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The Forgotten Presidents (The presidents before George Washington)
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Posted on 12/03/2001 7:42:54 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Victoria Delsoul; VA Advogado; Howlin; deport; dennisw; Polybius
Mind candy for you all.
To: Luis Gonzalez
I believe if you were present here at the end of the war, you became a citizen under the terms of the treaty which ended the war, and again under the constitution. The documents are at
Project Avalon. You might be able to get an answer there. I couldn't. It may just be that when territory passed from one government to another, the people went with it. You could say that the Declaration of Independence made us Americans or Massachusans, Virginians, New Yorkers, etc. but many at that point would have wanted to remain subjects of the King.
If you were still loyal to the British King, you might have been during the war or at its end. But I've heard that well into the 19th Century, there were women in the cities of the East collecting pensions their husbands had earned from their service to the King. And there were also Tory families on both sides of the Atlantic who longed to get their property back. I don't know if they ever did.
What interests me is how people in the Dutch Hudson River Valley or the Swedish Delaware or Gaelic Cape Fear or Huguenot New Palz or Charleston, or German Pennsylvania, or the Irish frontier, came to think of themselves as part of one country with the Puritans, Quakers and the Cavaliers. Some of them never did, and remained loyal to the King, but others threw themselves into the cause of national independence.
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posted on
12/03/2001 9:49:16 PM PST
by
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Good Read
He was the great uncle of Robert E. Lee and the scion of a great family tradition.
I never knew that.
To: Luis Gonzalez
George Washington: President of the United States
Peyton Randolph: Presiding officer of 'the United States in Congress assembled.'
Randolph and the others are no different from everyone in the House or Senate addressing the chair as "Mr. President" even though Bush is in the White House.
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posted on
12/03/2001 10:05:40 PM PST
by
Styria
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thank you for that quote. I see that I was wrong and that we were indeed the United States of America from that notification to Briton of our intent. Interesting stuff.
To: Luis Gonzalez
Actually there is a forgotten President AFTER George Washington. I am referring to post Civil War President, Grover T. Rutherford. Although largely forgotten today, this little known Republican President instituted Civil Service reform and was aligned with the Mugwump faction of the party.
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posted on
12/04/2001 3:17:06 AM PST
by
PJ-Comix
To: Luis Gonzalez
Historical BUMP!
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posted on
12/04/2001 3:26:48 AM PST
by
Tinman
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thank you so much, Luis. Excellent article. Bookmarked!
To: William Wallace; Victoria Delsoul; Prodigal Daughter; afraidfortherepublic; billhilly; Billie...
My apologies to any who have been double-bumped!
To: PJ-Comix
This reminds me of a 1970s joke. Question: Who is Gerald Ford's favorite president? Answer: President Rushmore
To: Luis Gonzalez
My apologies to any who have been double-bumped! Don't mention it.
To: Luis Gonzalez
My apologies to any who have been double-bumped! Don't mention it.
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks Luis..
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posted on
12/04/2001 2:30:16 PM PST
by
Dog
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the bump! Excellent information and a good read.
John Jay...he certainly was da man!
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks. You can learn all sorts of things on FreeRepublic.
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12/04/2001 2:48:44 PM PST
by
Rocky
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the PING. Bookmarked.
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posted on
12/04/2001 2:56:42 PM PST
by
Cool Guy
To: Luis Gonzalez
Fascinating, Luis. Thanks for the post!
To: Arthur McGowan
Ask any school child and he will readily tell you... Uh, Um .... uhm Martin Luther King? Uhm.... Abraham Lincoln?
To: Luis Gonzalez
Quite ineteresting. Thanks and bump...
To: Luis Gonzalez
I must have skipped that class BUMP!
Thanks!
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