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VANITY: Lever Rifles. What's available in 7.62x39
kd5cts

Posted on 12/23/2001 5:55:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper

Is there a lever rifle in 7.62x39?


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In the new year, I'll be adding lever rifles to my collection. Suggestions of good collectible's will be appreciated.

I would like one 7.62x39 to reduce the number of different calibers I need to stock. I'm thinking it's a pretty close performer to the 30-30. I am also interested in anything anyone knows about .22 lever rifles.

/john

1 posted on 12/23/2001 5:55:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: kd5cts
Pointy bullets in high recoil rifles that use tubular feeding systems don't work very well.
2 posted on 12/23/2001 5:57:17 PM PST by agitator
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To: kd5cts
most lever action rifles have tubular magazines which means pointed bullets are a BIG no-no. Pointed bullets directly behind centerfire rifle cartridges means problems. You're probably stuck with the traditional flat nose bullet calibers.
3 posted on 12/23/2001 5:58:51 PM PST by Tailback
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To: agitator
Pointy bullets in high recoil rifles that use tubular feeding systems don't work very well.

Maybe there's something out there with a clip feed. Something like that old Savage
model that feeds them "pointy" type bullets from an magazine (built-in type).
But I think that one is for rounds like .30'06, .270 and the like.
4 posted on 12/23/2001 6:01:06 PM PST by VOA
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Winchester is bring out the 1895 in 405 win cal I have never seen a 7.62x39 lever. I surrpose the browning lever could be made into one they come in 308 ect.
5 posted on 12/23/2001 6:01:08 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Tailback
Duh! That would be why I couldn't find any information. I'm generally not stupid, but I have my moments.

Any experience with lever rifles? I'm clueless about them. I've only played with semi-autos and bolt action.

/john

6 posted on 12/23/2001 6:02:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: kd5cts
No. Go ahead and get a 30-30. And read Jeff Cooper.
7 posted on 12/23/2001 6:02:50 PM PST by real saxophonist
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To: kd5cts
I haven't seen what you're looking for either. To get a definitive answer, you can go to www.gunbroker.com and then click on the Discussion Forms. Then go to "Ask the Experts" and pose your question there. They've been very helpful when I've had questions.
8 posted on 12/23/2001 6:03:48 PM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: bang_list
BANG!
9 posted on 12/23/2001 6:05:41 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: Gordian Blade
There's also The Firing Line bulletin board.
10 posted on 12/23/2001 6:06:57 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: VOA
You must mean the Model 99 Savage lever. It used an internal rotary magazine.
11 posted on 12/23/2001 6:06:59 PM PST by IronJack
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To: kd5cts
I had an old Winchester model 88 (I think) in .308. Box mag, nice rifle, lever action. Mid '60's IIRC. I suppose that doesn't exactly answer your question, but it's the best I can do.
12 posted on 12/23/2001 6:07:15 PM PST by thatsnotnice
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To: kd5cts
I saw a pump 7.62X39 AK type on the web but really what's the point?

Get a good SKS or heck even An M-44 carbine.

13 posted on 12/23/2001 6:08:04 PM PST by tet68
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To: real saxophonist
Read what (specifically) by Jeff Cooper? He's written a lot of stuff.

/john

14 posted on 12/23/2001 6:08:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: kd5cts
Is there a lever rifle in 7.62x39?

Most levers use a rimmed cartridge. The 7.62x39 is rimless, I believe. I doubt you'll find a lever chambered for it.

15 posted on 12/23/2001 6:09:07 PM PST by IronJack
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You won't find a lever gun in 762x39 for the reasons mentioned above, but 30-30 is ballistically a close match. If you want to keep calibers consistent, consider a handgun caliber like 44 or 357 Magnum.

Presently, Marlin rules the roost on Lever Rifles, check their website at http://www.marlinfirearms.com/ and look at the Guide Guns and 336 series to start your search.

16 posted on 12/23/2001 6:10:00 PM PST by xsrdx
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To: tet68
Get a good SKS or heck even An M-44 carbine.

2002 is the year of the lever rifle for this household. We've got examples of all the important semi-autos.

/john

18 posted on 12/23/2001 6:12:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: kd5cts
There isn't any common levergun that has ever been offered in the 7.62x39. But, more than half the 1895 Winchesters sold were sold to the Russian Govt in 7.62x54 caliber. This was Russia's standard "full size" rifle cartridge. A lot of these rifles got captured in Finland (?) in the "Winter War".
19 posted on 12/23/2001 6:13:55 PM PST by rboatman
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To: kd5cts
The problem with lever action rifles using sptizer (pointed) bullets is that if the recoil slams the point of one round into the primer of the round directly ahead, and said primer ignites, well, you get the picture. At the very least, one will have a remodeled rifle, some expensive medical bills from a hand surgeon, and a healthy respect for burning propellant grains.

I happen to own a Winchester '94 in .375 Winchester. This rifle was known as the "big bore" and I enjoy it immensely. However, the only bullet that is offered from the factory is a 200gr FP. There are other FP bullets which can be cast and loaded in this firearm, but in NO WAY should you use a pointed bullet, unless one was going to load the firearm single shot, directly into the chamber. Incidentally, you can fire this using .375 round balls and black powder, but one has to single shot load directly into the chamber.

If a lever action is available with a box or a rotary magazine, then 7.62x39 would be a nice caliber. It is readily available everywhere, is accurate for most hunting that is normally done with a lever action, and if one gets a supply of brass able to be boxer primed, can be reloaded.

Personally, I have never seen a lever action rifle in this caliber, but I defer to others who may have seen them.

Greg

20 posted on 12/23/2001 6:18:00 PM PST by gwmoore
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