Posted on 04/10/2002 5:48:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
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I thought it was already 'decided' that the guy was wrong and the coppers right. (isn't that the tune???)
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The LASD officer was shot in the right temple with the bullet lodging in the left jaw bone. This doesn't sound like a high powered projectile to me. Further, there is a pretty good likelihood that the officer would have been facing the perp straight on, or with his head down left side exposed to him. This does lead me to wonder who actually hit the officer. My inclination is to belive the coroner by about 51 to 49%.
Yes, I think something happened a week and a half later that was more important.
However, something like this happens more often in the good ol USA than that event. You will be more likely a victim of this careless police work than being a victim of a terror attack from some jihad. This seems to be happening too much!If you followed this event from the beginning and read all the threads you will find it was a screw up all the way through.
BTW,a good source says the deputy was shot in the right temple with the bullet traveling from back to front. No exit wound and no bullet. Just correcting a previous post.
No exit but no bullet? Never mind, I'll keep my opinion to myself. Officially it was a bullet fragment to the brain.
* George Washington Said "Only put Americans on guard tonight. *
In 1987 only eight states had Concealed Carry Weapon (CCW). Today you can count 33 states with shall issue CCW, and 11 states with may issue.
Then we have the six states with no issue. However of the six states, OH, MO, WI, MN, and KS are working hard and have bills pending. OH is closest with MO, WI, and KS closest to passing a CCW law. Illinois NRA grass roots group is dead at the morge on th CCW issue.
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Here it is:
It's a composit of about five or six different screen captures off FoxNews that one of our Freepers captured. I resized them, adjusted the light, tinted them and rotated them to fit. I then drew up a number of different trajectories.
Some of the trajectories fly in the face of the friendly fire scenario. For instance, the Beck home is the farthest right driveway. Although a number of bullets did hit the home to the left of the Beck home in this photo, they wouldn't be likely to have come near Beck unless fireed from behind the patrol car on the far left of this photo. Then the downward slope and the officer standing behind a taller vehicle may have brought trajectories rather close to Beck.
555 rounds were reported to have been fired by officers on sight that day. Plantiff's attornies state that over 100 of those bullets hit the home to the right of Becks, not shown in this photo. Then Beck is reported to have fired 150 rounds. Who knows if any of this is accurate?
My contention is that if Beck was right handed, he would have more than likely lined up on the right rear of the car. That would have seen him shooting upwards and left to target Beck's windows. This would not expose his right temple to Beck. Standing behind the car wouldn't either if he was right handed. If he was left handed a case could be made for him exposing his right temple to Beck as he hid behind the car. Otherwise it would have been impossible for Beck to hit him in the right temple.
Beyond that, even if the Deputy was left handed and raised up to shoot at Beck, Beck would have had to be waiting with his gun fixed on Beck's position to nail him just as he raised up. I don't think many people would stand there focusing on the next appearance of the deputy, all the while exposing themselves under heavy hostile fire. This has led me to question the "Beck was the shooter theory." I don't see the deputy as exposing his right side to Beck. He'd have had to turn too far after raising up, to get off a shot, exposing himself longer than necessary, if he faced Beck's windows straight on.
Facing Beck's windows straight on would expose the officer to friendly fire. After watching the keystone cops capers that afternoon, I think the friendly fire scenario is much more in tune with the way things were going on sight that day. Two homes other than Becks were raked with life rounds. Here's another interesting photo.
Look at the sheriff's cruiser to the left of the red SUV. Then check out the trajectory to Beck's windows. Then check out the shell casings on the right of the red SUV. Also check out the stains on the pavement. I don't think the officer was firing rounds from behind the vehicle.
While I don't think any of this is conclusive proof that Beck didn't fire the shot, I do think there are other scenarios possible.
This situation couldn't have been handled worse if the BATF had taken fifteen high school students out for a ride along and let them run the whole show.
Even after this disaster one BATF agent said, (paraphrased) "Looking back I think we handled the whole thing just right."
Well, that makes one human on the planet.
LOL, are you still clinging to the scenario that the BATF did everything right here? Ah, what would it take to convince you there might have been a problem?
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, not the BATF. Quite a command of the facts you're showing.
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