Engineers Only.. Refining the Drug War

Jhoffa_X

[VA Advogado]

LOL

[Eaker]

Chooo Chooo....

[jimt]

BTW, if you're looking for a way to plug somebody's sewer, simply insert a balloon from the city's side at the connection to the main. That's MUCH simpler and cheaper.

[Wolfie]

To heck with that, load me up on chicken wings, pizza, and beer, and I'll do it a lot easier than that.

[Virginia-American]

Call Miss Utility first. Hitting a gas line would be real bad news.

[Jhoffa_]

JimT

If the Government had a truck capable of rolling up in your drive.. and ramming a blade into your sewer line. severing it..

They could analize the contents and therefore not bust down your front door with a battering ram, bust your toilet with a sledgehammer and hold your family hostage.. At gunpoint, I might add.

Then, they could come knock on the door like civilized folk.

And if they made a mistake.. ? HEY! I suppose it would be up to your city to foot the bill... (Read very visible Tax Dollars) Now, wouldnt it?

[balrog666]

The answer is "NO". Next question?

[Michael Barnes]

I'm lost, just how the hell does a .5" spike 8' in the ground "refine the drug war"?

[DETAILER]

More info needed. 1/2" thick steel, 8'-0" tall blade,correct?

Blade width how wide?

Approximate soil density?

Rocky terrain?

Wooded/Forest area?

Required speed of penetration?

I'm not an engineer, but work with them a lot, and I've got lots of reference books- I can give you a good educated guess.

[Ken H]

Yes, but you must call the utilities first before digging.

You may be liable for repair of underground cables, gas, and water lines.

[CJ Wolf]

what are you trying to prevent, flushing the stash? You'd be better off setting up an intercept where the house line comes in from. You'd run into some problems with your request as mentioned above.

[Jhoffa_]

ahh..

We are the State.. We will do any damn thing we please..

Sig Heil!

[Jim Pelosi]

It sounds like he's trying to retreive his flushed dope. Close call was it?

[john639753]

The answer is yes if the blade?? is driven with a sufficient velocity.....The truck could be light as long as the blade is not too heavy and the powder charge is small enough. Iv'e seen nails driven into steel beams with just a .22 bullett charge and a hand tool.

[ResistorSister]

You did not answer my question about the type of ground...you have not given enough info to really solve your problem...but I am quessing that it cannot be done.

[Jhoffa_]

You'd be better off setting up an intercept where the house line comes in from. You'd run into some problems with your request as mentioned above.

Hey, alternatives are GREAT!

But, the point being the State does not NEED to bust down peoples doors and put guns in their faces..

Right?

They can come and knock.. casually..

[umgud]

No you cannot just drive up in a truck and force a "blade" into typical earth 8 feet. The blade would have to be thick enough to withstand the force. The only reasonable way would be with a piledriver, and even this would take prep and a fair amount of time. In short...your druggies or their drugs will be gone.

[Jhoffa_]

It sounds like he's trying to retreive his flushed dope.

You got it..

Why bust down the door and shake guns in peoples faces to be sure they can't "flush" the stash..

Just catch it a few feet downriver..

It's the perfect answer to the "drug war" problem.

[Pistias]

Not practical--the blade would need a flute behind it capable of bringing the sample to the surface, or open a hole big enough for a probe to follow. Even then, there's no real purpose to such a thing; a) you'd be damaging their property or public property without a shred of due process at huge expense, b) you'd screw up sewage function for the whole damn block when you did the first few, c) there's no guarantee (and relatively little chance if you want speed) that a sample taken will contain what you're looking for--consider how much dishwater/washer/tap/non-contaminated toiletwater you use--unless you spike the septic tank, usually in the back yard and NOT pleasant to rupture, and d)the validity of the sample would be easily questionable and thus probably inadmissable, and they'd have no charges. Too costly for too little gain.

[T. Rustin Noone]

Please allow a humble architect to reply

The width of the steel is irrelevant. The thickness is. At 0.5" and 8' length, the slenderness ratio would kill you UNLESS you were able to support the steel continuously along its length while being inserted (by any means) into the ground.

My question back to you - what does the truck have to do with the question? I can weld an 8' length of steel to the nose of a B-1 and power-dive it into the ground. The steel rod and everything else would probably be 8' or more beneath the finish grade.