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The Public School Nightmare
THE KOSSOR EDUCATION NEWSLETTER ^ | 1996 | John Taylor Gatto

Posted on 12/19/2001 8:15:00 AM PST by toenail

The Public School Nightmare:
Why fix a system designed to destroy individual thought?
by John Taylor Gatto

I want you to consider the frightening possibility that we are spending far too much money on schooling, not too little. I want you to consider that we have too many people employed in interfering with the way children grow up--and that all this money and all these people, all the time we take out of children's lives and away from their homes and families and neighbourhoods and private explorations--gets in the way of education.

That seems radical, I know. Surely in modern technological society it is the quantity of schooling and the amount of money you spend on it that buys value. And yet last year in St. Louis, I heard a vice-president of IBM tell an audience of people assembled to redesign the process of teacher certification that in his opinion this country became computer-literate by self-teaching, not through any action of schools. He said 45 million people were comfortable with computers who had learned through dozens of non-systematic strategies, none of them very formal; if schools had pre-empted the right to teach computer use we would be in a horrible mess right now instead of leading the world in this literacy. Now think about Sweden, a beautiful, healthy, prosperous and up-to-date country with a spectacular reputation for quality in everything it produces. It makes sense to think their schools must have something to do with that.

Then what do you make of the fact that you can't go to school in Sweden until you are 7 years old? The reason the unsentimental Swedes have wiped out what would be first and seconds grades here is that they don't want to pay the large social bill that quickly comes due when boys and girls are ripped away from their best teachers at home too early.

It just isn't worth the price, say the Swedes, to provide jobs for teachers and therapists if the result is sick, incomplete kids who can't be put back together again very easily. The entire Swedish school sequence isn't 12 years, either--it's nine. Less schooling, not more. The direct savings of such a step in the US would be $75-100 billion, a lot of unforeclosed home mortgages, a lot of time freed up with which to seek an education.

Who was it that decided to force your attention onto Japan instead of Sweden? Japan with its long school year and state compulsion, instead of Sweden with its short school year, short school sequence, and free choice where your kid is schooled? Who decided you should know about Japan and not Hong Kong, an Asian neighbour with a short school year that outperforms Japan across the board in math and science? Whose interests are served by hiding that from you?

One of the principal reasons we got into the mess we're in is that we allowed schooling to become a very profitable monopoly, guaranteed its customers by the police power of the state. Systematic schooling attracts increased investment only when it does poorly, and since there are no penalties at all for such performance, the temptation not to do well is overwhelming. That's because school staffs, both line and management, are involved in a guild system; in that ancient form of association no single member is allowed to outperform any other member, is allowed to advertise or is allowed to introduce new technology or improvise without the advance consent of the guild. Violation of these precepts is severely sanctioned--as Marva Collins, Jaime Escalante and a large number of once-brilliant teachers found out.

The guild reality cannot be broken without returning primary decision-making to parents, letting them buy what they want to buy in schooling, and encouraging the entrepreneurial reality that existed until 1852. That is why I urge any business to think twice before entering a cooperative relationship with the schools we currently have. Cooperating with these places will only make them worse.

The structure of American schooling, 20th century style, began in 1806 when Napoleon's amateur soldiers beat the professional soldiers of Prussia at the battle of Jena. When your business is selling soldiers, losing a battle like that is serious. Almost immediately afterwards a German philosopher named Fichte delivered his famous "Address to the German Nation" which became one of the most influential documents in modern history. In effect he told the Prussian people that the party was over, that the nation would have to shape up through a new Utopian institution of forced schooling in which everyone would learn to take orders.

So the world got compulsion schooling at the end of a state bayonet for the first time in human history; modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver:

Obedient soldiers to the army; Obedient workers to the mines; Well subordinated civil servants to government; Well subordinated clerks to industry Citizens who thought alike about major issues.

Schools should create an artificial national consensus on matters that had been worked out in advance by leading German families and the head of institutions. Schools should create unity among all the German states, eventually unifying them into Greater Prussia.

Prussian industry boomed from the beginning. She was successful in warfare and her reputation in international affairs was very high. Twenty-six years after this form of schooling began, the King of Prussia was invited to North America to determine the boundary between the United States and Canada. Thirty-three years after that fateful invention of the central school institution, as the behest of Horace Mann and many other leading citizens, we borrowed the style of Prussian schooling as our own.

You need to know this because over the first 50 years of our school institution Prussian purpose--which was to create a form of state socialism--gradually forced out traditional American purpose, which in most minds was to prepare the individual to be self-reliant.

In Prussia the purpose of the Volksshule, which educated 92 percent of the children, was not intellectual development at all, but socialization in obedience and subordination. Thinking was left to the Real Schulen, in which 8 percent of the kids participated. But for the great mass, intellectual development was regarded with managerial horror, as something that caused armies to lose battles.

Prussia concocted a method based on complex fragmentations to ensure that its school products would fit the grand social design. Some of this method involved dividing whole ideas into school subjects, each further divisible, some of it involved short periods punctuated by a horn so that self-motivation in study would be muted by ceaseless interruptions.

There were many more techniques of training, but all were built around the premise that isolation from first-hand information, and fragmentation of the abstract information presented by teachers, would result in obedient and subordinate graduates, properly respectful of arbitrary orders. "Lesser" men would be unable to interfere with policy makers because, while they could still complain, they could not manage sustained or comprehensive thought. Well-schooled children cannot think critically, cannot argue effectively.

One of the most interesting by-products of Prussian schooling turned out to be the two most devastating wars of modern history. Erich Maria Ramarque, in his classic "All Quiet on the Wester Front" tells us that the First World War was caused by the tricks of schoolmasters, and the famous Protestant theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer said that the Second World War was the inevitable product of good schooling.

It's important to underline that Bonhoeffer meant that literally, not metaphorically--schooling after the Prussian fashion removes the ability of the mind to think for itself. It teaches people to wait for a teacher to tell them what to do and if what they have done is good or bad. Prussian teaching paralyses the moral will as well as the intellect. It's true that sometimes well-schooled students sound smart, because they memorize many opinions of great thinkers, but they actually are badly damaged because their own ability to think is left rudimentary and undeveloped. We got from the United States to Prussia and back because a small number of very passionate ideological leaders visited Prussia in the first half of the 19th century, and fell in love with the order, obedience and efficiency of its system and relentlessly proselytized for a translation of Prussian vision onto these shores.

If Prussia's ultimate goal was the unification of Germany, our major goal, so these men thought, was the unification of hordes of immigrant Catholics into a national consensus based on a northern European cultural model. To do that children would have to be removed from their parents and from inappropriate cultural influence. In this fashion, compulsion schooling, a bad idea that had been around at least since Plato's "Republic", a bad idea that New England had tried to enforce in 1650 without any success, was finally rammed through the Massachusetts legislature in 1852. It was, of course, the famous "Know-Nothing" legislature that passed this law, a legislature that was the leading edge of a famous secret society which flourished at that time known as "The Order of the Star Spangled Banner," whose password was the simple sentence, "I know nothing"--hence the popular label attached to the secret society's political arm, "The American Party." Over the next 50 years state after state followed suit, ending schools of choice and ceding the field to a new government monopoly.

There was one powerful exception to this--the children who could afford to be privately educated. It's important to note that the underlying premise of Prussian schooling is that the government is the true parent of children--the State is sovereign over the family. At the most extreme pole of this notion is the idea that biological parents are really the enemies of their own children, not to be trusted. How did a Prussian system of dumbing children down take hold in American schools?

Thousands and thousands of young men from prominent American families journeyed to Prussia and other parts of Germany during the 19th century and brought home the Ph. D. degree to a nation in which such a credential was unknown. These men pre-empted the top positions in the academic world, in corporate research, and in government, to the point where opportunity was almost closed to those who had not studied in Germany, or who were not the direct disciples of a German PhD, as John Dewey was the disciple of G. Stanley Hall at Johns Hopkins. Virtually every single one of the founders of American schooling had made the pilgrimage to Germany, and many of these men wrote widely circulated reports praising the Teutonic methods. Horace Mann's famous "7th Report" of 1844, still available in large libraries, was perhaps the most important of these.

By 1889, a little more than 100 years ago, the crop was ready for harvest. It that year the US Commissioner of Education, William Torrey Harris, assured a railroad magnate, Collis Huntington, that American schools were "scientifically designed" to prevent "over-education" from happening. The average American would be content with his humble role in life, said the commissioner, because he would not be tempted to think about any other role. My guess is that Harris meant he would not be able to think about any other role. In 1896 the famous John Dewey, then at the University of Chicago, said that independent, self-reliant people were a counter-productive anachronism in the collective society of the future. In modern society, said Dewey, people would be defined by their associations--not by their own individual accomplishments.

It such a world people who read too well or too early are dangerous because they become privately empowered, they know too much, and know how to find out what they don't know by themselves, without consulting experts. Dewey said the great mistake of traditional pedagogy was to make reading and writing constitute the bulk of early schoolwork. He advocated that the phonics method of teaching reading be abandoned and replaced by the whole word method, not because the latter was more efficient (he admitted that it was less efficient) but because independent thinkers were produced by hard books, thinkers who cannot be socialized very easily. By socialization Dewey meant a program of social objectives administered by the best social thinkers in government.

This was a giant step on the road to state socialism, the form pioneered in Prussia, and it is a vision radically disconnected with the American past, its historic hopes and dreams. Dewey's former professor and close friend, G. Stanley Hall, said this at about the same time, "Reading should no longer be a fetish. Little attention should be paid to reading." Hall was one of the three men most responsible for building a gigantic administrative infrastructure over the classroom. How enormous that structure really became can only be understood by comparisons: New York State, for instance, employs more school administrators than all of the European Economic Community nations combined.

Once you think that the control of conduct is what schools are about, the word "reform" takes on a very particular meaning. It means making adjustments to the machine so that young subjects will not twist and turn so, while their minds and bodies are being scientifically controlled. Helping kids to use their minds better is beside the point. Bertrand Russell once observed that American schooling was among the most radical experiments in human history, that America was deliberately denying its children the tools of critical thinking. When you want to teach children to think, you begin by treating them seriously when they are little, giving them responsibilities, talking to them candidly, providing privacy and solitude for them, and making them readers and thinkers of significant thoughts from the beginning. That's if you want to teach them to think.

There is no evidence that this has been a State purpose since the start of compulsion schooling. When Frederich Froebel, the inventor of kindergarten in 19th century Germany, fashioned his idea he did not have a "garden for children" in mind, but a metaphor of teachers as gardeners and children as the vegetables. Kindergarten was created to be a way to break the influence of mothers on their children. I note with interest the growth of daycare in the US and the repeated urgings to extend school downward to include 4-year-olds.

The movement toward state socialism is not some historical curiosity but a powerful dynamic force in the world around us. It is fighting for its life against those forces which would, through vouchers or tax credits, deprive it of financial lifeblood, and it has countered this thrust with a demand for even more control over children's lives, and even more money to pay for the extended school day and year that this control requires.

A movement as visibly destructive to individuality, family and community as government-system schooling has been might be expected to collapse in the face of its dismal record, coupled with an increasingly aggressive shake down of the taxpayer, but this has not happened. The explanation is largely found in the transformation of schooling from a simple service to families and towns to an enormous, centralized corporate enterprise.

While this development has had a markedly adverse effect on people and on our democratic traditions, it has made schooling the single largest employer in the United States, and the largest grantor of contracts next to the Defence Department. Both of these low-visibility phenomena provide monopoly schooling with powerful political friends, publicists, advocates and other useful allies. This is a large part of the explanation why no amount of failure ever changes things in schools, or changes them for very long. School people are in a position to outlast any storm and to keep short-attention-span public scrutiny thoroughly confused.

An overview of the short history of this institution reveals a pattern marked by intervals of public outrage, followed by enlargement of the monopoly in every case.

After nearly 30 years spent inside a number of public schools, some considered good, some bad, I feel certain that management cannot clean its own house. It relentlessly marginalizes all significant change. There are no incentives for the "owners" of the structure to reform it, nor can there be without outside competition.

What is needed for several decades is the kind of wildly-swinging free market we had at the beginning of our national history. It cannot be overemphasized that no body of theory exists to accurately define the way children learn, or which learning is of most worth. By pretending the existence of such we have cut ourselves off from the information and innovation that only a real market can provide. Fortunately our national situation has been so favourable, so dominant through most of our history, that the margin of error afforded has been vast.

But the future is not so clear. Violence, narcotic addictions, divorce, alcoholism, loneliness...all these are but tangible measures of a poverty in education. Surely schools, as the institutions monopolizing the daytimes of childhood, can be called to account for this. In a democracy the final judges cannot be experts, but only the people.

Trust the people, give them choices, and the school nightmare will vanish in a generation.


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1 posted on 12/19/2001 8:15:00 AM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
This is a good essay (it may have been posted before), pointing out the real problem with the recent Education Bill.
2 posted on 12/19/2001 8:21:57 AM PST by mafree
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To: mafree
FR ought to have a top ten thread list for various topics. This has undoubtedly been posted before, but it is an excellent essay.
3 posted on 12/19/2001 8:27:46 AM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
Bump for later reading. Public school IS a nightmare. I went to public school and got paroled in 1988. I drove by my old High School recently, they have completely fenced it in with 10 ft fencing -- I swear it looks like a prison.

When I was there they used to chain the doors shut so that kids couldn't cut class. Some bright kids in our class called the fire department and told them it was endangering our lives. The fire dept came and cut the chains, much to the chagrin of the administration (and to much cheering from the students!).

Oh the stories I could tell you about my high school.

4 posted on 12/19/2001 8:32:41 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: toenail; pcl
good article
5 posted on 12/19/2001 8:35:03 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
It boggles my mind how parents who went through public school can turn around and send their children to public school. It just shows you how successful the "dumbing down" has been.
6 posted on 12/19/2001 8:48:09 AM PST by Cowgirl
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To: toenail
One of the principal reasons we got into the mess we're in is that we allowed schooling to become a very profitable monopoly, guaranteed its customers by the police power of the state.

Here it is in a nutshell. If you are a business owner and you find something that makes you a profit - are you going to change it?
Not unless you are convinced that the change will make you more profit.

7 posted on 12/19/2001 8:54:27 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: toenail
My wife is currently studying for her special educator's license. It is amazing to me the kind of leftist pap that is indoctrinated into teachers these days from their professors.

Case in point: My wife had to study an awful screed by ultra-leftist educator, Peter McLaren, that contained such thick liberal hyperbole as,

...a critical pedagogy that embraces a resistance post-modernism needs to construct a politics of refusal that can provide both the conditions for interrogating the institutionalization of formal equality based on the prized imperative of a white, Anglo male world and for creating spaces to facilitate an investigation of the way in which dominant institutions must be transformed so that they no longer serve simply as conduits for a motivated indifference to victimization for a Euroimperial aesthetics, for depredations of economic and cultural dependency, and for the production of asymmetrical relations of power and privilege...

This is the kind of elitist, anti-male, anti-Western mantra they're preaching in the name of "tolerance" and "multi-cultural solidarity".

Thank goodness my wife is too smart to buy into any of this soporific swill.

8 posted on 12/19/2001 8:57:25 AM PST by FreedomAvatar
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To: FreedomAvatar
Is that what the definition of is is?
9 posted on 12/19/2001 9:02:16 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: monkeyshine
Funny. The same thing happened to my old high school. I see a trend here, or perhaps a visual representation of the spiritual and mental reality that has existed for years. Chains and walls keep the parents out, and keep the children in.
10 posted on 12/19/2001 9:04:45 AM PST by =Intervention=
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To: Just another Joe
So our masters (representatives) profit with ever increasing revenues and willing sheeple to vote them in perpetuity. Now the question is, how do we put them out of business?
11 posted on 12/19/2001 9:05:31 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
Seems to me that there are two possibilities.
Number 1 is to homeschool.
Number two is that we go back to the older way of finding and hiring a teacher. The parents band together, interview and hire a teacher for their combined children whether that person has a teaching certificate or a degree.
If the parents are satisfied with the amount of learning their children are getting from that person, they stay hired. If not the parents find someone else.

I did this in another fashion when I moved out of the KC MO school district.
I was not satisfied with the learning in the KC MO school district so when we decided to move I made it perfectly clear, CRYSTAL CLEAR to any real estate agent that I talked with that I would not even look at a house in the KC MO school district.

12 posted on 12/19/2001 9:14:51 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: FreedomAvatar
You need to read this old post
Attitude Channeling and Brainwashing (Absolutely Incredible)
13 posted on 12/19/2001 9:17:47 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: toenail; pcl
re: #13
14 posted on 12/19/2001 9:18:41 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Just another Joe
KCMO government schools suck. STLMO government schools suck. I live two minutes walking distance from one of the "best" government elementary schools in MO, and I'll never put any kid of mine in it.
15 posted on 12/19/2001 9:40:08 AM PST by toenail
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To: FreedomAvatar
...a critical pedagogy that embraces a resistance post-modernism needs to construct a politics of refusal that can provide both the conditions for interrogating the institutionalization of formal equality based on the prized imperative of a white, Anglo male world and for creating spaces to facilitate an investigation of the way in which dominant institutions must be transformed so that they no longer serve simply as conduits for a motivated indifference to victimization for a Euroimperial aesthetics, for depredations of economic and cultural dependency, and for the production of asymmetrical relations of power and privilege...

And this is just a portion of a sentence. If it wasn't for "white, Anglo male," and "Euroimperial," I would have no idea what he is talking about. Somebody (probably taxpayers) actually pays this guy to write this crap. And he's only one member of the horde which has been working for most of a century to eradicate genuine education from our nation. Separation of school and state is our only hope.

16 posted on 12/19/2001 9:55:06 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: toenail
End the War on Children; Abolish Public Schools!
17 posted on 12/19/2001 9:59:53 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: FreedomAvatar
...not to mention that it's written with so many ridiculously pompous-sounding words that it's extremely hard to grasp the meaning..........or maybe that's the point.
18 posted on 12/19/2001 10:06:59 AM PST by rejoicing
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To: Just another Joe
Take the per pupil spending in an average suburban district (call it $7,000).
Give it back to the parents.
Ten families get together and hire a teacher who gets paid handsomely.

But we homeschool. It makes individuals out of teacher and student.

19 posted on 12/19/2001 10:08:36 AM PST by irgbar-man
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To: Cowgirl
It boggles my mind how parents who went through public school can turn around and send their children to public school.

It boggles mine, too. This is precisely the reason we homeschool. However, when I explain this to people, they look at me as if I'm trying to convince them that space aliens landed in my back yard.

FP

20 posted on 12/19/2001 10:15:57 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: LarryLied
fyi...
21 posted on 12/19/2001 10:21:59 AM PST by MadameAxe
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
And this is just a portion of a sentence. If it wasn't for "white, Anglo male," and "Euroimperial," I would have no idea what he is talking about.

Neither does he, but that's not important to leftists like McLaren. What this kind linguistic drool is all about is to intimidate the reader: "gee, I don't understand what he's saying but it sure sounds impressive..."

You, too, can write like a liberal educator. Create endless run-on sentences with words like, hegemony, pedagogy, praxis, exegesis, patriarchy, postmodern, and multicultural. If you need to make emphasis, use racist, jingoistic, or, my favorite, ludic, as spicy adjectives. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Here's one of mine: "A pedagogy must be made available to teachers that will infuse their pedagogies with postmodern elan of the ludic intellectual hegemony inherent in the white male patriarchy".

22 posted on 12/19/2001 10:26:29 AM PST by FreedomAvatar
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To: toenail
The direct savings of such a step in the US would be $75-100 billion, a lot of unforeclosed home mortgages, a lot of time freed up with which to seek an education.

And the laying off of thousands of union dues-paying teachers, which is why the Democrats will never allow anything like that to happen.

23 posted on 12/19/2001 10:35:37 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: FreedomAvatar
I thank God that your wife is too intelligent to buy into this BS as well. But the problem in this country is that the education establishment (and the mainstream media as well) continue to push garbage such as this onto the country....and the majority of the population is NOT intelligent enough to see through it.

The folks on this forum can pick out media bias and educational propaganda in a sec.....but we are not the target audience. In a democracy such as ours, they only need to brainwash 51% to get what they want. In my estimation, only about 10% of the population can see what is going on...the rest lap this junk up like cats with milk. As for the Freeper 10%, we can just be ignored or intimidated while they continue to dismantle America.

24 posted on 12/19/2001 10:39:36 AM PST by quebecois
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To: FreedomAvatar
LOL!
26 posted on 12/19/2001 10:40:44 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: toenail
Excellent and bookmarked.
27 posted on 12/19/2001 10:47:32 AM PST by boris
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To: alien2
No vouchers. No nothing.

The author, John Taylor Gatto, was New York State Teacher of the Year in 1991 and is a member of the Alliance for the Separation of School and State.

29 posted on 12/19/2001 10:50:55 AM PST by toenail
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To: FreedomAvatar
Clearly, your wife has already been completely brainwashed by the white, Anglo, male culture to the point of subservience.

Any CULTURALLY SENSITIVE individual would know that a passage such as that should be posted in jive, so that such wisdom can be available to a broad segment of society in their native dialect:

...a critical pedagogy dat embraces some resistance post-modernism needs t'construct some politics uh refusal dat kin provide bod de condishuns fo' interrogatin' de institushunalizashun uh fo'mal equality based on de prized impuh'tive uh a honky, Anglo male wo'ld and fo' creatin' spaces t'facilitate an investigashun uh de way in which dominant institushuns gots'ta be transfo'med so's dat dey no longa' serve simply as conduits fo' some motivated indifference t'victimizashun fo' some Euroimpuh'ial aesdetics, fo' depredashuns uh economic and cultural dependency, and fo' de producshun uh asymmetrical relashuns uh powa' and privilege...

30 posted on 12/19/2001 10:51:04 AM PST by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: toenail
Everyone who agrees with Mr. Gatto's observation and excellent commentary needs to take a look at The Seperation of School and State Alliance" web site and then pass it along to your friends. This subject is the one on this forum that is most near and dear to my heart (well, except my all the U. N. threads..) and we would do well to remember that he who controls the minds of the children also controls the future of the Nation.
31 posted on 12/19/2001 10:54:27 AM PST by KentuckyWoman
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To: toenail
"When you want to teach children to think, you begin by treating them seriously when they are little, giving them responsibilities, talking to them candidly, providing privacy and solitude for them, and making them readers and thinkers of significant thoughts from the beginning. That's if you want to teach them to think."

BTW, this is what happened--accidentally--to me.

I had a prototypical rotten childhood, made more so by an Evil Stepfather straight out of Grimms' Fairy Tales. I spent my youth hiding from him and reading. Every week, I travelled by bus to the Enoch Pratt Free Library in Baltimore, and checked out dozens of books. I hid in my room on the weekends, behind a locked door, emerging only for the bathroom and to eat. Plenty of solitude and time to think.

I educated myself, in spite of the schools I attended.

In retrospect, a "rotten" childhood gave me one boon: the time and inclination to read.

Teach your kids to read. It doesn't matter what. For me, it was mostly science fiction and non-fiction. Read until you puke. Until your eyes fall out. But read!

--Boris

32 posted on 12/19/2001 10:55:27 AM PST by boris
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To: FreedomAvatar
I'm sure that sentence would make perfect sense if you hadn't selfishly clipped off the beginning and the end. <8~)
33 posted on 12/19/2001 10:57:49 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: toenail
Excellent essay.
34 posted on 12/19/2001 11:11:00 AM PST by Gritty
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To: toenail
"Well-schooled children cannot think critically, cannot argue effectively."

My favorite quote from this article. Has anyone here tried to engage a Gen-Y person in a debate? It is not just a question of their not being able to form an original idea or an effective critique, it is that they are unable to process the answer once you give it to them!

Public schools have become a cancer on the body politic, and they have to be de-funded and dismantled if we hope to have a better future. I've seen studies that say that one hour of homeschooling is as effective as ten hours of public school instruction. I'm inclined to believe this, as I recall endless hours of being bored out of my mind while the teacher dragged along at the speed of the slowest student in the class.

35 posted on 12/19/2001 11:18:38 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: FreedomAvatar
Gee, don't be too worried, I didn't understand a word of it!
36 posted on 12/19/2001 11:31:59 AM PST by Boxsford
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To: toenail;Impeach the Boy
Did he not also write a book? I can't remember the title at this moment.

Impeach, thought you might like this article.

37 posted on 12/19/2001 1:22:11 PM PST by Le-Roy
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To: irgbar-man
Take the per pupil spending in an average suburban district (call it $7,000). Give it back to the parents. Ten families get together and hire a teacher who gets paid handsomely.

Ten families with 25 children ranging from K-12? Fine. Where is this hypothetical school supposed to be located? In someone's basement? I don't think so - most suburbs, especially, have zoning laws. Piano teachers can't even have students come to their homes in many areas. Now you're talking about rent, and insurance, and equipment, and books, and utilities. Do the ten parents form a corporation? Are they themselves entirely legally liable if one of them gets disgruntled and decides to sue? Add attorney fees to the pot.

Now let's talk about "getting paid handsomely." When you add medical insurance, social security, unemployment, workman's comp, and medical/life insurance benefits, you have to essentially double the salary the individual will receive. Thus someone earning $25,000/year as a teacher will actually end up costing the employer about $50,000. Nor is it realistic to expect one teacher to teach 30 kids ranging from K-12 for $25,000 a year; women did it in the good old days when it was that, marry, or starve. That was then, this is now.

This little private school solution is wonderful for those who have the means, time, and energy to do so. It is NOT a universal solution for the hundreds of thousands of public school students in any given city - many of whom have mothers who work, who don't want to help organize and serve on the board of a "small school of ten families," and many of whom would not educate their children AT ALL if education weren't compulsory.

As a final point, are these little cottage schools of ten families going to educate the autistic? The retarded? Those with severe cerebral palsy?

38 posted on 12/19/2001 2:11:32 PM PST by ikanakattara
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