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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, This has been my only source of sanity for almost 4 years, Keep it Going!

Suggestion, if push comes to shove, I wouldn't have any qualms against a small monthly membership fee.

1,161 posted on 11/29/2001 6:38:06 AM PST by kevin
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
I'm a member of the AF community by choice (and as I have been reminded a time or two) I'm NOT a "real" anti-freeper. Whatever the heck that means...

Being a "real" anti-freeper, means that you've sworn an oath on you mother's grave, to hate FR, Jim Robinson, and anyone associate with them, and that you would gladly cut off your left testicle to bring about their demise.

They really aren't too tightly wrapped.

Like I said... you're a big boy.

Just keep your eyes open.

1,162 posted on 11/29/2001 6:38:09 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
Don't let the cry babies and whinners ruin what we have at FR...

Not to mention the loosers.


Agree!!
1,163 posted on 11/29/2001 6:38:10 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Bloody Reaper
Esther: "heathen libertarian"

Fred: "This is the big one ... I'm coming Elizabeth!"
1,164 posted on 11/29/2001 6:38:50 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: maxwell
Bubba, don't shoot the jukebox. Here, this will make ya laugh your nads off. Pull here
1,165 posted on 11/29/2001 6:39:30 AM PST by Roebucks
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To: Jim Robinson
Sir,

I have read FR for a couple of years, and just began posting a month or so back. I have never given any thought to your expenses and beg forgiveness, $50 check in the mail today, and I will do the same every quarter.

I hope you keep it up. Good luck and God Bless.

1,166 posted on 11/29/2001 6:39:47 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: Jim Robinson
See you Saturday at the Freepathon.

Eagles Up

1,167 posted on 11/29/2001 6:41:07 AM PST by CRAW
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To: Hank Kerchief
I have worked with companies to include advertising on their sites. The advertisers usually get their way and you have to bend with them or lose the very funding that keeps your site alive. FR could sell t-shirts, sweat shirts, banners, hats, bumper stickers, etc to make great money.

As Jim said, the lawsuit has to be completed before changes to FR's status can be made anyway.

1,168 posted on 11/29/2001 6:41:28 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: angelo
I disagree. People freely choose to donate. That they do so is nobody else's business. How Jim spends the money donated is also nobody else's business.

I'm not talking about what should be. I'm talking about what is.

1,169 posted on 11/29/2001 6:41:37 AM PST by mlo
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To: anniegetyourgun; Jim Robinson; kristinn; ironman
"I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S...." "Sorry to hear that. These are not your friends, but your enemies."

Jim, I think you should post a list of past disruptors and let us rules-abiding FReepers vote on who should be let back in on a temporary probationary period basis. Maybe you could code 'probationary screenames' to appear in red - kind of like The Scarlet Letter.

What - is this website only for registered card carying Republicans who contribute X amount of $ to the GOP? Variety of opinion and the discourse thereof is what makes this website so wonderful.

1,170 posted on 11/29/2001 6:44:09 AM PST by Rockinfreakapotamus
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic go away???!!!!

Where on earth would we get our news???

1,171 posted on 11/29/2001 6:44:35 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, Some of us are more than willing to support this site. I have been in for $10.00 /month for almost a year. Those of us that value this site and what you and yours do to further the conservative cause are willing to speak with our wallets as well as with our mouths.

Keep the site going as long as you can. Many of us look to FreeRepublic as our main source of news and thoughtful commentary.

1,172 posted on 11/29/2001 6:44:59 AM PST by RetiredNavy
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To: Jim Robinson
ALL....

Most of the people on FR need to get a life and realize FR is not their Mommy, saviour, baby sitter, nanny, big brother, playground, locker room or massage parlor. If I missed a few of you, sorry, is early in the morning.

Now you all know in which section you belong, dont ask for directions. For you that have not a clue, Romper Room for those that need ritalin is two doors down. Temper tantrums and bad language can be vented there. Have a nice day.

1,173 posted on 11/29/2001 6:45:17 AM PST by cynicom
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To: TKEman
A Chart of Accounts is simply a listing of the accounts... It does not include any other data... no income/loss figures, no expenses. Just:

1000 Cash In Bank

1020 Accounts Receivable

1400 Office Equipment

And so on. What you are asking for is a detailed profit and loss statement, or a general ledger.

1,174 posted on 11/29/2001 6:45:20 AM PST by SCalGal
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To: denydenydeny; Jim Robinson
We need to do a fundraiser like some local charities do where they have an auction to "jail" certain local celebrities.

Have a fundraiser auction thread where FReepers can donate funds with an earmark to temporarilly ban certain FReepers for a week. It's all done in fun and FReepers can even donate a counter bid to bail themselves out.

FReepers could even pool together donations to temp ban certain obnoxious FReepers. :)

Those generating the largest donations for temporary banning will become celebrities in FReeper lore. Hopefully no one will get too bent out of joint on being selected as a FReeper martyr for a week. :)

1,175 posted on 11/29/2001 6:46:16 AM PST by anymouse
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To: OWK
By losers you must mean Harry Browne....(just a friendly dig), ....you are a worthy adversary and a capable spokesman for your views.
1,176 posted on 11/29/2001 6:46:52 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: ClancyJ
Very simple, don't help raise money if you have doubts.

As stated in that very same post, I said that I trust JR and BADJOE's judgement, and I very much want to help and see FR continue, but every freepathon people ask very pointed questions to which my response is, "Trust us".

I am a big boy and would not help raise money if I had large doubts about how the budget was handled, on the contrary, I defend it constantly, but I also empathize with chuck allen's questions and find them in no way worthing of his being banned.

1,177 posted on 11/29/2001 6:47:20 AM PST by Topaz
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hugs to you, Harry! Please stick around.
1,178 posted on 11/29/2001 6:47:40 AM PST by diotima
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To: Jim Robinson
I really enjoy Free Republic for its members, content, quality of discussion and technical ease in posting and finding posts and articles. Nothing else comes close.

Have you ever considered taking paid ads or leaving non-profit status? I suspect that the types of people who enjoy FreeRepublic also appreciate a profit motive and would support your attempt to make money for your pocket.

I bet ads would sell well because you have a very particular demographic that I'm sure advertisers would like to target. Heck, for a site like this, I'd even put up with pop-up ads.

1,179 posted on 11/29/2001 6:48:56 AM PST by Darth Reagan
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To: BADJOE
Just Re-UPPED the annual price of FREEDOM!! Check the Credit Card System!

We will NEVER, EVER GIVE UP!

Proud Freeper since July, 1998!

GRRRRRRollin' Freepers ROCK!!

1,180 posted on 11/29/2001 6:49:18 AM PST by GRRRRR
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