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After-Action Report: IAC Meeting, Manhattan
Self | 12/14/01 | hellinahandcart

Posted on 12/14/2001 7:39:08 AM PST by hellinahandcart

Last week we were notified of an IAC event right here in town, featuring Ramsey Clark and the usual suspects. This is a group I had never heard of before last year; but, after catching their post 9/11 act on C-Span (that rather large anti-war, bash-America and "Free Mumia" fest in DC), and countering their much-smaller Oct 7 rally in Union square, I definitely feel like I know them. And don't like them! So, some of us thought that crashing the meeting was definitely in order. I knew that Nitro and KLT had made already plans to meet in the neighborhood, and fortunately I was able to join them.

We met up at around 5:30 for a strategy session. After a few adult beverages, we managed to reach consensus--there would be no "plan". We would simply show up, pay our fee, and rely on what was said to motivate one of us to speak up.

We were winging it, in other words. There was no "first I'll say this, and then *you* jump up and say that" under discussion. We didn't rehearse. About the only advance preparation came from Nitro, who had purchased an American flag for the occasion in case he felt the need to unfurl it at the meeting. So we left the bar and , with no real plan of action, walked to the Community Church of New York on 35th St.

The meeting was in the basement, and I am sad to report that , by the time we got there, it was standing room only. I estimate there were about 300 people there. We were first asked "were we on their mailing list", which I hadn't anticipated; I took it to be a sort of "screening" question, and in retrospect perhaps we should have said yes, but I think they were already well aware that we didn't really belong there. Nitro was wearing a Navy cap, KLT was wearing a faux fur, and I has a cross around my neck that I forgot to tuck under my shirt. So much for infiltrating; we stood out like sore thumbs. We paid our donation and walked in, past a long table of pamphlets and flyers, and books by and about Mumia Abul-Jamal. KLT took a chair in the last row, Nitro and I ended up in the very back, in a doorway to the coatroom/hallway/exit.

It was quite crowded. I observed that most people there were (a) white and (b)either under 30 or over 60.

One of the older women at the book table knocked over a stack of fliers, I picked them up and handed them to her, and she thanked me. I had one more encounter with this woman before the evening was over. And it was over sooner than I ever would have guessed.

A man I believe I had seen speaking at the DC protest took the microphone up front. It was the usual stuff you hear at these things--the bombing is hurting people, the Bush administration's "war on terrorism" has institutionalized racial profiling and unjust imprisonment here in the U.S., yada yada. Wish I'd brought a tape recorder, so I could transcribe his exact words. But I do remember him saying that "we should take George Bush at his word" when he says he intends to pursue and uproot terrorists organizations wherever they exist in the world--oddly, he didn't seem to think that was a GOOD thing at all. He thought it was downright sinister. He said, "We must stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Somalia, Colombia, Vieques, and Korea--"

Nitro piped up with "You mean North Korea". Heads turned. Dirty looks in our direction.

The speaker continued with "George Bush could possibly invade all these countries".

Nitro said "Sounds good to me" and began clapping.

The next sequence of events took place over a period of about fifteen seconds. Nitro was politely asked to leave by a soft-spoken young man, while the other men standing at the back began moving in his direction. At that point Nitro took his new flag out of his jacket and began ripping the plastic off of it (note to anyone who does this in the future, take the plastic off beforehand, it'll save time). The sight of the Stars & Stripes had a remarkable effect on those present. No sooner did he have it unfurled than at least four people tried to tear it way from him, while several others were physically propelling him into the back hallway. That flag was pulled in so many directions I was sure they were trying to rip it--but it was nylon, and defeated their efforts. They finally got it out of his hands after shoving him into the coatrack, and as I was following, the whole gaggle shoved him in my direction and I ended up being briefly pinned against the other wall. They kept pushing him toward the stairs--I heard Nitro say "I had a HAT when I came in here, guys" and realized that his cap must have been knocked off, but I wasn't about to look for it then. I didn't want to take my eyes off the people who were shoving him up the stairs and out the door.

As I was on my way to the exit, the woman who had knocked over the flyers stopped me and handed me the flag, which she had folded up. I thought that was nice of her.

KLT had been left behind in the auditorium, and we had to wait until she came out to find out what happened while we were being "escorted" out. Apparently we stood out more than even I realized, because, according to KLT, the speaker at the microphone said "There's one more" and everyone pointed to her. I thought that was odd, as this guy certainly didn't see her come in, but the people working the desk had probably passed the word along that we looked like trouble.

So KLT said "You people should be ashamed of yourselves; have you been to Ground Zero?" She was told "Your friends are waiting for you outside--get out and don't come back." She said "I wouldn't come back here, you people are *crazy*", and left. Someone handed Nitro's cap to her on her way out.

And that, as they say, was that.


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We went to another local tavern afterward for a little celebration. I have Nitro's flag in my possession, and will bring it to the next freep event--it's had battle experience already, and emerged unscathed.
1 posted on 12/14/2001 7:39:08 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: KLT; Nitro
Are we all okay this morning? :P
2 posted on 12/14/2001 7:40:40 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Dave Dilegge; rmlew; OneidaM; Silly; Cool Guy; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; firebrand; Incorrigible...
Hung-over ping...
3 posted on 12/14/2001 7:46:46 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Thanks for the ping. Good going, you guys. Did anyone go to Cooper Union to hear what Jesse Jackson and Paul Begala had to say?
4 posted on 12/14/2001 7:58:55 AM PST by firebrand
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To: hellinahandcart
This group have any money? -- sounds like lawsuit material.
5 posted on 12/14/2001 8:05:36 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: hellinahandcart
Yes I am a wee bit hungover, but I have plenty of Coca-cola and a pizza is on the way!!

A good time was had by all!!

6 posted on 12/14/2001 8:09:22 AM PST by Nitro
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To: firebrand
I haven't heard from anyone about the Cooper Union thing; actually I haven't heard anything at all about what happened, not even a press release. It would be interesting to hear what went on in there. But I just couldn't do two freeps in one week. I had to choose between losers whining about the 2000 election and losers whining about this "racist war", figured the latter group had a trendier topic and deserved my attention more.
7 posted on 12/14/2001 8:29:47 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: OneidaM; Ms. AntiFeminazi
fyi
8 posted on 12/14/2001 8:43:53 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Lawsuit? Eh... Wouldn't be worth it, I suspect. I sustained more physical damage at the bar afterward, believe me.
9 posted on 12/14/2001 8:46:38 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
I killed a few brain cells myself!!
10 posted on 12/14/2001 9:10:03 AM PST by Nitro
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To: hellinahandcart; KLT; Nitro
Infiltrating the BELLY OF THE BEAST -- Nice job of shakin' things up! BTW -- Are paint-ball guns legal in NYC ;-)?

Yeah, too bad you didn't have a tape recorder -- no telling what kind of anti-Americn rhetoric Ramsey Clark might have regurgitated. What a bunch of mutants...

11 posted on 12/14/2001 9:36:47 AM PST by F16Fighter
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Slightly off-topic, but I took a few flyers from the church as well. Here's one:

WELCOME
to Community Church of New York
a liberal option

Ours is a free church, dedicated to the search for truth and the love of humankind.
We believe in knowledge, for there is no help in ignorance...
in reason, for without it we surrender to the blind forces of falsehood and prejudice...
in compassion, for revenge and hatred destroy the spirit...
in love, for it is life's most creative power...
in community, for none flourishes alone.
There is no dogma in this church. We seek to grow in the search for truth, knowing that there is no end to its revelation.
We seek fulfillment of our highest hopes, our deepest needs, in this beloved community where no one is a stranger.
(affiliated with the Unitarian Universalist Association)

There's more in the same vein. You could go blind trying to find the word "God" in their reading material.

12 posted on 12/14/2001 9:58:26 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: F16Fighter
LOL, we only survived about three minutes into the program. I imagine Ramsey Clark was going to talk about how this whole thing is about oil (yawn), since that's what many of his articles on the IAC website seem to say. The stuff on that site is insane, and they believe every word of it. They've gone way past the standard "it's our fault, we deserved it" nonsense, they really believe America is the villain in every situation.

And no matter what situation they're discussing, they always manage to make it about Mumia Abu-Jamal and Vieques at the same time. If we were to invade Venus they'd find a way to relate it to the "oppression" of their brothers in Vieques. What IS it with these characters and Vieques?

13 posted on 12/14/2001 10:08:43 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Thanks for the Ping.
14 posted on 12/14/2001 10:11:14 AM PST by Cool Guy
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To: hellinahandcart; KLT; Nitro
Standing ovation for you three - way to go - took a lot of courage to go into the "belly of the beast" - and I know those IAC goons hate it when someone "rains on their parade". Good show and EAGLES UP!
15 posted on 12/14/2001 10:16:50 AM PST by VaMarVet
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To: Dave Dilegge
It was actually alot of fun!

As usual just the sight of the good ole' Stars and Stripes sent them into a violent frenzy! Still it took a least half-a-dozen of those limp-wristed commies to hustle me out!!</bragging off>

16 posted on 12/14/2001 10:25:28 AM PST by Nitro
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To: hellinahandcart
This organization is not about the truth; Dissention is one thing, but this is clearly an enemy camp operating within our borders with the overt mission to topple and destroy everything America stands for. This is an infestation that needs "treatment."
17 posted on 12/14/2001 10:28:57 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Dave Dilegge
You know, even though this is a city of eight million, I just plain RESENT the fact that they're able to get 300+ people together in one room. Just seems like more than our fair share of commies, frankly. Grrr.
18 posted on 12/14/2001 10:33:19 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
A man I believe I had seen speaking at the DC protest took the microphone up front. It was the usual stuff you hear at these things--the bombing is hurting people, the Bush administration's "war on terrorism" has institutionalized racial profiling and unjust imprisonment here in the U.S., yada yada. But I do remember him saying that "we should take George Bush at his word" when he says he intends to pursue and uproot terrorists organizations wherever they exist in the world--oddly, he didn't seem to think that was a GOOD thing at all. He thought it was downright sinister. He said, "We must stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Somalia, Colombia, Vieques, and Korea--"

Oh, what a bunch of leftist puke!

19 posted on 12/14/2001 10:36:46 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Kristinn; angelwood; tgslTakoma; leadpenny; ironman; GunsareOK; Jimmy Valentine’s brother...
Operation Infinite FReep Ping and Eagle's Up!
20 posted on 12/14/2001 10:39:20 AM PST by VaMarVet
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