Bump for historical truth and an excellent book. I think what upsets most yankees about this book is that Adams quotes from documented historical sources that the lincoln propaganda machine covered up for so long. The truth will come out
Of course, some folks think that the South leached off the North, and fought a war to keep us leaching off them. Makes sense to me. < /sarcasm >
Great Post! But of course your die hard butt-sucking Yankees will always want to ignore the truth! Like Len S does! He thinks its about slavery, when it was about rights! Pay him no mind, he probably lost his smarts because of all the Yankee Bovine Scatology he has been fed throughout the years.
There is no validity to any of the D.S.'s arguments not one and that is easily proven. But next thread the D.S.'s are back pretending that their arguments have never been refuted throwing endless misleading, deceptive or outright lying statements from discredited or rightfully obscure hacks at the audience.
Pathetic waste of time defending treason and anti-Americanism. The D.S.'s hatred of Lincoln is particularly hilarious. His superior intellect over any of the Slaveocrats' "leaders" drives them to mad attempts to pretend he was actually worse than those beating and whipping the slaves. But the slaves knew the truth as their love for President Lincoln clearly showed.
It is particularly disgusting to watch the D.S.'s attack a true martyr. A man who gave his life (and happiness) for his country now becomes the subject of venomous vituperation from the hateful ignorant. Even one as confused as Jefferson Davis understood that the death of Lincoln was a tremendous blow to the defeated South. His latter day worshippers are too stupid to understand that.
Blue Zone States would be purged from the Union.
By golly, you guys are already on your way to making a nation, since you have forgotten more history than most people ever learn.
The idea that the war was about secession or state's rights, Southern rights or the Southern way of life, or Northern aggression is appealing at first, but it's an evasion. When you ask why the war happened when it did, and why it did not happen at other times in our history, and why "Southern rights" was so important at this point in history, you do have to address the question of slavery. It may not be the only reason. Wars and historical events seldom have only one cause or reason, and that's especially true of civil wars, but slavery can't be ignored in studying the period.
So many people want a sanitized Southern history in which all of one's ancestors are exactly like one's self and pass all the contemporary tests of political correctness. That's a delusion as well. We know that North and South, virtually no Americans in this period had 21st century attitudes about race and racial equality. In all these debates we are told over and over again that Northerners of the 1860s were not model citizens of the multicultural world of 2001. What rarely gets mentioned is that the same was true of the Southerners of these years. Once we acknowledge that we might get somewhere. When we recognize that not believing in racial equality didn't mean supporting slavery, we can move a little further in our understanding. But people are more concerned with having a clear conscience than in letting the chips fall where they may. To understand causes, you have to let go momentarily of the ideas of guilt and innocence and go to the sources.
Adams's emphasis on the tariff is an answer to provide that unknown quality behind state's rights or secession or Southern rights that made the war a fighting matter. But it's a red herring -- a deliberate deception. There was no reason for the increase in the tariff but the secession of the lower tier of states, and no reason for Lincoln's election, but the anger of Southern Democrats that the Northern wing of their party was insufficiently supportive of the right to bring slaves into the territories and the free states. You can't remove slavery from the equation and account for the passions that were aroused.
Interesting thread, shuckmaster...whattaya think, sw?!
FReegards...MUD
I thought this article may be about succession in the 21st century. Today, the southern culture is almost as different from the rest of the nation as it was 150 years ago. In the South, you have the conservative bible belt, and in the north you have the hedonistic secularists. If the South succeeds in the future, please keep the gate open until I can get in. I'm sick of Gomorrah.