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Nobel prize winners slam US policies
Reuters via SA Independent ^ | 12/7/01

Posted on 12/07/2001 5:03:42 PM PST by NativeNewYorker

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To: NativeNewYorker
More than 100 Nobel laureates have signed an appeal criticising the climate change and missile defence policies of the United States under President George W Bush.

Which re-affirms my belief that the Bush stance is the correct one. Bunch of socialist pigs!

21 posted on 12/07/2001 6:07:02 PM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: NativeNewYorker
How can such brilliant minds be mere inches away from such foolish mouths?
22 posted on 12/07/2001 6:12:35 PM PST by yooper
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To: Gorzaloon
Actually, mine seem to be generally welcome here.

Mine too...
(Not quite yet a full-fledged chemist, though, but an undergrad :-))

23 posted on 12/07/2001 6:20:51 PM PST by jude24
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To: NativeNewYorker
Advice to the Nobel Laureates...Take the money...shut up and run. Nobody cares who you are and by next week very few will remember who you are.
24 posted on 12/07/2001 6:24:28 PM PST by Don Corleone
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To: Alas Babylon!
I agree. Although in addition to giving their money to the poor masses of the world they should also move to these poor countries and help first hand. Of course, putting your money, or way of life, where your mouth is ain't always easy. Bozos!
25 posted on 12/07/2001 6:24:49 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: NativeNewYorker
Implementing NMD would violate the ABM treaty. Polyani said the September 11 attacks on the United States had shown that national missile shields could not offer complete protection.

by the same reasoning, let's take seat belts and air bags out of autos; they do not offer complete protection, either.

26 posted on 12/07/2001 6:29:20 PM PST by ken21
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To: NativeNewYorker
and disenfranchised majority

Floridians?

27 posted on 12/07/2001 6:32:37 PM PST by riley1992
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To: KantianBurke
More formally, if person A is not qualified to make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.

Not quite: then the argument may be still be valid --- randomy, perhaps. Remember that infoumous broken clock that shows time correctly twice a day?

Sincerey yours,
Nietzschean Jefferson.

28 posted on 12/07/2001 6:33:07 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: ken21
by the same reasoning, let's take seat belts and air bags out of autos; they do not offer complete protection, either.

Yes, lets have our government give us complete protection. (Soft walled cells for us all)

A big yes I agree to all on this thread who could care less what 100 Nobel prize winners think. Also remember that Alfred Nobel established his prize with the money he made for the discovery of high explosives.

29 posted on 12/07/2001 6:39:09 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: NativeNewYorker
The USA has done more good for the globe than the rest of the nations put together. Screw 'em. None are as blind as those who won't see. Those guys can go back and tinker with their test tubes and story books.
30 posted on 12/07/2001 6:40:03 PM PST by oyez
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To: oyez
Rush L said today that Mars is warming, and ice areas are melting. Anyone hear more about this? He stressed that the SUN is surely causing any warming currently. He said there are no SUV's on Mars.
31 posted on 12/07/2001 6:48:04 PM PST by Minnesota Lady
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To: TopQuark
By that logic, any idiot's opinion on atmospheric physics and geo-political security would have some level of veracity! Sorry but unless one has an educated background in specific subjects they should be derided for speaking out about things they know nothing about.
32 posted on 12/07/2001 6:55:03 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Minnesota Lady
He said there are no SUV's on Mars.

Actually there is at least one. The Mars Rover. But it's pretty "green" and quite small, using solar power I believe to charge batteries. The Russians/Soviets may have something there with wheels, but I can't recall one way or another. Knowing them, if they do, it probably used a nuclear reactor, or a thermoionic generator, which still uses nuclear fuel, but only decay processes not a chain reaction, sort of like trititum sights.

33 posted on 12/07/2001 7:00:07 PM PST by El Gato
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To: NativeNewYorker
I lived in Red Hook in Brooklyn and in other parts of Brooklyn when I was a younger person, starving artist and rock and roll drummer and I loved Brooklyn. Brooklyn is Great. Great Italians and great Italian food and groceries.

But isn't Chuckie Schumer from there? Boo, hiss!

34 posted on 12/07/2001 7:12:09 PM PST by garyhope
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To: jude24
Actually, mine seem to be generally welcome here. Mine too... (Not quite yet a full-fledged chemist, though, but an undergrad :-))

Chemist are the Freeper's Friends!

We expose nonsense like "Depleted Uranium", Anthrax Cures, Kyoto Hysteria, Hydrogen Energy (Winner of the "Pull It, Sir" Award for Science Fiction) -I should know, I worked on DoE contracts in this field and attended the seminars!

We offer a counterbalance to the idiocy disseminated by "Journalists" who avoided Science courses at all costs.

There are no Cliff Notes for Science.

35 posted on 12/08/2001 4:45:21 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: KantianBurke
By that logic, any idiot's opinion on atmospheric physics and geo-political security would have some level of veracity!

From the standpoint of logic, yes! When you studied algebraic equations, for instance, your teacher probably pointed out that one way to solve an equation is... to guess the values of the roots. I may not be a historian at all, but when asked, "In what year did the Turks cocur Constantinople?", I may start guessing and come up with an answer: "1453." Which happens to be correct.

The reason people would not typically consult me about history is not the lack of logical possibilities. Rather, it is that the expected value of my answers is low. Since I am not an expert, the chances of my answers to be correct are slim. In contrast, a historian, although not perfect, gives us a high expectation of accuracy. That is why we utilize experts --- in professions, in courts, etc.

In sum, the reason lie not in logic but in the economics of our behavior: the costs of disregarding expertise are too high.

36 posted on 12/08/2001 5:32:49 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Aside from the fact that Global warming, if it exists, is most likely a result of changes in solar output. It is funny that the people who fret about our collective energy consumption, consume vast amounts of energy flying around the world, to congratulate each other, and lecture the peons about our profligate energy consumption.

I'm guessing the Nobel Lauerate Milton Freidman didn't sign this document.

37 posted on 12/08/2001 5:45:23 AM PST by Leto
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To: NativeNewYorker
More than 100 Nobel laureates have signed an appeal criticising the climate change and missile defence policies of the United States under President George W Bush.

THe smart asses who isolate America, they do not know what they are doing. Smart asses got their laureate wings through stubborness, and their unrepenting stubborness and their stubborn stupidity are showing big time.

38 posted on 12/08/2001 5:49:32 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: NativeNewYorker
Um, how many of these Nobel losers got their prizes in science, and how many got theirs for literature, world peace, whatever? I think that should have been in the article. Then again I don't think you win the Nobel in science anymore for bucking the establishment, do you?
39 posted on 12/08/2001 5:51:40 AM PST by JenB
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To: garyhope
Chuckie was the Congressman for my old Brooklyn neighborhood til he evicted Damato to become the Empire State's Senior Senator.

His politics are loathesome, to be sure, but he at least "represents" in a literal sense, his constituents.

ThatWoman (D-NY) OTOH couldn't find Flatbush Avenue if her pathetic existence depended on it.

40 posted on 12/08/2001 4:31:13 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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