Who was in Israel first, the Jews or Palestinians

[alphadog]

look flame boy there is no proof your brain exsisted

[VaBthang4]

This post is proof, dink....any other brilliant observations on subjects you have absolutely no grasp of?

[alphadog]

Bible Huh?...what would expect...look I didn't want to step on anybody's core belief, but... your proof isn't.. and I won't take any crap anybody..Nite

[Bellflower]

ping

[Bellflower]

ping

[alphadog]

Any moron who deals with those AOL traiters...like you... can bite me... do you believe in the tooth fairy.

[VaBthang4]

"Bible Huh?...what would expect...look I didn't want to step on anybody's core belief, but... your proof isn't.. and I won't take any crap anybody..Nite"

Stepping on someone's Christian and Jewish beliefs was exactly your intent.

As far as not taking any crap then check yours at the door.

....nite.

[VaBthang4]

Wow...another profound post....you da mannnnnnn.

.....nite.

[Eternal_Bear]

If the Ashkenazim are more related to Europeans, what business do they have doing in the Semitic heartland? Palestinians have genetic ties to people there thousands of years ago and so do Jews.

[alphadog]

you started flingin "it"... and my intent was debate...get a haircut

[VaBthang4]

Then offer some facts...boring retort boy.

[crystalk]

And so do you and I. The only question is: Are Jews any more similar to Palestinians, or even AS similar to them, as to (say) Kurds, Afghans, Armenians, Turks, or residents of Mosul?

The answer is a resounding NO! Again I say, NO! The DNA studies exist.

[anapikoros]

Act 1 Scene 1

Somewhere in Jordan 1948

Abdul: Pst Muhamed.

Muhamed: Yeh, wassup.

A. Did you hear the UN is giving away free meal tickets and accomodation.

M. No kidding, where'd ya hear that.

A. Ali told me. Said all you have to do is register, tell em you're a refugee from other side of the river.

M. But I'm no refo.

A. I know that, but they don't.

M. Got no papers or nuttin.

A. Tell em those nasty Joos burnt your home and all your ID. They'll give you new papers anyhow.

M. Ya kiddin me - that's all I gotta do.

A. Yep, but don't forget to tell em you lived there for more than 2 years.

M. What you mean 2 years.

A. Stupid UN, they classify anyone who lived there for more than 2 years a refugee. Don't forget tell em about your extended family - chuck in a few extra kids, get extra ID's, so you get more rations.

Act 2. Same scene - 1998.

Abdul. Pst.. Muhamed

Muhamed. Yeh wassup

A. Aren't you glad I told you about this UN lurk 50 years ago.

M. Stupid UN, been feeding and sheltering me and my family all this time. Even my grandkids believe we are refos from the other side of the river.

A. Me. I picked up some extra ID's from dead relatives, the UN feeding them too. Been on easy street for 50 years, hope the UN never wakes up to the lurks.

[crystalk]

Post it, Prove it. If they can be at all of similar ethnic or DNA origin, why do they look so different in all ways?

Would have to see compelling evidence from you to accept this. Very, very, compelling.

[freebilly]

There are essentially no important difference between Palestinians and Jews. They are the same people. It's just that some are in different stages of hysteric denial.

Fundamentally we all have the same genetic code, but so what? The cultural and religious differences separating Jews and Palestinians are as great as the differences separating us from the Chinese.

As flawed as Israel is, it is still the only nation in the Middle East where the concepts of "democracy" and "freedom" exist. And because of these alien "western" ideas, the Islamic nations will never cease attacking the Jews.

The chicken or egg analogy is not useful in regards to Israel and Palestine. It's more along the lines of will these two fighting cocks every be able to peacefully exist, side by side.

My money says "NO."

[crystalk]

Yeah, exactly, and they WERE from the other side of the river--NILE!

Trouble is, they have multiplied from 630,000 total Arabs claiming origin in eretz yisroel, in 1948, to nearly 9 million today, and compounding every 9 mos and 5 minutes. Make that 2 minutes.

[freebilly]

It was every sinner that sent Jesus Christ to His death, which includes every person, which includes the Jews, and you, and me.

Amen and Amen

[Optimist]

The goal of Hamas and Islamic Jihad is NOT creation of a Palestinian state, but rather the absence of Israel (aka Jews) leaving for Palestinians the land, and infrastructure that Israel has developed from the deserts and swamps.

Unfortunately, the Palestinians have no experience forming, developing, and running a government (unless it's a third world tribal dictatorship), and whatever remains (not likely to be much if Israel is facing annihilation), will not last or ultimately benefit the people all this is supposed to be for.