/2001 9:48:31 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: FatherOfLiberty
Sir, I am not the one accepting Allah as my god. Islam is not my religion. I am also not a Unitarian, thank you very much. But as a person who is Lutheran and does believe in God, that does not prevent me (I hope) from trying to understand the religion of another person (in this case Islam). I am not trying to convert to Islam and I really don't think that you are reflecting our religion well by presenting your argument in a way that would suggest my honest attempt to understand Islam makes me less Lutheran. If that were true, then I would not want to be a Lutheran because I believe that it would show a disregard and disrespect for the truth of another human being. Do you really believe that you must nurture a hatred toward Islam in order to be true to your religion? I don't.
22 posted on 11/19/2001 9:54:22 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: EternalHope
"Moderate" Muslims claim articles like this misrepresent their faith. Now is the time for these "moderate" Muslims to stand up and be counted. They should be everywhere, standing up against terrorists, and persuasively refuting articles like this. Even in our country, where are they?

Some "moderate" muslims have spoken, and continue to appear on TV and radio. Often they are highly educated, and well spoken.

But their message is shallow, and deceitful. Islam permits lying (dissembling) and is called "Al-Taqiyah." They will do this without end. It is part of the culture to lie, cheat..even your own family.

The logic pattern of these highly educated muslims ranks with a juvenile delinquent. They will obliqely justify terror (Sep. 11.."we are against this incident"; Palestinian child bombers.."these are justified..in self defense").

They cannot be reasoned with, for they are unreasonable, and devoid of western morality. Any muslim cleric who incites violence or hatred should be arrested, convicted, and jailed. If not a citizen, deported upon completion of sentence.

We must recognize the risk of going too easy on these folks. They know respect and fear of only massive power and force. They have asked for it; continue to dissemble rather than denounce their own terrorists; and sooner or later they have it coming.

23 posted on 11/19/2001 10:00:49 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: mystomachisturning
"Well, that's all fine and dandy. But the fact of the matter is that many people who believe in Allah do not interpret the way you do."

So what?

There are people who worship any number of things, and they all claim that "it's really God!" I'm not buying into it, especially in the case of islam, which has been unambiguously documented as an offshoot of a moon-worshipping sect.

IOW, please stop trying to ply your brand of ecumenicism on me, as I'm not buying any of it.

24 posted on 11/19/2001 10:02:41 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: sweetliberty
"He married one girl who was only six years old and had sexual relations with her when she was 9."

Islam appears to be nothing more than a glorified "Jim Jones" sect with this pedophile Muhammad as its prophet.

25 posted on 11/19/2001 10:31:10 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: FatherOfLiberty
well-stated ...
26 posted on 11/19/2001 10:38:07 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: Don Joe
You act like you are talking to someone who........never mind. I won't say it. Your message speaks for itself.
27 posted on 11/19/2001 10:54:21 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: mystomachisturning
"Do you really believe that you must nurture a hatred toward Islam in order to be true to your religion?

Would you kindly direct me to the portion of my post that "nurtures a hatred toward Islam"?

28 posted on 11/20/2001 6:34:29 AM PST by FatherOfLiberty
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To: sweetliberty
Regarding terror, Allah orders Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims on his behalf:

The average Muslim doesn't go around terrorizing non-Muslims. That is a fact.

This article is a bit biased.

Allah is the Arabic word for God. Christian Arabs also call God Allah.

29 posted on 11/20/2001 6:35:20 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
The average Muslim doesn't go around terrorizing non-Muslims. That is a fact.

Nor does the "average Muslim" ringingly denounce the events of 9/11. This is cause for suspicion. They are deafening by their silence (or guilty, in some cases, by their public celebration). If they do denounce those events, it is most often with a large "but" with an explanation of why we had it coming.

The problem we have is that Islam is a religious-political system. You can't have one without the other. This statement is based both on their ideology (Koran and Hadith) and their deeds (history, recent and not-so-recent).

If not, at what point do you move Islam from the "peaceful, friendly religion" category to the "murderous tyrannical cult-of-personality totalitarian group that cloaks itself in religion" category? How many more casualties would it take? Does it matter if they are American, Filipino, Indian, Indonesian, Nigerian, or Sudanese? Because "peaceful friendly Muslims" are killing non-Muslims in all these places, and others, primarily because they are non-Muslims who want no part of this religious-political system. Nor do I.

Until I see major reform in the Muslim world, as evidenced by acts and deeds, and not empty words, I will view all Muslim with suspicion.

30 posted on 11/20/2001 7:05:12 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: sweetliberty
I don't think that is the point that the author was trying to make at all. Quite the contrary. I think he was saying that while the Crusades were a fact of Christian history, they in no way represented the Christian faith or its doctrines.

I agree. My point was simply an add-on. To say that the Crusades were an aberation is true, but leaves out the undisputed fact that they were the only way Europe could be unified enough to mount a counter-attack against Islamic aggression.

This would not matter, except that the Crusades are almost always presented as an example of unprovoked military aggression by Christians. The next step, of course, is to claim moral equivalence with Islamic aggression, justification for Islamic paranoia about Christians, etc.

The world hears the current Islamic aggression compared with the Christian Crusades every day. (Bin Laden refers to us as "Crusaders" just as often as "Americans".) The Crusades are used as proof of moral equivalence in the West, and as a daily war cry in Islamic nations.

In sum, to point out only that Christianity does not sanction unprovoked aggression is basically to appologize for the Crusades, plus open the door to charges of moral equivalency. The historical context of the Crusades is almost never mentioned. But when looked at in the historical context, the entire picture changes. The Moslems were the aggressors then, just as they are today.

31 posted on 11/20/2001 7:26:31 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: sweetliberty
The truth about Islam.........


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32 posted on 11/20/2001 7:42:04 AM PST by ppaul
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To: EternalHope
Thank you for elaborating on the Crusades. I think it is a valuable contribution to the discussion. My reason for posting this essay was to help dispel some of the ridiculous and uninformed rhetoric floating around out there these days. This is probably the first time that many Americans have even had any occasion to look into the religion of Islam, and as you point out, there is a lot of propaganda out there.
33 posted on 11/20/2001 7:47:05 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
More truth.....


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34 posted on 11/20/2001 7:50:03 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks for the graphic.
35 posted on 11/20/2001 7:52:44 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
the myth out there that Islam is a peaceful religion. And who are you to judge this a myth?

What advanced degrees in religious studies and theology do you have to breath out accusations with such ease?

All of a sudden so many people have become experts in religion, especially of others --- religions of which they knew not a word just last summer. Shame on you. To accuse someone without a due cause is not Christian.

Go do some studying beyond plucking out a few quotes from Quran before you start throwing around judgements like that!

36 posted on 11/20/2001 9:08:19 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Don Joe; mystomachisturning
Jon Doe, "Allah is the Arabic word for God."
And Krishna is the Hindu name for God. Would you feel comfortable praying to "Lord Krishna"?
What does this have to do with what the word means to those who actually use it?
Would you feel comfortable praying to "Lord Krishna"? I would not. Noone asks us to do so; most certainly there is nothing of that sort in mystomachisturning's post.

When people use words in a way different from ours in the privacy of their church, it has nothing to do with the rest of us; this does not make them villains.

37 posted on 11/20/2001 9:21:23 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
Jon Doe, "Allah is the Arabic word for God."
And Krishna is the Hindu name for God. Would you feel comfortable praying to "Lord Krishna"?
What does this have to do with what the word means to those who actually use it?
Would you feel comfortable praying to "Lord Krishna"? I would not. Noone asks us to do so; most certainly there is nothing of that sort in mystomachisturning's post.

You see nothing of that sort, I do see something of that sort. If I didn't, I wouldn't have said anything.

"When people use words in a way different from ours in the privacy of their church, it has nothing to do with the rest of us; this does not make them villains.

1. I did not say he was a villain, please don't flog that strawman here, thanks. 2. I don't care if they say that a 1939 Huppmobile is "God" -- in the "privacy of their church". However, once the claim enters the marketplace of ideas, it's fair game for challenge.

If he does not want people to challenge his claim that "Allah" is "God", then he should not make the claim in public. If he does make that claim in public, then he's very naive (not to mention thin-skinned) if he seriously believes that others won't challenge it.

He has every right to make the claim -- but he has no right to insist that it be accepted.

What I find curious is the islamist logic that seems to be at play here -- the claims of islam are presented, not for debate, but with the implicit message that they must be accepted, and anyone who doesn't accept them is out of line.

Well, I'm sorry. I don't accept them. I say that "Allah" is not "God", and I have plenty of evidence to back it up. If I'm out of line for saying that "Allah is not God", then so is anyone who insists that "Allah is God."

You can't have it otherwise, unless we're all under shariah law. And we ain't.

38 posted on 11/20/2001 10:04:54 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: TopQuark; sweetliberty
"the myth out there that Islam is a peaceful religion."

"And who are you to judge this a myth?"

This is a free country, Mr. Islamist-defender. He's an American, and he has the right to voice his observations.

"What advanced degrees in religious studies and theology do you have to breath out accusations with such ease?"

Get real. It doen't take degrees in aeronautical engineering and architecture to recognize the fact that your islamic friends attacked my country on 9/11.

Frankly, at this stage of the game, the onus is upon he who asserts that islam is a "peaceful religion".

All of a sudden so many people have become experts in religion, especially of others --- religions of which they knew not a word just last summer. Shame on you. To accuse someone without a due cause is not Christian."

No, shame on you. How shameful for an islamist advocate to stand in judgement of a Christian -- specifically a Christian who is being attacked for having stated the obvious.

Go do some studying beyond plucking out a few quotes from Quran before you start throwing around judgements like that!

One need study little more than a newspaper these days, to realize that islam is rife with violence.

39 posted on 11/20/2001 10:13:03 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Frankly, at this stage of the game, the onus is upon he who asserts that islam is a "peaceful religion".

Agreed. It is undisputed that the world has many Islamic terrorists, and that many Moslems cheer when they strike.

Because of these undisputed facts, the onus is unquestionably on Islam to prove its peaceful nature, not the other way around.

Attacking those who point out this obvious fact says something about the attacker, not the one making the observation.

40 posted on 11/20/2001 10:29:53 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs; sweetliberty
"Christian Arabs also call God Allah."

I've heard that claim made repeatedly by islamists, and islamist-supporters -- and ignorant folks. Strangely, I've also heard repeatedly that Christian Arabs do not "call God Allah." But, since the people who deny that Christian Arabs "call God Allah" are Christian Arabs, who are they to talk?

/sarcasm

41 posted on 11/20/2001 10:32:50 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: TopQuark
Shame on you. To accuse someone without a due cause is not Christian.

SweetLiberty posted an extensively documented article on Islam. If you wish to point out where that article was wrong, please do so. Even better, provide equivalent information proving the peaceful nature of Islam. Either way, we would all like to read an intelligent response from an informed defender of Islam.

However, to defend Islam simply by attacking a person who questions it is no defense at all. On the contrary, it strengthens the suspicion that a legitimate defense is not possible.

BTW, it should be obvious, but I'll point it out anyway: To claim that Islam has been accused without due cause is absurd. Shame on you (your words).

Thus far you have only hurt your cause. If you wish to defend Islam in a legitimate way, I look forward to reading your defense.

42 posted on 11/20/2001 10:43:32 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: Don Joe
Allah is also the Aramaic word for God.
43 posted on 11/20/2001 10:44:26 AM PST by Patria One
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To: EternalHope
Moderate Muslims? I think its hard to hear them over the abuse and the lies.

Have you ever spoken with a Muslim or do you expect them to be ranting on street corners?

44 posted on 11/20/2001 10:46:09 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Don Joe
"Pilgrimage — A Muslim is required, despite the hardship and cost, to make a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia once in his lifetime. Again, what if all Christians were required to go to Rome once in their lifetimes?"

The above is a lie, but there are almost too many in this desperately ignorant piece to bother.

45 posted on 11/20/2001 10:50:19 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
You just don't get it. How sad.
46 posted on 11/20/2001 11:06:03 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Patria One
"Have you ever spoken with a Muslim or do you expect them to be ranting on street corners?"

I expect them to be ranting on FreeRepublic. And I must say my expectation has been disappointed.

47 posted on 11/20/2001 11:07:25 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: ppaul
Chilling photos. I think it's safe to say that we don't have the equivilant in Christianity.
48 posted on 11/20/2001 11:09:13 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Patria One; EternalHope; sweetliberty
"Pilgrimage — A Muslim is required, despite the hardship and cost, to make a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia once in his lifetime. Again, what if all Christians were required to go to Rome once in their lifetimes?"

"The above is a lie, but there are almost too many in this desperately ignorant piece to bother."

If one wants to see a lie up close and personal, one need look no further than your post, quoted above, in which you attribute words to me which I never spoke, and then launch into a strawman attack on them.

Very tacky, Mr. Muslim-Apologist. Very tacky indeed...

49 posted on 11/20/2001 11:10:07 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
You just don't know a thing about Islam.

I would be just as disgusted with people posting stupid lies like this about Catholics, Jews or Protestants.

(If they posted lies about Hinduism, I wouldn't know the difference since I don't know anything about Hinduism.)

The poster must be betting that Freepers aren't curious enough to check it out.

50 posted on 11/20/2001 11:10:16 AM PST by Patria One
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