Posted on 02/05/2002 12:58:18 PM PST by Double Eagle Sword of Justice
Adolf Hitler's homosexuality has been demonstrated beyond question by German historian Lothar Machtan's massively researched new book, The Hidden Hitler, which shows homosexuality's central role in Hitler's personal life.
But the crucial role within the Nazi movement of the most vicious and lawless types of homosexuality, which Machtan also shows, is even more important than Hitler's personal preference. In 1933, six months after Hitler took power, the distinguished Jewish author Ludwig Lewisohn described what Machtan confirms, that "the entire [Nazi] movement is in fact and by certain aspects of its avowed ideology drenched through and through with homoerotic feeling and practice." And those homosexual currents inextricably were connected with vicious German militarism long before the Nazis.
Hitler quit school at age 16 and in 1909 moved to Vienna, where he twice took and failed the Art Academy's entrance examination. Shortly after his move, August Kubizek, a young man from his hometown, joined him and they lived together for four months. Intensely jealous, Hitler wrote Kubizek, "I cannot endure it when you consort and converse with other young people."
Hitler's adolescent move to sexually liberated Vienna — so new to him and so different from home — and his open choice there of homosexuality calls to mind the choice involved in what Charles Socarides calls America's "Thanksgiving Day Massacre." His book, Homosexuality: A Freedom Too Far, describes that "massacre" as when a college freshman, home for the first time after months at a sexually liberated college, joyfully informs his startled parents, "Hey Mom, hey Dad! Be thankful! I have something to tell you. I'm gay!"
For the next several years, Hitler drifted aimlessly. Despite immense Nazi efforts to erase as much of his past as possible (by destroying his massive police records, for example) Machtan dug out clear evidence of Hitler's homosexual activities during this period, such as his five months at a men's hostel known as "a hub of homosexual activity." He formed close attachments to several men, but throughout his life was uninterested in relationships with women.
In May 1913, he moved with another young man to Munich (said to be "a regular El Dorado for homosexuals") and, in September 1914, joined the Bavarian army. He spent the war years as a behind-the-lines messenger, enjoying a long and active sexual relationship with another runner, Ernst Schmidt. At war's end, Hitler returned to Munich and more homosexual activities.
He met at that time Capt. Ernst Roehm, a well-connected army officer who soon offered him his first job — as a political spy for the army within a newly organized workers' party. Hitler's political rise from that point was "meteoric," Machtan writes. Politically "an unknown quantity" when he joined the party in 1919, three years later he had become an important political influence — "the repository of the deutsch-folkisch [roughly German ultranationalist] movement's hopes."
Hitler's rise largely was due to the two brilliant homosexuals who mentored and tutored him: Roehm, a notorious pederast and a contemporary, and Dietrich Eckart, 21 years his senior. Roehm, a career staff officer during the war, had access to both secret army funds and to military and right-wing groups such as the ultranationalist, anti-Semitic and homoerotic Freikorps — the fiercely anticommunist terrorist squads that sprang up, especially in eastern Germany, in response to the political chaos of the early Weimar Republic. Eckart was a fiercely anti-Semitic journalist and playwright who taught Hitler political tactics and introduced him to Munich and Berlin society, as well as to other wealthy people throughout the country.
In April 1923 Hitler was convicted of treason for his nearly successful coup against the Bavarian government. Sentenced to five years in prison, he was released after nine months. He then began collecting the lawbreakers, sexual and other, who would form the heart of his new Nazi Party. Machtan shows that the party was a sexual swamp from its very beginning, an evil conspiracy in which members held sexual or other criminal secrets over one another's heads. Indeed, Machtan suggests that Hitler's fear that Roehm and other openly homosexual Nazis would "out" him and his associates was a motive for his later murder of Roehm.
The Nazi Party, whose terrorism and conspiracy had won it a maximum of 37 percent of the popular vote, took power in January 1933. In June 1934 Hitler had Roehm — his mentor, one-time closest friend and head of his 3 million-man storm-trooper organization (S.A.) — murdered, along with many of Roehm's homosexual party loyalists and hundreds of nonhomosexual opponents. These peremptory murders destroyed the rule of law in Germany and opened the door for the Holocaust's unprecedented brutalities.
The massacre, and the tighter laws against homosexuality that followed, are used falsely today, especially by some Holocaust-remembrance enterprises, to show that the Nazis actively opposed it and that they persecuted homosexuals just as they did Jews, only to a lesser extent. In a 1931 exposé of the Nazi Party, two years before it took power, the Munich Post attacked "the disgusting hypocrisy that the party demonstrates — outward moral indignation while inside its own ranks the most shameless practices prevail," and said that "every knowledgeable person knows that inside the Hitler party the most flagrant whorishness contemplated by paragraph 175 (defining homosexuality as a criminal offense) is widespread." Machtan confirms that Nazi hypocrisy, noting how "homosexuality was simultaneously proscribed and protected: Hitler had tailored it to his political and personal requirements."
Serious political errors mar this remarkably researched book. The most important involves the role of Magnus Hirschfeld (1868-1935), the well-known Jewish homosexual psychiatrist-researcher whom Machtan calls "the pope of homosexuality," and his being used as an unquestioned authority on the subject. Hirschfeld, recently honored at a conference at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, spent his life seeking to repeal section 175 and get homosexuality accepted. Why then was he such "an object of hatred" by the Nazis and their Freikorps predecessors, with Eckart, for example, viewing him "with positively pathological loathing?"
The answer is the "two irreconcilable philosophies linked by a common dysfunction" [homosexuality] that existed then in Germany: the "Butches" (or "Machos") and the "Femmes," whom Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams differentiate in their invaluable book, The Pink Swastika. "The roots of this conflict span a 70-year period which saw the rise of homosexual militancy in the movement that gave Nazism to the world." Machtan mentions neither the conflict nor the Lively-Abrams book.
The Butches were openly and deliberately lawless. They defied criminal statutes, including those governing homosexuality. As criminals, they were not concerned with trying to change the law. They were anti-Semitic, militaristic and gratuitously brutal. Their sexual ideal was the man-boy relationship extolled and engaged in by the Greeks, Crusaders and Teutonic knights. They considered these pederastic activities morally superior to sex with women, whom they despised as useful only for breeding. Their deepest hatred often was directed against the Femmes and, especially, Hirschfeld, whom they reviled as effeminate and therefore contemptible.
"Femmes," reported variously to be perhaps 5 percent to 15 percent of all homosexuals, saw homosexuality on the same moral level as heterosexuality, rather than above it. They supported the overall rule of law and opposed pederasty and sadomasochism. Many were involved in artistic and scientific activities — dance, music, theater and medicine — and persuaded many German intellectuals, liberals and Jews of homosexuality's acceptability. This acceptance of Femme homosexuality, based partly on seeing homosexuals as a harmless, often creative, "persecuted minority," seriously undermined public awareness of the true threat and acute danger of Macho homosexuals.
Hirschfeld inadvertently helped the Nazis in another way: by keeping many Nazi sex criminals out of prison. Lively and Abrams describe this, but Machtan doesn't. The Prussian authorities, rather than incarcerating many of these criminals, referred them instead for psychiatric treatment at Hirschfeld's Sexual Research Institute. The institute consequently collected an immense amount of material about Nazis' sexual crimes. That's why its records were the first fuel chosen for Nazi book-burning.
Another probable reason for Hitler's anti-Semitism is traditional Judaism's appreciation of women and its fierce opposition to homosexuality and the debasing of women. German-Jewish historian Samuel Igra describes this in his neglected 1945 book, Germany's National Vice. Machtan cites the book but not the concept.
The same assistance Hirschfeld and other Jewish homosexuals, and their liberal and psychiatric supporters, inadvertently gave Nazism by accepting homosexuality is demonstrated by the review of The Hidden Hitler in the New York Times Book Review by psychiatrist Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Totally ignoring the viciousness of Macho homosexuality, its intimate connection with German militarism and its pivotal role in creating Holocaust brutalities, Reich suggests that if Hitler was indeed homosexual that "may actually serve to humanize" him. When will today's liberal supporters of homosexuality, organized and otherwise, recognize how deliberate defiance of traditional sexual morality can lead to that deliberate defiance of all traditional morality, which defined the Holocaust!
Were it not for the fact that Hitler is such a repellent character, I'd suspect that this is just another attempt by the homosexual community to present one more historical personage a a closet queen.
A recently discovered little known fact may help to explain Hillary Clinton's aggressive and domineering personality: She is, in fact, Adolph Hitler's long lost daughter.
2 months before her suicide with Adolph in the infamous Berlin bunker, Eva Braun gave birth to little "Hildegard" Shickelgruber and arranged to have the baby smuggled across Allied lines to France.
In Marseilles, France, the child was delivered to a kind-hearted ship's captain. Upon landing in New Orleans, the captain personally carried the infant to the home of Eva's second cousin, Dorte Dittlemann, in – appropriately -- Stuttgart, Arkansas.
The rest, as they say, is history!
Actually, OWK is quite capable of telling the difference between men and women -- which would serve to explain the fact that he has children by the monogamous heterosexual relationship into which he has solemnly covenanted himself, with his wife.
You, on the other hand, appear to be incapable of telling the difference between witnessing the Gospel, and making a jerk of yourself.
You profane the Cause of Christ with your willful Bearing of False Witness, Law-Breaker.
Knock it off.
Absolute garbage.
I dislike homosexuality. I dislike Hitler. But I also dislike sloppy and sensationalistic fantasy writing masquerading as history.
As William Shirer (author of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and correspondent in Germany during the Nazi's rise to power) noted, a peculiarity about Hitler was that virtally the only area in life in which he showed tolerance was in matters of private vice. Consequently, the Nazi Party leadership was filled with drug addicts, perverts, sadists, and drunks. But there is voluminous information about Hitler which demonstrates his personal heterosexuality beyond serious question.
But the Nazi Party itself was riddled with homosexuality as well as other vices for a simple reason. People who would be unsuited for political office by reason of their vices in virtually any other party, found a comfortable home with the Nazis. As long as they were absolutely obedient to Hitler, and absolutely loyal to Nazi Party doctrine, they could do whatever they wanted in their private lives. Homosexual Ernst Roehm, and drug addict Hermann Goerring are prime examples.
OWK is an advocate of State non-interventionism on questions of adult sexuality.
And indeed, Nazi Germany does have a lesson to teach us on this matter. Read what your OWN ARTICLE has to say on the subject:
In April 1923 Hitler was convicted of treason for his nearly successful coup against the Bavarian government. Sentenced to five years in prison, he was released after nine months. He then began collecting the lawbreakers, sexual and other, who would form the heart of his new Nazi Party. Machtan shows that the party was a sexual swamp from its very beginning, an evil conspiracy in which members held sexual or other criminal secrets over one another's heads. Indeed, Machtan suggests that Hitler's fear that Roehm and other openly homosexual Nazis would "out" him and his associates was a motive for his later murder of Roehm.
When adult homosexuality is proscribed by State Law, homosexuals will tend to clique themselves together in small, closed-loop societies of mutual aid and advancement -- the "persecuted minority" syndrome. And since homosexuals do not breed, but recruit, their "households" tend to be DINK (Double-Income/No-Kids) allowing for rapid economic and social advancement. As homosexuals rise in economic status within a society, protecting and advancing their own, they acquire greater power and influence.
Without the "persecution complex" of State Prohibition, the tendency of homosexuals to band together for mutual advancement is offset by their tendency to relational infighting -- with some exceptions (nearly all things Human have exceptions), the combination of Male sexual rapacity with Male sexual jealousy can serve to make a homosexual clique a very jealous and back-stabbing group. These relational self-destructive tendencies will, in a free society, tend to neutralize the homosexual's contravailing "protective clique" mentality which provides for their economic advancement and procurement of political power. In a sexual-prohibitionist society, however, the "persecution complex" mentality will become the stronger motivation, overriding homosexuals' fierce jealousies in favor of mutual self-preservation. And, if the political ideology of that homosexual clique which comes to power happens to be vicious and militaristic, then the State will be subordinated for vicious and militaristic purposes -- as we saw in Nazi Germany.
OWK's advocacy of State non-interventionism on questions of adult sexuality is in no way, then, an invitation to the kind of aberrant Cliques which gave rise to Nazism, but rather a sociological deterrence thereof.
If any of you watch SNL, on weekend update, a lot of times they have Chris Kattan come out as Gay Hitler. Usually he makes an appearance with Will Ferrell as Neil Diamond. It always makes me howl with laughter!
No, you were bearing False Witness.
OWK promotes monogamous heterosexuality. Just ask him. He will happily affirm that monogamous heterosexuality is healthy and productive, whereas homosexuality is dangerous and reproductively pointless.
He simply does not believe in beating people with a stick to persuade them of that which he promotes.
He also promotes his atheist views on other threads.
And we promote our theist views.
When OWK expresses a logical objection to the claims of Theism, the Christian thing to do (1 Peter 3:15) is to provide him with a logical answer, not attempt to shout him down.
For that matter -- Why on earth would you attempt to shout him down? Are you actually afraid that his questions could damage your Faith? Do you actually worry that his objections might undermine your Faith?
I have no such crises of confidence in my Faith. My confidence is absolute. So OWK's atheism represents no threat to me. If your own confidence is anything less than absolute, the proper intellectual response is not to attempt to silence the atheist, but examine why you are unable to answer him, and strengthen your own intellectual Faith.
He prefers a Godless sodomite society.
He prefers a Free society. I submit that a society in which everyone but OWK believed in God, and everyone (including OWK) was heterosexual, would be perfectly OK with him... as long as it was Free, i.e., voluntary.
Presbyterian on the other hand condones these activities in opposition to the bible and so is apostate and an abomination before God.
"Condone" homosexuality? I do nothing of the kind. Perhaps you should check my bookmarks, and read the article "Tolerate This!!" which I recently posted.
Since I in no way condone homosexuality, you are Bearing False Witness again. And since you know full well that I am not apostate, your bearing of false witness constitutes a direct sin against the Lordship of Christ, your God and King who has commanded you to Not Bear False Witness.
And even now, your neck is stiffening against the Repentance which your bearing of false witness necessitates.
But you MUST repent of your False Witness, Law-Breaker.
Such is the Law of God.
How am I supposed to know his preferences besides through his posts. He has stated his preferences many times as to his perfect world. I am just helping him show others his desired environment. He told me once he liked girls I think but, I do not have to believe his claim. Since he is so adamant in his views I assume he is Bisexual.
OWK is a married heterosexual male. If you ever read his humorous posts on the subject of his Tour of Duty with the US Army in Turkey (where sodomy is apparently somewhat common amongst the locals), you would know that he considers the homosexual act to be, well, just plain "queer", not to mention nauseating. Those are the facts.
You are Bearing False Witness again.
If he is such a fine parent then he should be more concerned that the conduct he is in fact promoting on this website is detrimental not only to society but to his children who will have to live in that society.OWK does not promote homosexual conduct.
He promotes Liberty and Personal Responsibility.
These are not detriments to "society", but rather Positive Goods.
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