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What, Exactly, are the Great Achievements of the Islamic World?
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Posted on 01/11/2002 8:52:14 AM PST by ml/nj

Today in the WSJ, Karen Elliot House reviews a new book from Bernard Lewis entitled What Went Wrong. She begins this way:

How has it come to pass that a civilization that for centuries led the world in science, medicine, and the arts ...
Does anyone know what contribution the Islamic world made to science besides giving us our number system (admittedly a biggie) and naming a bunch of stars (less big)? Algebra may have Arabic roots linguistically, but I cannot think of a single concept or theorem that we credit to the Arabs. The Greeks are all over geometry. The Arabs supposedly preserved this and passed it along, but did they contribute? I don't know. I'm asking.

Ditto for medicine. What did they do? (Stop the bleeding when they chopped off someones hand?)

And if House just said "Art," maybe, but Arts? The Islamic architecture should certainly be considered "leading," but is there any philosophy or literature that anyone pays attention to along the lines of Maimonades or Aquinas?

ML/NJ


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221 posted on 09/10/2009 7:53:30 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: All

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222 posted on 09/10/2009 7:54:07 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Virginia-American
After the Romans fell, no one in Europe gave a damn about the Greeks, but Islam kept the knowledge alive.

Ah -- ever heard of a thing called THE LIBRARY of ALEXANDRIA which was the repository of ancient knowledge collected by the Greeks and burnt to the ground by those following Islam?

I still haven't forgiven them for that.

223 posted on 09/10/2009 7:57:38 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: LucyT

Firstly the parasitic arabs plagiarized from the cultures they over-ran, then, in their attempt to conceal what they had done, they tried to destroy the witnesses. Muslims know while ‘the people of the book’ survive, islam faces the danger their ‘prophet’ will be exposed.

http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_01_Would_You_Believe.Islam

By the time you have completed this review, you will know much more about Muhammad and fundamental Islam than most Muslims. And you will understand him and his doctrine better than most scholars and clerics. You will see Muhammad as he saw himself. His motives and agenda will be as transparent as his methods and means. Islam will no longer be a mystery. The only conundrum that will remain is why anyone believed this “prophet.”

Muhammad and his deity created very little original material. Team Islam was into plagiarism. Most of the Qur’an was lifted from the Torah and Talmud. (Apparently God ran out of good material when he finished the Bible.) Muhammad aside, there are only four non-Biblical characters in the Qur’an. Two represent mythical leaders of mythical lands. The third was Muhammad’s biggest critic, his uncle Abu. The fourth was Alexander the Great - a Muslim prophet, according to Allah.

While all the other names are the same - Adam, Noah, Satan, Gabriel, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Joshua, Lot, Moses, Aaron, Jonah, David, Solomon, Mary, and Jesus - their stories are not. The historical events surrounding these lives so meticulously detailed by the Jewish scribes were purposefully convoluted - ripped out of context and time - to justify Muhammad’s thinly disguised agenda. I share this now so you might know that without the inclusion of Bible characters and stories, the Qur’an and Hadith would be very thin on spirituality. We would be left with little more than temper tantrums, threats, and terror. No one would confuse it for a religion.


224 posted on 09/10/2009 7:59:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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225 posted on 09/10/2009 8:03:13 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08; Non-Sequitur; LucyT

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/moghal_atro.html

excerpt:

The Magnitude of Muslim Atrocities
(Ghazanavi to Amir Timur)


The world famous historian, Will Durant has written in his Story of Civilisation that “the Mohammedan conquest of India was probably the bloodiest story in history”.

India before the advent of Islamic imperialism was not exactly a zone of peace. There were plenty of wars fought by Hindu princes. But in all their wars, the Hindus had observed some time-honoured conventions sanctioned by the Sastras. The Brahmins and the Bhikshus were never molested. The cows were never killed. The temples were never touched. The chastity of women was never violated. The non-combatants were never killed or captured. A human habitation was never attacked unless it was a fort. The civil population was never plundered. War booty was an unknown item in the calculations of conquerors. The martial classes who clashed, mostly in open spaces, had a code of honor. Sacrifice of honor for victory or material gain was deemed as worse than death.

Islamic imperialism came with a different code—the Sunnah of the Prophet. It required its warriors to fall upon the helpless civil population after a decisive victory had been won on the battlefield. It required them to sack and burn down villages and towns after the defenders had died fighting or had fled. The cows, the Brahmins, and the Bhikshus invited their special attention in mass murders of non-combatants. The temples and monasteries were their special targets in an orgy of pillage and arson. Those whom they did not kill, they captured and sold as slaves. The magnitude of the booty looted even from the bodies of the dead, was a measure of the success of a military mission. And they did all this as mujahids (holy warriors) and ghazls (kafir-killers) in the service of Allah and his Last Prophet.

Hindus found it very hard to understand the psychology of this new invader. For the first time in their history, Hindus were witnessing a scene which was described by Kanhadade Prabandha (1456 AD) in the following words:

“The conquering army burnt villages, devastated the land, plundered people’s wealth, took Brahmins and children and women of all classes captive, flogged with thongs of raw hide, carried a moving prison with it, and converted the prisoners into obsequious Turks.”

That was written in remembrance of Alauddin Khalji’s invasion of Gujarat in the year l298 AD. But the gruesome game had started three centuries earlier when Mahmud Ghaznavi had vowed to invade India every year in order to destroy idolatry, kill the kafirs, capture prisoners of war, and plunder vast wealth for which India was well-known.


226 posted on 09/10/2009 8:11:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Read later, thanks.


227 posted on 09/10/2009 8:19:25 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

228 posted on 09/10/2009 8:21:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: LucyT

cold blooded

229 posted on 09/10/2009 8:36:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

– Leon Uris, “The Haj” Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threats


230 posted on 09/10/2009 8:41:08 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Fred Nerks
If you want to know what evil looks like you'r looking at it.


231 posted on 09/10/2009 8:57:57 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Lady Jag
Yep, I agree...but who-ever put the turban on him should have known that's not a muslim headdress, it's what is worn by a Sikh. And there's a HUGE DIFFERENCE.

SIKH

MUSLIM

232 posted on 09/10/2009 9:06:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: ml/nj

233 posted on 09/10/2009 9:11:19 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Fred Nerks

That wicked bastard is doing more to destroy America than the islamomurderers could do. With his democrat party creating the final economic weapons to bankrupt U.S. and destroy our resilience, he and his pack of scum will end up aiding and abetting more slaughter than 911.


234 posted on 09/10/2009 9:13:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: ml/nj

I think a distinction should be drawn between discoveries made by Arabs prior to Mohammad and Islam afterward. I think the PC types like to link the two together, when in fact, Islam actually turned the lights out of an intellectual culture.


235 posted on 09/10/2009 9:16:26 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: LucyT

~~~ALLAH~ALLAH~FUBAR~~~


236 posted on 09/10/2009 9:16:48 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: patriot08
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237 posted on 09/10/2009 9:50:54 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

who cares, they are nasty still sand dwellers


238 posted on 09/10/2009 11:54:48 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Paul Ross; Non-Sequitur

*snicker*


239 posted on 09/11/2009 12:50:05 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Paul Ross; Non-Sequitur

*snicker*


240 posted on 09/11/2009 12:50:21 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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