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Conservative Rock Groups?

Posted on 03/17/2002 11:56:23 AM PST by Lebowski

I was wondering if anybody can name some conservative rockers. It seams most people in the Music Industry are Left-Leaning, especially the hard stuff. I think you could say the same for most entertainment personalities, including movie stars and directors. So if any of my fellow conservatives could point me in the way of some good conservative rock groups it would be appreciated.


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To: timm22
Bill Maher claims to be libertarian as well. Positions on the issues are needed to confirm one's stated ideology, however.
181 posted on 03/18/2002 11:15:36 PM PST by weegee
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To: elwoodp
I thought that The Rolling Stone's B!t@h was the song that they wrote about Hitlery...
182 posted on 03/18/2002 11:19:52 PM PST by weegee
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To: PaulJ
Then there's the song that the Rolling Stones wrote to snap the "gimme gimme"-somes back to reality "You Can't Always Get What You Want" :)
183 posted on 03/18/2002 11:21:49 PM PST by weegee
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To: SpookBrat
Joy died almost a year ago (at Easter, bookended by Ed Roth and Brother Theodore's deaths).

The Ramones got inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame today.

184 posted on 03/18/2002 11:26:50 PM PST by weegee
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To: SpookBrat
A bit more confrontational song about abortion is the Sex Pistols' Bodies. When I saw the 20 year reunion tour (after they successfully won their material in court), Bodies was the first song of the night (although I think that many in the crowd probably didn't give it much thought or agree with the position).

Note: I've redacted profanity from the lyrics but left the rest. It's a somewhat graphic description from the fetus' perspective. Certainly doesn't hold to the "a fetus is not a life" perspective.

BODIES

She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was case of insanity
Her name was Pauline she lived in a tree

She was a no one who killed her baby
She sent her letter from the country
She was an animal
She was a bloody disgrace

Bodies I'm not an animal
Bodies I'm not an animal

Dragged on a table in factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming
Body screaming ****ing bloody mess
Not an animal
It's an abortion

Bodies I'm not animal
Mummy I'm not an abortion

Throbbing squirm,
gurgling bloody mess
I'm not an discharge
I'm not a loss in protein
I'm not a throbbing squirm

**** this and **** that
**** it all and **** the ****ing brat
She don't wanna baby that looks like that
I don't wanna baby that looks like that
Body I'm not an animal
Body an abortion

Bodies I'm not an animal
Bodies I'm not an abortion
I'm not an animal..... Mummy!

I found an analysis from last year by someone who just didn't get it Bodies: Sex Pistols and Abortion Art .

The reporter's use of phrases like "anti-choice" put him squarely in the pro-abortion camp and yet he never addresses the song's discussion of not being a discharge or blob of protein. This doofus thinks that the songs champions women because he thinks that this abortion is liberating this woman. "And it is women, not those young male Pistols, who when universally given their right to choice, can finally assert they're no longer animals domestically penned for breeding."

While I'm on this digression, I'd like to quote one more paragraph from the linked essay:

French feminist Ginette Paris has written of "the sacrament of abortion", turning a very difficult yet necessary event into a holy moment of sacrifice for the greater good of a household with only planned, wanted children. This concept-- that such an important choice would be sanctified and given meaning in any faith-- resonates with me.

The "sacrament" of abortion a "necessary event"? Then he should support Andrea Yates killing her kids because she believed that she had already failed them. Sacrifice for the greater good of a household and all that.

I checked Lydon's autobiography. Not much in it about this song (just saying that Pauline was a demented fan). The full text from the passage in the book appears in his article but it has been cut and pasted to appear to be longer than it is (or maybe to give the impression that it says things that aren't there). Nothing written by the Sex Pistols in that passage defends or condemns her abortion but I think that the lyrics are quite damning.

I did more research online and found that some on the left take it as pro-abortion (with little support for this argument), one even claimed that Pauline was raped (historically she was a promiscuous groupie with a mental disorder). It looks like Veruca Salt may have even changed the lyric to "I'm not an animal, it's just an abortion".

Others interpret the song as being anti-abortion (but don't necessarily support the politics). "...the first rock song ever to portray abortion as something hateful (and in that case Lydon's anger is a good match for the subject matter of the tune)." Spin Magazine quotes Johnny saying that it "was not so much anti-abortion as it was anti-flesh". Even a Harvard text online called it an "anti-abortion tirade".

John Lydon's politics are hard to pin down. He puts the blame for the violence in Ireland on both sides feeling that neither side ever wants it to end (it is not about concessions). He disliked the Clash and digs at them for Marxist politics in some of their early songs. He even disliked hippies (even though he roadied for Hawkwind). I wouldn't classify him as a conservative but we've got some common ground at least with some of the songs.

Heck, "we" cast the monarchy aside, God Save The Queen, Johnny.

185 posted on 03/19/2002 1:18:12 AM PST by weegee
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I found another anti-abortion song in my research, one by Graham Parker (I haven't heard it). Graham Parker: Back and better than ever
Your song "You Can't Be Too Strong" was one of the first anti-abortion songs in rock, apart from the Sex Pistols' "Bodies." How did that one come about?

I just wrote the stuff when I was drunk or out of my head. I literally wrote that song one night after I'd gone to see Wreckless Eric live at Guilford University. I was well tanked up, and he asked me onstage to sing "Johnny B. Goode," which is the worst thing you can do, of course, so we couldn't do anything. Then I drove home-I was staying at my parents' home-I just came home. I was sitting in my parents' living room, ripped out of my head, and I just started playing that song. I wrote it as a kind of up-tempo country song. And it remained like that until Jack Nitzsche heard it. And he said, "It's pretty serious. Slow it down." We did it in one take and it was like this big powerful thing came out.


186 posted on 03/19/2002 1:18:54 AM PST by weegee
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To: Lebowski
I never found Lynyrd Skynyrd left leaning - "Needle and the spoon" was about as anti drug as it gets - (nevermind the whiskey drinkin)
187 posted on 03/19/2002 2:07:07 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: wku man
If you've not already, check a band from Katy, Texas called Galactic Cowboys.

They have one of the best pro-life songs ever. It's called "If I Were a Killer." Check it out. It rocks and has ferociously anti-abortion lyrics. I didn't know they were from Katy, Tx. Kings X is also from there.

If I were a killer
I'd hide behind a doctor's door..........

188 posted on 03/19/2002 2:38:20 AM PST by Skooz
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To: weegee
I found another anti-abortion song in my research,

How about POD "Abortion is Murder" ?

189 posted on 03/19/2002 2:48:05 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Lebowski
Confederate Railroad

She never cried when Old Yeller died

she wasn't washed in the blood of the Lamb

she didn't stand up for the Star Spangled Banner

and she wasn't a John Wayne fan...

190 posted on 03/19/2002 3:24:01 AM PST by johnandrhonda
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To: SpookBrat
"In America" is a very conflicting song and shows Scott Stapps confusion.

In America

Only in America
We're slaves to be free
Only in America we kill the unborn
To make ends meet
Only in America
Sexuality is democracy
Only in America we stamp our god
"In God We Trust"
What is right or wrong
I don't know who to believe in
My soul sings a different song
In America
Church bell's ringing
Pass the plate around
The choir is singing
As their leader falls to the ground
Please mister prophet man
Tell me which way to go
I gave my last dollar
Can I still come to your show
What is right or wrong
I don't know who to believe in
My soul sings a different song
In America
I am right and you are wrong
I am right and you are wrong
I am right and you are wrong
No one's right and no one's wrong
In America

191 posted on 03/19/2002 3:34:43 AM PST by smith288
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To: Skooz
You're right, bro. I saw King's X and Galactic Cowboys in a dual-bill show a few years ago in Nashville. Man, did it ROCK!! I also saw King's X a couple of times in Austin when I was stationed at Fort Hood. I sure hope the two bands go back on the road together sometime soon.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

192 posted on 03/19/2002 3:52:45 AM PST by wku man
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To: Revelation 911
Ever hear "Mr. Saturday Night Special"? It doesn't get much more anti-gun than that.


Handguns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else...

I like Skynyrd, but make no mistake, they are definitely anti-gun. Or at least they were back then...maybe they've wised up over the years.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

193 posted on 03/19/2002 3:59:39 AM PST by wku man
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To: analog
I took "My Sacrifice" as a song about himself. He wants to be more like his old self.
194 posted on 03/19/2002 4:07:58 AM PST by smith288
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To: wku man
they are definitely anti-gun

hmmmm I thought they were talking about saturday night specials. And if you further want to quiblle, I'll admit "Im a whiskey rock & roller" is no Christian / Conservative tune - but hey - I didnt say they were perfect

195 posted on 03/19/2002 4:08:18 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Lebowski
These are links to Christian Video Channels based on the MTV format but clean.
P.O.D., Audio Adrenaline, GS Megaphone, Hangnail, Ill Harmonics, Lifehouse, Supertones Alternative http://www.tvulive.com/
Steven Curtis Chapman Audio Adrenaline Skillet Riley Armstrong The Elms PraiseTV is not as hard as TVU. http://www.praisetv.com/
196 posted on 03/19/2002 4:23:35 AM PST by CrossWalker
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To: IWONDERIFJESSEJACKSONISMYDADDY
You forgot the sarcasm tags. I don't see a homo-junkie as being conservative.
197 posted on 03/19/2002 5:15:18 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Peggy
I tend to believe Charlie Daniels Band is about as strong American Band with homeland taste and values as you could ever hope to find!
198 posted on 03/19/2002 5:48:14 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Rick_Hunter
Agnostic Front - they're a legendary NYC hardcore/punk band with some conservative views; their anti-welfare song "Public Assistance" caused a lot of controversy back in the late 80's

OMG!!! A fellow freeper who knows about Agnostic Front! I remember that their lead singer (whose name eludes me) was a Cuban American who also caught flack for being a staunch anti-Communist.

As far as THE GREATEST ROCK N ROLL BAND EVER (aka the Ramones) is concerned it went like this: Joey was a Democrat, Johnny is a Republican and Dee Dee was apolitical. I don't know about Tommy, Marky or Richie though.

199 posted on 03/19/2002 6:09:49 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: weegee
The posthumous cd just released by Joey includes a paen to the pin-up girl of the daytrading set, CNBC's "Maria Bartiromo"

Liz Clayman is waaaaay hotter...

200 posted on 03/19/2002 6:13:43 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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