Posted on 12/18/2001 4:10:48 PM PST by Pokey78
They can make up any story that they wish in order to beguile you, and it don't count in their religion.
He is with the plumber who gives the woman in Idaho the price to fix her leak based on the 45 minutes it will actually take him, the bus driver in New Jersey who waits for the rider to cross a busy street, even the lawyer who goes to court truly believing their client is innocent and wants to prove it.
This debate is immaterial to the issue of whether Islam is anti-Christian/Judism.
The fact that this article tries to paint Islam as a Jesus sympathetic relegion is propostoruous.
Jesus didn't suggest that if you were to die in his quest for phophetism you would get 72 virgins or young boys to serve you in Heaven. Nor did he suggest that you should kill "infidels" (non-Jesus believers) "Wherever you find them". Or solicit and condone the killing of non-mohamad believering women and children then say, "two goats won't butt there heads about her," to a self confessed killer.
Like it or not this is a relegious war, based on the beliefs of the FUNDLEMENTALIST, NON-TOLERANT Muslims.THEY HAVE DECLARED WAR ON ALL NON-ISLAMIC PEOPLE ON EARTH.
IMO th Quaran is like the bible in reverse, soulful at the beginning, punitive and regulatory at the end. Martydom and the like is a fantasy reward based on sex, fruit an water. Maybe a 1000 years ago it made sense in the desert community when Mohammed went shopping for support as a prophet.
The extemist view of the Islamic terrist is the same as the Nazi's.
Until the Islamic relegion answers these difficult question regarding their prophets call for killing infidels and innocent people, this will nerver end.
Unlike the Christian relegion, Mohamadism begins and ends with Mohamad. Christ lives in the heart and soul of everone forever, whethter as the Son of God, Messenger, or "Good Man".
I am afraid that I can't let the good doctor off so easily as you did. You are quite a good sport.
Doc, you claim that there was another possibility besides LIAR, LUNATIC, or LORD and that was that Jesus was simply MISTAKEN about His own divinity.
If so, I can certainly see how He got confused about it! After all, He gave sight to the blind, cleansed lepers, walked on water, calmed storms with a word, raised the dead, and rose from the dead Himself.
This was not like todays TV preachers. Not even his enemies tried to deny His miracles, they just said He did it by the power of the Devil instead of God the Father.
Was He MISTAKEN about being raised from the dead? Was he just extremely lucky that He laid hands on sick people just when they were about to get better all by themselves?
The MISTAKEN option is not a viable one. What else have you got to throw in the way of accepting the inconvienent Truth? That is- Jesus is just who HE claimed to be and died for your sins.
You may not wish to accept His claims on your life, but He spoke the Truth, it is in His word for you to read today, and only by accepting His love will you be saved, only by rejecting it will one be "doomed".
This assertion is meaningless. There is more divergency then there will ever be commonality. Moroever, Islam was based on Christian and Jewish notions and yet fundamentally is different. The Jihad is central to Islam for example.It was for 13 centuries or so and still is in many Islamic groups as can plainly be seen. The Jihad has nothing in common with Christian principles nor with principles developed in Judaism down through the centuries.
Moreover, the assertion "Muslims love Jesus as much as Christians" is wholly a patronizing notion. In point of fact, Islam nearly wiped out Eastern Christianity. If Islam loved Christ so much it wouldn't have destroyed whole Christian communities. It wouldn't have dhimmiized and oppressed Christians for centuries. It wouldn't have kidnapped Christian children, and made them Islamic killers as were the Janissaries. It wouldn't have enslaved Christians in Asia Minor, Spain, the Balkans, etc. Islam has never been good for Christianity and it's insulting to suggest any kind of convergence or agreement except in the most oblique ways.
The exhortation to "try the spirits" by the Apostle Paul is a call to believers to try them, since they have the ability to through the Holy Spirit.
The spiritually dead cannot discern. Nothing dead can discern, only exist as a corpse. A corpse, even if it is walking and talking.
LOL I thought Bill Clinton was a lunatic, but I don't think he was a good man.
Or so it was claimed by others.
Lots of people claim lots of things, especially decades after the fact.
This was not like todays TV preachers. Not even his enemies tried to deny His miracles, they just said He did it by the power of the Devil instead of God the Father.
You should read more history.
This is certainly true of orthodox (not just Orthodox) Christianity. But an old, and formerly very powerful Chrisian heresey -- Arianism, agrees with Islam on this. Started by the Byzantine Bishop Arius, it was very popular in the Eastern Roman Empire during the 4th century, then was successfully fought by mainline Christians, led by the Pope of Rome, among others.
The great Church Council at Nicea, presided over by the Emperor Constantine had as a main purpose the making of a decision on the divinity of Christ. It produced the Nicene Creed, which virtually all Christians accept today ('True God and True Man'). The heresy was destroyed in the Empire. Unfortunately many of the German tribes, including the East and West Goths, and the Franks were converted by Arian missionaries in the meantime. When they took control of the provinces of the Western Empire, they actively persecuted Christians who accepted the Creed.
Eventually they all converted to mainline Christianity, but much damage had been done to the fabric of society, and Spain was so weakened, since Arianism was not eliminated until the 6th century, that its defeat by the Moors was made much easier.
In a sense, then, Islam could be considered to be a heresy of Christian Arianism.
Because to the extent that Muslims can be considered to be heretics of Arian Christianity (see above), this conflict can be looked at as a civil war between the People of the Book. As our Confederate friends can assure us, a civil war is much more bitter than a war between strangers.
It's amazing to me that those who claim no interest in Christ as Lord spend so much of their time talking about their lack of interest in Him.
Don't feel singled out.
:o)
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