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Who was in Israel first, the Jews or Palestinians

Posted on 12/05/2001 7:50:45 PM PST by 100American

Here are 20 conveniently overlooked facts that give some perspective to the current Middle East situation. These were compiled by a Christian university professor..... Takes just 1.5 minutes to read!!!

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 hundred times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees absorbed by Israel from Arab countries is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples'lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank and autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied their police and security forces with weapons.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Jewish grave markers were used to build public urinals in occupied Jerusalem. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The U.N. record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel -- notwithstanding the fact that the Arabs refused to participate in the 15 nation United Nations Commission of Palestine which recommended partition in 1948 and sought immediately to undo its work by force of arms.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians between 1948 and 1967.

19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives between 1948 and 1967.

20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967.


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: VaBthang4
look flame boy there is no proof your brain exsisted
61 posted on 12/05/2001 9:24:31 PM PST by alphadog
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To: alphadog
This post is proof, dink....any other brilliant observations on subjects you have absolutely no grasp of?
62 posted on 12/05/2001 9:27:43 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: BoomerBob
Bible Huh?...what would expect...look I didn't want to step on anybody's core belief, but... your proof isn't.. and I won't take any crap anybody..Nite
63 posted on 12/05/2001 9:29:09 PM PST by alphadog
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To: sjeann
ping
64 posted on 12/05/2001 9:29:20 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: sjeann
ping
65 posted on 12/05/2001 9:29:25 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: VaBthang4
Any moron who deals with those AOL traiters...like you... can bite me... do you believe in the tooth fairy.
66 posted on 12/05/2001 9:31:16 PM PST by alphadog
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To: alphadog
"Bible Huh?...what would expect...look I didn't want to step on anybody's core belief, but... your proof isn't.. and I won't take any crap anybody..Nite"

Stepping on someone's Christian and Jewish beliefs was exactly your intent.

As far as not taking any crap then check yours at the door.

....nite.

67 posted on 12/05/2001 9:32:43 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: alphadog
Wow...another profound post....you da mannnnnnn.

.....nite.

68 posted on 12/05/2001 9:33:45 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: crystalk
If the Ashkenazim are more related to Europeans, what business do they have doing in the Semitic heartland? Palestinians have genetic ties to people there thousands of years ago and so do Jews.
69 posted on 12/05/2001 9:35:09 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: VaBthang4
you started flingin "it"... and my intent was debate...get a haircut
70 posted on 12/05/2001 9:36:44 PM PST by alphadog
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To: alphadog
Then offer some facts...boring retort boy.
72 posted on 12/05/2001 9:40:25 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Eternal_Bear
And so do you and I. The only question is: Are Jews any more similar to Palestinians, or even AS similar to them, as to (say) Kurds, Afghans, Armenians, Turks, or residents of Mosul?

The answer is a resounding NO! Again I say, NO! The DNA studies exist.

73 posted on 12/05/2001 9:41:50 PM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Act 1 Scene 1

Somewhere in Jordan 1948

Abdul: Pst Muhamed.

Muhamed: Yeh, wassup.

A. Did you hear the UN is giving away free meal tickets and accomodation.

M. No kidding, where'd ya hear that.

A. Ali told me. Said all you have to do is register, tell em you're a refugee from other side of the river.

M. But I'm no refo.

A. I know that, but they don't.

M. Got no papers or nuttin.

A. Tell em those nasty Joos burnt your home and all your ID. They'll give you new papers anyhow.

M. Ya kiddin me - that's all I gotta do.

A. Yep, but don't forget to tell em you lived there for more than 2 years.

M. What you mean 2 years.

A. Stupid UN, they classify anyone who lived there for more than 2 years a refugee. Don't forget tell em about your extended family - chuck in a few extra kids, get extra ID's, so you get more rations.

Act 2. Same scene - 1998.

Abdul. Pst.. Muhamed

Muhamed. Yeh wassup

A. Aren't you glad I told you about this UN lurk 50 years ago.

M. Stupid UN, been feeding and sheltering me and my family all this time. Even my grandkids believe we are refos from the other side of the river.

A. Me. I picked up some extra ID's from dead relatives, the UN feeding them too. Been on easy street for 50 years, hope the UN never wakes up to the lurks.

74 posted on 12/05/2001 9:43:57 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: plastic
Post it, Prove it. If they can be at all of similar ethnic or DNA origin, why do they look so different in all ways?

Would have to see compelling evidence from you to accept this. Very, very, compelling.

75 posted on 12/05/2001 9:45:50 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Elihu Burritt
There are essentially no important difference between Palestinians and Jews. They are the same people. It's just that some are in different stages of hysteric denial.

Fundamentally we all have the same genetic code, but so what? The cultural and religious differences separating Jews and Palestinians are as great as the differences separating us from the Chinese.

As flawed as Israel is, it is still the only nation in the Middle East where the concepts of "democracy" and "freedom" exist. And because of these alien "western" ideas, the Islamic nations will never cease attacking the Jews.

The chicken or egg analogy is not useful in regards to Israel and Palestine. It's more along the lines of will these two fighting cocks every be able to peacefully exist, side by side.

My money says "NO."

76 posted on 12/05/2001 9:48:26 PM PST by freebilly
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To: anapikoros
Yeah, exactly, and they WERE from the other side of the river--NILE!

Trouble is, they have multiplied from 630,000 total Arabs claiming origin in eretz yisroel, in 1948, to nearly 9 million today, and compounding every 9 mos and 5 minutes. Make that 2 minutes.

77 posted on 12/05/2001 9:49:08 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Silly
It was every sinner that sent Jesus Christ to His death, which includes every person, which includes the Jews, and you, and me.

Amen and Amen

78 posted on 12/05/2001 9:52:56 PM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly
The goal of Hamas and Islamic Jihad is NOT creation of a Palestinian state, but rather the absence of Israel (aka Jews) leaving for Palestinians the land, and infrastructure that Israel has developed from the deserts and swamps.

Unfortunately, the Palestinians have no experience forming, developing, and running a government (unless it's a third world tribal dictatorship), and whatever remains (not likely to be much if Israel is facing annihilation), will not last or ultimately benefit the people all this is supposed to be for.

79 posted on 12/05/2001 9:58:59 PM PST by Optimist
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