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Is This The Real Noah's Ark, Found At Last? The Mystery Of The "Ararat Anomaly"
TooGood Reports ^ | 4/15/02 | Isaiah Flair

Posted on 04/16/2002 12:12:59 PM PDT by Good Tidings Of Great Joy

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To: lexcorp
It wouldn't help that after the lions and tigers and Tasmanian wolves get done eating the starving antelope and deer and wallabes, they'd turn on the humans.

They were not carnivores before the flood.

We don't know how long after the flood it took for them to become carnivores.

We also don't know how many years' worth of food stores were on the ark or whether there was a garden that could be transplanted.

Granted, repopulating the world from a few survivors is a daunting task, but it is made easier if it is properly planned for. And they had the universe's greatest planner.

Shalom.

101 posted on 04/17/2002 12:41:45 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: ArGee
I may have mistyped. But I do clearly remember seeing things on tv about spy satellites being able to read newspaper headlines. Which are clearly much larger than the story type.
102 posted on 04/17/2002 12:46:30 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: VadeRetro
Fifteen thousand feet adds a lot more water.

Unless Ararat, that very active mountain, rose up that far after the flood.

Which would decrease the likelihood that a wooden boat would survive, but I'm skeptical that there is anything on that mountain that would interest anyone but a tourist shark. G-d doesn't tend to leave footprints.

Shalom.

103 posted on 04/17/2002 12:47:05 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: JediGirl
You can find similar stories within every religion (naturally there are variants as to how the creation and re-creation took place, but the underlying message is still there

That argument is a non-starter. If Genesis were not a myth but the actual truth you would find it (or variants thereof) in every religion.

Shalom.

104 posted on 04/17/2002 12:53:12 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: Phantom Lord
I may have mistyped. But I do clearly remember seeing things on tv about spy satellites being able to read newspaper headlines. Which are clearly much larger than the story type.

It may be possible. I don't remember the math. But considering that light spreads and becomes diminished with the square of the distance travelled it just seems highly unlikely.

Newspaper story, eh? Well, we know that those are always 100% factually accurate. But you may be right. I don't suppose there is anyone on this site who knows for sure.

Shalom.

105 posted on 04/17/2002 12:55:53 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: Ahban
Both of your scenarios won't work without more water, or something else to make up the missing volume. Whatever makes up the missing volume, it's back to missing now. What was this stuff? Where did it come from? Where did it go?

The most superficially plausible scenario I've seen is the one where there were no mountains at all before the flood, so all the land was flat and easily floodable. The flood convulsion raised all the waters and sank the depths. There's no missing volume.

Among the problems with that idea is the age of the mountains of earth. They should all be the same age if the above scenario is true. They aren't.

The Appalachians are very old and worn down. About the youngest top sediment layer you can find here is the Permian, before there were dinosaurs.

The Himalayas are very young. They contain whale fossils. They're still growing from the plate collision of India and Asia. The mountains of earth have different ages.

The total list of flood geology problems is quite extensive. What a flood does is not what the world looks like.

106 posted on 04/17/2002 1:04:42 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: lexcorp
If it is right to question a large set of extraordinary claims (crystal magic power, socialism, gun registration, etc.), then it is right to question ALL extraordinary claims. And hold all such claims to a standard appropriate to their extraordinariness.

NO OTHER BOOK HAS BEEN EXAMINED LIKE THE BIBLE HAS, AND NO OTHER BOOK HAS BEEN PROVEN RIGHT ALL THE TIME LIKE THE BIBLE HAS. SURELY YOU KOW THIS, RIGHT?

107 posted on 04/17/2002 1:43:53 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: ArGee
It rained for 40 days and forty nights...after 7 months the Ark came to rest...at the beginning of the tenth month, dry land was visible, and the dove was sent forth...
112 posted on 04/17/2002 3:03:44 PM PDT by The Giant Apricots
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To: Junior
I thought I saw a Unicorn grazing nearby.
113 posted on 04/17/2002 3:18:33 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse
I hear the air is awfully "thin" in the Andes and it can cause one to hallucinate. (you sure it wasn't bigfoot?)
114 posted on 04/17/2002 3:52:49 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: lexcorp
I guess you're not as well read as I thought. I can offer you some books. Interested? The first one is a Bible itself.
115 posted on 04/17/2002 6:10:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: lexcorp
when group B says that God says something unlikely and unsubstantiated..." they need to prove that god actually said it. And that the "God" being quoted is actually the God they claim it to be.

You know, it doesn't matter what I have to say God said or what anyone else says that God said for that matter. I find He pretty much speaks for himself. We tend to just get in the way

Exodus 3
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 3
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

God said all of these things. It's in His Word, not mine. But it was good enough for the Hebrews, good enough for the first century Christians, and believe it or not good enough for the Founders of this nation (of who 52 of 55 were active in their local churches, source M.E. Bradford). But just because you choose not to believe does not invalidate the fact that God is alive and well. This is not Allah, Buddha, Jim Jones, the sacred cow, green M&Ms, or a tree. While God made them all, just as He created You and me, we have free will. God gives us that. Perhaps His second greatest gift. The choice to decide. But understand, your decision one way or another does not effect the very existence of the Almighty and the fact that he flooded the world to destroy evil leaving only Noah and his family

116 posted on 04/17/2002 8:15:24 PM PDT by billbears
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To: lexcorp
That's silly.

Silly or not, you're talking about the Genesis flood so you should base it on the Genesis story. Genesis establishes that eating meat began after the flood.

I realize that you don't believe in any of Genesis, but you started by basing your argument on the Genesis account, so you should accurately quote that account.

Shalom.

117 posted on 04/18/2002 7:00:54 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: lexcorp
And since we don't find "the global flood" in every religion..

I was responding to the comment that there are variants in every religion. I'm not an expert on every religion ever thought of.

However, the point still stands. The fact that it is a "common myth" is not proof that it never happened. Quite the contrary, it's more evidence that something did happen that is widely believed to be a global flood. It's similar to the question about dragon legends being in many different cultures with different cultural backgrounds. That suggests (doesn't prove) that there may have actually been some creature that spawned the legend of the dragon.

Shalom.

118 posted on 04/18/2002 8:05:09 AM PDT by ArGee
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