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To: denydenydeny
I heard this when they were in the production phase, but it wasn't written in stone. I personally will not see this revisionist, bend over for the jihad film.
2 posted on 03/10/2002 4:12:08 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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18 posted on 03/10/2002 4:31:05 PM PST by aomagrat
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To: sheik yerbouty
"To begin the onslaught, they set off an atomic bomb in Chechnya. The American government is shocked thinking the Russians did that themselves."

Fiction:

"The President (James Cromwell) issues a warning to Russia not to aggravate the situation."

Reality:

The President would contact the Russians, and ask, "Do you have enough Potassium Iodide for your troops? Do you need us to rush some out to you?"

"Investigating the situation in Russia is a lowly CIA agent, Jack Ryan (Ben Affleck), who's being mentored by a presidential advisor (Morgan Freeman)."

They got rid of James Earl Jones too? Is he on the Hollywood sh*tlist because they found out he's a pro-RKBA conservative?

32 posted on 03/10/2002 4:48:32 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: sheik yerbouty
And then there was that famous literary feud conducted over fax machines after Christopher Buckley in a review printed by the New Yoork Times Review of Books called Tom Clancy (citing from memory) "the most successful bad writer since James Fenimore Cooper." It's hard to disagree with that one...
36 posted on 03/10/2002 4:55:30 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: sheik yerbouty
Neo Nazi's ???

Not only PC - but untimely as well.

I'd rather have the real whack-o 's [Environmentalists, animal lovers, vegetarians, ---that bunch]. Oops...are poeple reading this?

41 posted on 03/10/2002 5:01:14 PM PST by The Raven
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To: sheik yerbouty
"Neo-Nazis" are now the villains in the film version

Did they really need a film to prove they were villains? or did someone not have a clue and thoght they were a credible organization? [SARCASM remains on for truth]

44 posted on 03/10/2002 5:05:37 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: denydenydeny
didn't SUM OF ALL FEARS(the book) have the villians as ARAB TERRORISTS??

Arab terrorists, aided by a Native American terrorist!

49 posted on 03/10/2002 5:21:41 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: sheik yerbouty
I'll make sure that I never see this revisionist piece of tripe.
53 posted on 03/10/2002 7:30:47 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: sheik yerbouty
Yeah, I'll be rushing out to see this one...not.
56 posted on 03/10/2002 8:01:12 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: sheik yerbouty
I've read all of the Clancy novels. SOAF ties WITHOUT REMORSE as the best! The first thought that I had on 9/11 was that the Clancy had predicted the modus operandi ("Debt Of Honor"). I often wonder if the terrorists had been inspired by that book.

I understand that Clancy has not been pleased with the deviations in other movies (hence the delay on this one). Needless to say, I won't go see this crap, it's utter implausible. The book was very plausible.

P.S. The Arab/Muslim terrorists used commy East German Nuke scientists to rebuild the fission bomb and convert it into a fusion (Hydrogen) bomb but then goofed up by killing them before the deuterium was purified. The enraged POTUS does order a retaliatory strike on Iran but cooler heads (i.e. Ryan's (head of CIA)) prevail. Saudi publicly beheads the arch villian in the end.

59 posted on 03/10/2002 8:29:35 PM PST by Theophilus
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To: sheik yerbouty
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't SUM OF ALL FEARS(the book) have the villians as ARAB TERRORISTS?? If so, doesn't having them as Nazis in the movie make Paramount's sum of testicles zero?
Apparently Paramount didn't really read the book.

I just re-read it. Clancy made it perfectly clear in the book that he had tons of respect for "mainstream" Islam, and that the terrorists were not only a fringe group but an abomination of true Islam.

Hell, he had the Saudis try and then execute the terrorists because neither Colorado nor the federal government had a death penalty (the book was written in 1991).

Sheeesh....

-Eric

64 posted on 03/11/2002 11:26:26 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: sheik yerbouty
The only difference between a neo nazi and a muslim terrorist is the muslim extremist says "inshalla" after virtually every sentence and thinks suicide-bombing is acceptable if you can talk someone into doing it. Ideologically speaking, they are pretty much the same: "Our problems are someone else's fault and we need violent revolution to kill the people responsible for our failure to lift ourselves from the status of losers."

That said, the movie producers probably aren't aware that the arguments and propaganda that emanates from neo nazis and muslim extremists is so similar- hollywood clearly wants to change the villains in the movie to white neonazis because white neonazis won't sue, and because hollywood thinks neo nazis are right wing extremists when in fact they are far closer to left wing extremists than they are to the mainstream right. Fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin... both are harmful to individual liberty because both are 'group rights' ideologies. Hollywood isn't bright enough to figure that out.

Movie producers should leave major parts of the plot alone, as the author wrote them, and forget about social engineering.

71 posted on 03/11/2002 12:24:05 PM PST by piasa
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To: sheik yerbouty
Not on MY list of films to see... now if you talk about We Were Soldiers, that is on my BUY list, especially after seeing Mel Gibson in it!
74 posted on 03/11/2002 2:16:53 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: sheik yerbouty
Yet more proof that the "View From Sunset Boulevard" gang members are agenda-driven "social terrorists." They're not just greedy for bucks - they want to inoculate as many people as possible with their wacky leftism. Shameful. "To Live And Die in L.A." had a Muslim homicide bomber - but they're rare in Hollywood productions.
83 posted on 06/03/2002 11:46:05 AM PDT by 185JHP
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To: sheik yerbouty
Do you honestly expect a movie to be an accurate reflection of anything?
86 posted on 06/03/2002 12:15:08 PM PDT by paul51
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To: sheik yerbouty

Soon to be one more Hollywood flop...


94 posted on 06/27/2018 2:17:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (David Ignatius sided with Germans against his own country - what a jackass.)
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