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Many face Kwanzaa, Christmas quandary
St Paul Pioneer (de)Press ^
| 12/31/01
| JASMINE KRIPALANI
Posted on 12/31/2001 10:00:08 AM PST by Valin
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:00:09 AM PST
by
Valin
To: Valin
Enough.
Kwanzaa is a pagan, racist, charade founded by a man in 1966 who tortured 2 women.
If idiocy draws some unfortunates to it, that is their problem.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:02:38 AM PST
by
SkyPilot
To: Valin
Hell, let's just all take the entire winter off. There are just too many holidays we can celebrate, and besides, it's cold outside.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:03:43 AM PST
by
willieroe
To: Valin
Celebrating the African-American heritage is not really a religious holiday.But it doesn't celebrate the heritage of most African-Americans in this country who did not come from W.Africa (Swahili), and had no knowledge of corn (used in the celebration). There are just too many things about Kwanzaa that don't make sense if it were to truly reflect "African-American heritage."
To: Valin
Kwanzaa is no different than:
Valentines day, Mothers Day, Secretary's Day, Grandparents Day, Earth Day . . . I could go on.
It has nothing to do with religion, so why all the fear? Is Mother's day a Pagen holiday?
To: Valin
It's as if they need to hold up a huge neon sign saying "Look at us! We are gullible fools!"
To: TheOtherOne
Oh yea, and they are all usless holidays made up for some ulterior motive
To: Valin
Besides, isn't "Black History Month" designed to celebrate African-American heritage?
To: Valin
Of course, this was the rationale behind 'inventing' this bogus 'holiday' to begin with...
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:07:57 AM PST
by
Antoninus
To: TheOtherOne
Most of those goofy days you cited were created to sell greeting cards.
Kwaanza was created to fuel racial separatism, and is therefore far more insidious.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:08:43 AM PST
by
dead
To: SkyPilot
paganI suppose the fourth of July is pagan as well?
To: SkyPilot
Now come on, don't leave us hanging - who are you talking about? Tell, tell!
To: dead
I just could not care less what people what to do in their homes.
To: NativeNewYorker
OTOH, Kwanza is about as wack as some of the stuff you can get in the Episcopal church these days...at least in my parish, sad to say.....
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:11:45 AM PST
by
ken5050
To: Valin
Two of the seven principles of Kwanzaa:
collective work and responsibility
cooperative economics
And here, in a nutshell, we have the cultural and ideological germ of a great deal of the poverty and degradation in today's America.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:11:49 AM PST
by
silmaril
To: anniegetyourgun
African-American heritage
I've been wondering for a while now just what this is. IMO about 80% of it is negative, slavery, poverty, second-class citizenship, Really something to celebrate.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:12:43 AM PST
by
Valin
To: willieroe
Hell, let's just all take the entire winter off. There are just too many holidays we can celebrate, and besides, it's cold outside.If this isn't the best perspective I've read to date.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:13:02 AM PST
by
Osinski
To: TheOtherOne
It has nothing to do with religion, so why all the fear?
If you dont want answers to questions, dont ask them, genius.
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:14:17 AM PST
by
dead
To: Valin
From our local celebration on the principle of "unity":
"Sandra Williams Bush told an African story about how all the organs of the body rose up against the stomach, which was receiving all of the food and enjoyed the title of president. They complained to the Creator, only to be warned, "Be careful what you say." After fasting for two days, all the organs realized that the body couldn't function without the stomach, which they then decided to promote to king." LINK What lesson should I learn from this?
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posted on
12/31/2001 10:15:54 AM PST
by
Marianne
To: Valin
I've been wondering for a while now just what this is. IMO about 80% of it is negative, slavery, poverty, second-class citizenship, Really something to celebrate. You nailed it, that is why they are so desperate to celebrate the 20% that is not negative. I see no problem with that. It has not caught on in a big way, nor would I expect it to. I do not understand people's hatred of it though.
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