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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Arator
I have been on FR for a long time. I am quite a conservative, and I hold a lot of unpopular views. The only time I was ever admonished (fairly recently)I deserved it for being childish. I simply don't beleive your accusations. As for the financial bit, sure if it were true that they were wasting money, I would not like it. However, my $50 bucks per quarter, which will be $100 this time, still comes out to like .001 cents per minute that I spend here. It's not like anyone is getting ripped off in that sense.
981 posted on 11/29/2001 5:02:24 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Jim Robinson
I'll donate, I'll donate. Really FR is pretty fun so definitely keep it. This is almost the thousandth post on this thread .
982 posted on 11/29/2001 5:02:41 AM PST by techcor
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To: chuck allen
Let's see.... This whole thing started because Chuck Allen asked some questions on a thread that's now gone from FR's server. Hmmm.... I'd sure hate for a bunch of people to judge everything without knowing what was on that (now deleted) thread.

Wait a minute. Wait just a doggone minute. It has been pulled back out of the Black Hole

Good deal. Now we can all see what was on that (now deleted) thread.

hehehehehehehe,
Callahan

983 posted on 11/29/2001 5:04:49 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson
Hell no! Free Republic must not go.
984 posted on 11/29/2001 5:04:53 AM PST by Pfesser
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To: redskin
LOL.....without FR there would be no 'stack of stuff' for Rush to talk about on his show!!! Ditto some other talk show hosts too.....who don't like to give FR credit if they can help it!!!
985 posted on 11/29/2001 5:05:41 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Inspector, I think that you have a fine anti-governemnt attitude. Why not just come by and FReep every day like we all do? Post stories, comment on others, etc. Why the need to discuss the inner workings of FR all the time? There are very few people in this world with the leadership, vision, or commitment who would have kept this site up and running all of this time. Cut them some slack.
986 posted on 11/29/2001 5:06:08 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Jim Robinson
But - but - but - If we went away, where would Rush go to get articles for his radio show?

Having said that, I can't imagine my life without FR.

987 posted on 11/29/2001 5:06:33 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Arator
As I regarded them to be a brilliant (and funny) parody of your foul posting personality, I was inclined not to delete them. JenLart, however, was so personally hurt by the fake Howlin's attacks against her, that she insisted that they be deleted despite the fact that the attacks themselves constituted an hilarious send-up of Guild-think. In the end, later that day I acceded to JenLarts wishes and deleted them.

I suggest you take a look at #756, your very own words.

And for you to defend JenLart is highly amusing; what a vile poster she is; she's caused trouble on every forum she's ever been on; even this one; is she STILL a good friend of yours, even after all the nasty things she's said about you.

Are far as wanting to call you a liar again, you're right.

You forgot the part about you being a fraud.

988 posted on 11/29/2001 5:07:37 AM PST by Howlin
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To: anniegetyourgun
It is a wise man that gives his enemies the stage...that way, the world can see what fools they are. Truth always wins in the end! Go Jim Rob!!!
989 posted on 11/29/2001 5:09:19 AM PST by D. Miles
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, thank you for the jewel that is FreeRepublic. I cannot express how important and enjoyable your website has been to me. I have met and conversed with, IMHO, some of the most brilliant, sincere, talented, honest people I have ever met.

The writing and research skills shown by Patent, CheneyChick, AgThorn, ClassyGreenEyedBlond, Aske15, JH2, AlamoGirl, to name only a few, are inspiring. The computing/graphic skills displayed by Billie are a treasure to all.

Jim, although I've been a subscriber for less than a year, the value of FreeRepublic in my life is easily explained. I can no longer watch Fox News/OReilly/Hannity and Combs etc. when they include interviews with known traitors, liars and speakers of half truths. My wife is glued to these broadcasts and briefs me on the content. In every, and I mean every case, I mention that I read and discussed that issue two days ago on FR. You have the most timely news source available and I would truly miss your site and especially it's members, should drastic measures be necessary.

Finally (sorry to use so much bandwith) I view the problem as extremely simple.....financial. Due to the popularity of your website, you have outgrown your room in the basement and must, by necessity, seek more space/staff/equipment/financial support for increased overhead etc. IMHO, the solution is also extremely simple.....increased voluntary funding by those of us who enjoy and depend upon the news and views expressed so eloquently on your site.

I will send you a check today and I encourage all subscribers to do the same.

Note to your detractors, "Not only is my donation voluntary, but if circumstances necessitate closure of FreeRepublic, I want Jim Robinson to consider it a personal Christmas gift to him.

God Bless

990 posted on 11/29/2001 5:09:36 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Jim Robinson
If you're making money off this deal, good for you...And if you're not, I hope you do...I come to Free Republic for ME....I'm not a Bush supporter even tho I voted for him...And FR is still the best thing since sliced bread...
991 posted on 11/29/2001 5:10:11 AM PST by Iscool
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To: tpaine; tex-oma; MadameAxe; OWK
ping
992 posted on 11/29/2001 5:10:18 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: ambrose
Jim: I joined the Free Republic some time in '97.... it has had such an influence in my life..Since our marches on Washington in Oct.98,which I attended with a broken arm, to Rallies in Jan.'99 on the Capitol steps, I've became active in the Republicans party and I'm now the Chairman of the Party in my State's 3rd largest county....The Free Republic and it's members gave me the Hope, Desire and Will to become outspoken about my beliefs and to carry the torch to light the way for others.... This site is the keystone to the grassroot conservative movement in this country... and we are a majority...the other outlets just lied to us and all Americans...Let the Free Republic continue to go forward and bring others to our banners.
993 posted on 11/29/2001 5:10:24 AM PST by carolina rebel
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim... I am less trusting of government and Bush, although I voted for him. I see lots of problems especially in government corruption. I think more posts discussing this should be allowed.

This organization is unique and purposeful and a great way to connect with like minded and unlike-minded people. I enjoy the many intelligent posters and the stupid ones as well, but Mojo unbanned? Ugh, with a capital Ugh.

My money is on the way...I hope we can keep it going. Thanks for all your efforts.

995 posted on 11/29/2001 5:12:53 AM PST by Osinski
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To: Jim Robinson
no reason to lay down your(our)guns Jim....we have just begun the fight!I want my 7 year old son to be a part of this when he's old enough to participate and understand issues.This is who we all are.
996 posted on 11/29/2001 5:13:53 AM PST by oust the louse
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
I'm just getting into it - don't make it go away!

Same here, I just joined a couple of weeks ago...something like that....and am HOOKED already.... I am scanning now for where to send contributions - had no clue how big it was and thus how much it took to operate - I shall contribute since I too am now enjoying.
997 posted on 11/29/2001 5:14:27 AM PST by GussiedUp
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To: TLBSHOW
Hey! That thread that you linked me to on the anti-FReeper site got pulled!!

I am LMAO!!!! That bastion of free speech Eschoir pulled the thread because I came in and called it as I saw it! What a pansy!

998 posted on 11/29/2001 5:14:28 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
yoink
999 posted on 11/29/2001 5:14:44 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: summer
I'd also suggest an online FR store, selling FR t-shirts or polo shirts, FR baseball caps, FR coffee mugs, etc. People would buy that stuff, you would make money, and the site would continue to be promoted.

Well, maybe someday.

It already exists Click here

Or go to the FR title page and click on the Freepstuff link.

1,000 posted on 11/29/2001 5:15:20 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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