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Collapse of communist rule seen in China
AT ^ | 12/03/01 | Tim Shorrock

Posted on 12/03/2001 1:48:46 PM PST by Enemy Of The State

Collapse of communist rule seen in China
By Tim Shorrock

WASHINGTON - Ian Buruma, a former fellow at the Woodrow Wilson Institute for the Humanities in Washington, and whose writings on Japanese politics and culture and the European fascination with Asia have captivated readers around the world, has now taken on the vast and complicated subject of China and what he sees as the impending collapse of a half-century of communist rule.

In his new book, Bad Elements: Among the Rebels, Dissidents and Democrats of Greater China, the London-based Buruma describes the world of the Chinese dissident and political prisoner, from the perspective of political activists based in mainland China, Taiwan and Singapore as well as the United States. Based on interviews conducted over five years, he argues that the Chinese regime in Beijing will inevitably fall because of corruption and the erosion of communism as its ruling ideology.

"Strange things happen from Chinese dynasties near their end," Buruma writes in the opening paragraph of his book. "Dams break, earthquakes hit, clouds appear in the shape of weird beasts, rain falls in odd colors and insects infect the countryside."

It is an ominous picture indeed.

Ominous, but justified, Buruma said. "Nobody believes in the dogma any more," he told a Washington forum organized by the Sasakawa Peace Foundation. "Communism is simply not enough to give the government any legitimacy."

Without an ideological glue to bind its rule to the people, Buruma said the Chinese government has resorted to traditional calls to preserve order and national interests and blatant appeals to materialism - namely, that its market-oriented economic policies can help "everyone get richer".

But that approach could, in the long run, present serious problems, because the free flow of goods and open capital markets often produce economic crises, such as the one that gripped most of East Asia just a few short years ago.

"A government without legitimacy is not well placed to cope with a crisis," he said. "Things could get very ugly indeed." The likelihood of unrest is strongest in rural China and among the urban unemployed, said Buruma, who has spent many years in Asia and studied in Japan.

In analyzing the ruling circles in mainland China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore, Buruma sees striking parallels in the intersection between politics and culture. Throughout greater China, he says, there is an assumption by the ruling parties that their special brand of politics - whether Marxist-Leninist in Beijing or free-market authoritarianism in Singapore - means that government is the guardian of Chinese institutions and tradition.

"The idea that strong authoritarian government is a barrier against chaos" runs strong in both China and Singapore, he said. And in Taiwan, the Kuomintang, the longtime ruling party made up of Chinese exiles who fled the mainland in 1949, "saw themselves as the true guardians of the Chinese traditions smashed by Mao [Zedong]".

"It's a kind of cosmic idea of politics that goes back centuries," Buruma said. Traditional Chinese rulers view themselves as "people who mediate between heaven and Earth" and protect Chinese ethics, culture and politics from outside forces. That makes it easy for them to criticize "dissidents as anti-Chinese".

Such thinking has profound implications for dissidents. "To be a rebel means not just being a political rebel but [being] a savior of Chinese civilization," he added.

In the long run, Buruma said, "the only guarantee of stability in China" is a "democratic, representative system".

Minxin Pei, a political scientist and a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said the "real challenge" for Chinese dissidents is to "find practical ways to institutionalize democratic traditions". Pei argued that while democratic pluralism is the preferred route to stability, there are dangers ahead as China approaches the transition from authoritarian to democratic rule. "The transition itself is fraught with upheaval," he said. "The current regime is poorly equipped to deal with a democratic transition. It hasn't really faced up to its misdeeds and atrocities over the past 50 years." As a result, Chinese-style glasnost "is likely to unleash a flood of recrimination and anger" that would be "destabilizing rather than enhancing stability", said Pei.

Part of the problem, he suggested, is that the Communist Party is in complete control of the Chinese state. "If the party were to collapse, there is a failed state, or there is no state."

Pei cast doubt on whether overseas Chinese dissidents have the political capability to become a force in a post-communist China. Because dissidents are uprooted from their mother country, he said, their "voices are muted" and their ability to sustain themselves as a political force are limited. At the same time, within the United States dissidents are divided into factions that rarely compromise, further limiting their political effectiveness.

"When a regime changes, they'd have to compete with other groups for power," he said of the overseas groups. When that happened in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union, he noted, the "Soviet exiles returned but quickly disappeared".

Dimon Liu, a US-based author who is one of those overseas dissidents, argued that a rapid transition to democracy is possible in China. "Anyone who argues for a slow transition is not a true democrat," she said. "If you're going to make a transition, make it quickly."




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1 posted on 12/03/2001 1:48:46 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: super175; Black Jade; backhoe; BERZERKER; B4Ranch
Comments?
2 posted on 12/03/2001 1:50:07 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Will post my thoughts shortly...
3 posted on 12/03/2001 1:51:06 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Highly doubtful, but anything is possible.
4 posted on 12/03/2001 1:53:11 PM PST by Feiny
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To: Enemy Of The State
My comment is thanks for posting this.

I had been going to post a couple reviews of it, one by John Derbyshire in Washington Times.

I've seen the book at the store and hope to read it.

From what I've read of Baruma in the past, he is a good writer.

5 posted on 12/03/2001 1:53:53 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: Enemy Of The State
The question is not if Communism in the PRC will end....of course it will..it's inevitable. The question is will it implode as did the USSR..or explode, in a war against Taiwan or even India.......The old men who rule the country may decide to role the dice....
6 posted on 12/03/2001 1:56:38 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Enemy Of The State
The kings of the east will march west to justify cracking down on dissent and distract the Chinease populace during war.
7 posted on 12/03/2001 1:57:18 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Enemy Of The State
The CCP is struggling as we speak. The need for political reform is going to be a major headache for them and already is.

There could be a number of scenarios; a big old collapse is possible, but also so is a purge of the extreme elements of the party that resist change. After that a moderate government who has no guile for Taiwan can make peace and implement changes.

Within 10 yrs something is going to happen.

8 posted on 12/03/2001 2:02:39 PM PST by super175
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To: ken5050
You asked the magic question there my friend.

There is a myth though that the China is 'one' or that the CCP is all of one mind.

9 posted on 12/03/2001 2:04:25 PM PST by super175
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To: ken5050
The question is will it implode as did the USSR..or explode, in a war against Taiwan or even India.......The old men who rule the country may decide to role the dice....

Considering the oversupply of males due to selective abortion of females, I'd say that war is very likely. Hopefully it will be one that stays within China's borders.

10 posted on 12/03/2001 2:08:46 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Hammerhead
"The kings of the east will march west to justify cracking down on dissent and distract the Chinease populace during war."

Ahh..yes..the age old Chicom bag of tricks. When all else fails, lets try the ol' nationalism rally. Well, fortunately times are changing and China is not the closed society that it once was and more & more people have access to information and education from the outside world and as this continues the Chicom methods of taking focus off of their internal failures by rallying nationalism will not continue to work forever. Its amazing how many Chinese nationals that I associate with at school who came here with the Idea that Capitalism was evil and that the American hedonists were the greatest threat to China and her people. After living here for some time and being able to educate themselves with the truth about the outside world (especially the west) they no longer the contempt for America that they once held before they came here.

11 posted on 12/03/2001 2:15:38 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Moonman62
"Considering the oversupply of males due to selective abortion of females, I'd say that war is very likely. Hopefully it will be one that stays within China's borders."

Im curious as to why you feel the imbalance between men and women in the Chinese culture could somehow lead to war? Please explain if you dont mind..

12 posted on 12/03/2001 2:17:05 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: super175
If the PRC ended tomorrow..we'd have 20+ new nations in the UN...If Indonesia fragments....golly....but the rulers of the PRC are all concerned with their own power, wealth, and indeed lives....they are all united in that focus......and because the median age is 90+ ( or close to it) they don't have much to lose.....that's the scary part.....
13 posted on 12/03/2001 2:18:34 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Enemy Of The State
In the extreme long term, what sort of government China has will not matter to us. In the short term it concerns me because I'd like to see one that would not attack Taiwan or execute theists for the horrible crime of mentioning that it wasn't very nice for the Chinese to steal their country... However, in the toward the end of this century when China's economy is much larger than ours and they wield more influence, they will go into an imperial phase. This will be true regardless of whether they are ruled by monarchs, a political party, a theocracy, a democracy, etc. etc. it just plain doesn't matter. The Chinese psychology of national humiliation will require them to reassert themselves as the world's foremost power. That's when we will have to fight them. And it will have nothing to do with whether their leaders were popularly elected or not.
14 posted on 12/03/2001 2:19:06 PM PST by American Soldier
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To: LSJohn; Hopalong

15 posted on 12/03/2001 2:21:30 PM PST by Askel5
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Business kills communism...
16 posted on 12/03/2001 2:22:12 PM PST by Ferris
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To: ken5050
Americans must stand firm and hang tough in the defense of Taiwan (Free China). Taiwan is the very Soul of China. The mainland Communists are aware of this, so they have refrained from attacking Taiwan. Keep Free China Free: today, forever and always!
17 posted on 12/03/2001 2:22:45 PM PST by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: Enemy Of The State
As I finally posted here a week or so ago, my interpretation of Bible prophecy is that China will be taken over by a westernized/Christianized minority (say 15%) of the population, which will govern for the best good of all, and there is thus grounds for optimism.

This is kind of a reverse Boxer rebellion, with the western ized and baptized, revolting against the nativist know nothings.

Another Sun Yat Sen, perhaps, is in the wings?

18 posted on 12/03/2001 2:23:09 PM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Not to belittle your opinion, but I seriously doubt that any internal or external struggle with regards to China will have anything to do with religion.
19 posted on 12/03/2001 2:27:01 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
nuke beijing now!
20 posted on 12/03/2001 2:29:19 PM PST by rockfish59
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