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Grange Supports High Speed Internet Access for Rural America
The National Grange ^ | Dec. 3, 2001 | Richard Weiss

Posted on 12/11/2001 11:59:04 AM PST by farmfriend

Grange Supports High Speed Internet Access for Rural America

(Washington, DC) December 3, 2001--One hundred years ago this year, the Grange was instrumental in winning Rural Free Delivery Mail service. That legislation opened vast new opportunities for communication and commerce for millions of Americans living on our nation’s farms and in rural communities. Today, the Grange wants to celebrate that victory by supporting HR 1542, the Internet Freedom and Development Act of 2001, legislation that will help bring high speed Internet access to rural America.

“The Grange believes that rural Americans deserve access to the same basic public and commercial services that urban Americans enjoy. Advanced telecommunications services, such as high speed internet access is one of those basic services. However, misguided government regulation is keeping those of us in rural areas from taking full advantage of E-commerce,” stated Leroy Watson, National Grange Legislative Affairs Director. H.R. 1542 would help address this problem by mandating rapid deployment of high speed internet services by local phone companies to large and small communities alike. Representatives Billy Tauzin (R-LA) and John Dingell (D-MI) co-sponsored the legislation, which is commonly called the Tauzin-Dingell Bill.

Currently, the Telecommunications Act of 1996 requires local telephone companies to share their infrastructure with broadband competitors such as AT&T but not visa-versa. The 1996 law was enacted to prevent local telephone companies from monopolizing local voice communications. It had nothing to do with Internet services. The result is that telephone companies are discouraged from making the investment necessary to compete in the high speed Internet market. That leaves unregulated cable/broadband companies, like AT&T, virtually without competition. These companies have ignored rural America for more lucrative urban markets. According to U.S. government data, fewer than 5 percent of Americans in towns with 10,000 or fewer residents have broadband access. Only one percent of citizens have broadband access in towns of 2,500 or less.

The National Grange supports the Tauzin-Dingell Bill because it will break down the regulatory barriers preventing local telephone companies from providing broadband Internet service to their existing rural customers. “The adoption of Rural Free Delivery Mail service in 1901 set the precedent for universal service, or the idea that rural Americans were entitled to receive the same level and quality of public and commercial service that people in urban areas receive. Today, the Internet Freedom and Development Act of 2001 extends that idea one step further, to include universal access to advanced telecommunications technologies to all Americans regardless of where they live. Access to broadband Internet will be as important to rural America in the 21st century as universal mail and telephone service has been in the century just completed,” Watson stated.

The National Grange is the country’s oldest rural advocacy organization. It was founded in 1867. The Grange has been instrumental in passing legislation benefiting not just farmers, but all rural Americans. It focuses on the basics of rural infrastructure such as health care, education and communications. The Grange has approximately 300,000 individual members affiliated with 3,400 local, county and state Granges throughout 37 states. # # # #


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To: SierraWasp; GVgirl; marsh2; forester
These people all think I'm a RAT now. Oh well.
21 posted on 12/11/2001 12:33:12 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
ping
22 posted on 12/11/2001 12:34:00 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
This is a Democratic political issue, first brought to the fore by Bill Clinton and his lackeys.

In North Carolina, former Clinton Chief of Staffer Erskine Bowles returned to NC and set up something called the "Rural Prosperity Task Force" to involve leaders from all across the State to back Clinton's assertion that there was a so-called "digital divide." (What it was is another gimmick to establish a political base)

The fact of the matter is that rural areas in North Carolina already have access to the Internet, and in many remote rural areas, DSL is being provided by the Rural Cooperatives, who have been bringing advanced technologies to rural people since the 1950's.

For more information, visit the web site of www.jsitel.com (a consulting firm to the telecommunications industry), the National Telephone Cooperative Association www.ntca.org, or www.carolinalink.org, a North Carolina coalition of rural cooperatives.

Rural people in some of the most backwoods areas of North Carolina and other states can get DSL, while Verizon customers near Washington, D.C., and other major cities are still waiting.

23 posted on 12/11/2001 12:34:37 PM PST by loveliberty
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To: farmfriend
DSL won't work on Fiber Optic. Only copper. The problem in rural areas is that the Central Offices are too far apart to be able to provide DSL or ADSL. High speed access will come to rural areas some time. If not DSL it will be some other broad band technology. There are manufacturing plants that are beginning to locate in rural areas because of the friendlier atmosphere. They need the higher speed but may not be able to justify the expense of T1 or better. In the mean time we will be patient and sit on our porches watching the sun set and the horses graze and put up with speeds in the 14K - 44K range.
24 posted on 12/11/2001 12:38:38 PM PST by bibarnes
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To: farmfriend
The only solution I found is 2 way satellite.
I am in a rural area and DSL or Cable will never reach here.
The phone lines are very poor when it rains a lot.
I got starband.net in July and am VERY pleased with it.
25 posted on 12/11/2001 12:40:44 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
As a technology guy in a rural area, I can tell you that the local telcos are not going to help us. There are many technologies on the horizon - everything from wireless broadband, to ip over power lines, to improved satellite service. I am on 2-way satellite right now (starband) and next year I will definitely switch to wild blue. More are on the way.
26 posted on 12/11/2001 12:48:17 PM PST by mrjeff
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To: loveliberty; Leroy S. Mort
This Bill provides limited interLATA data relief to Bell companies for the purpose of hauling data over the Internet backbone networks so this area of the Internet is subject to increased competition.
27 posted on 12/11/2001 12:48:30 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: bibarnes
I miss spoke about the fiber optics. See post 27.
28 posted on 12/11/2001 12:49:59 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
I support the idea. I believe it's a valid function of the government
Section 8. The Congress shall have power...
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts...
29 posted on 12/11/2001 12:51:18 PM PST by arielb
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Satellite isn't a viable alternative because its latency is too high due to the distance from the earth of the satellites.

There is a plan to deploy Low Earth Orbit satellite systems, which will address this problem. I don't know yet if they will market directly to rural residents, however.

Also, there is equipment available which allows 128 kpbs on a 120,000 (!) foot loop. Unfortunately, it has not been widely adopted.

30 posted on 12/11/2001 12:52:39 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: arielb
Do you generally think the government should pay for things the market is rejecting?

I am surprised you did not cite the general welfare clause.

31 posted on 12/11/2001 12:55:10 PM PST by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
market is rejecting?

The market is not rejecting this. The market is asking for specific deregulation in exchange they will be required to upgrade central office equipment to provide high-speed access.

32 posted on 12/11/2001 12:58:53 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
I have no issue with you; I think your proposal is reasonable enough. I was responding to another chap who thinks we should kick in a few dollars...
33 posted on 12/11/2001 1:00:25 PM PST by JohnGalt
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To: loveliberty
This is a Democratic political issue, first brought to the fore by Bill Clinton and his lackeys.

H.R.1542 Sponsor: Rep Tauzin, W. J. (Billy)(introduced 4/24/2001)

And just where did you get your information?

34 posted on 12/11/2001 1:04:08 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: B Knotts
Actually, it looks like it's even better now...GoDigital is now selling equipment that can do 1.5 mbps up to 100,000 ft.!

Unfortunately, the telcos have little interest in this, I'm afraid.

35 posted on 12/11/2001 1:04:53 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: farmfriend
Tech Central Station.com has published much on this subject over the last several months. They don't think much of Tauzin's bill.
36 posted on 12/11/2001 1:08:34 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: B Knotts
Nitpicking self...should be 1.5 Mbps...
37 posted on 12/11/2001 1:09:42 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: farmfriend
In the early part of the 20th century, didn't the federal government mandate that electricity and phone lines had to be run to rural customers no matter how far they lived out in the boonies? Didn't this result in the advantages and conveniences of electricity and phone service being available to everyone in the country regardless of where they lived?
38 posted on 12/11/2001 1:16:19 PM PST by meia
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To: farmfriend
Anybody know the command string to get a Hayes modem to dial two longs and a short?
39 posted on 12/11/2001 1:22:35 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: farmfriend
The market is not rejecting this. The market is asking for specific deregulation in exchange they will be required to upgrade central office equipment to provide high-speed access.

In theory it sounds like a good idea. But I question 1) whether the technology exists and 2) whether the Telcos can make a buck from it. What I DON'T want to see is something like the telephone charge we all now pay to support rural telephone service. Folks in the hinterlands can limp along at 44K forever before I'd support that.

40 posted on 12/11/2001 1:25:01 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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