Bush backs right to bear arms

newsmax | 5/7/02

[demlosers]

wooooohooooo!

[in the Arena]

Big Bang !!!

[Ragin1]

There you go being obvious.

[MJY1288]

I didn't see any of them on ICC bill thread either

[BushMeister]

The odd thing about that Miller decision is that it would seem to point a big neon arrow at military-style automatic rifles as something the 2nd Amendment says are OK to own, since they are exactly the type of weapon used in a militia function (instant military force from among the citizenry).

[Senator Pardek]

Har - I see this a victory of sorts. I'm not dumb enough to believe the Administration will try to get the ball rolling on repealing some of the idiotic federal laws (because Congress would scoff at the notion), but it seems they won't suggest new laws with the same zeal as the last two administrations.

The glass is always half full for ol' Pardek (though the contents are often bourbon)...

[jwalsh07]

After East Timor he has been asked to speak to a large crowd of Branch Dividians and then a small stadium full of Cubans from South Florida :-)

LOL. With Luis Gonzales as Master of Ceremonies.

[anniegetyourgun]

And while you're at it - check out #17 - always looking for a means to crap on the administration. You'd think that there shouldn't be a law in this country against oh say, the sale of faulty firearms. Nope, we can't have that....

[Standing Wolf]

"This action is proof positive that the worst fears about Attorney General Ashcroft have come true – his extreme ideology on guns has now become government policy," fumed Michael D. Barnes, president of Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, the anti-gun-rights group associated with famous gun buyer Sarah Brady.

Leftists are to American civil rights
as the A.I.D.S. virus is to health!

[boris]

"Here is the text of the Second Amendment: "'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'"

No. The Second Amendment has only a single comma.

--Boris 3 posted on 5/7/02 6:14 PM Pacific by boris

[Frohickey]

The Supreme Court last ruled on the scope of the Second Amendment in 1939, according to AP. The amendment protects only those rights that have "some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well regulated militia," the court opined then.

By this ruling, the amendment must pertain to those types of arms that are currently used by the military. Military uses tanks, howitzers, cannons, missiles, grenades, rockets, full-auto machine guns, selective-fire battle rifles, bolt-action rifles, semi-automatic short-barrelled shotguns, pump-action shotguns, selective-fire submachine guns and semi-automatic pistols.

Seems to me that all of these should be available to the well-regulated militia as well (all persons between 18 and 45), or else the government is not following the Miller ruling.

[Hoosier Patriot]

That right, however, is "subject to reasonable restrictions designed to prevent possession by unfit persons or to restrict the possession of types of firearms that are particularly suited to criminal misuse."

Unfit persons? Well, that leaves a bit of room for interpretation now doesn't it?

Suited to criminal misuse? Hmmmmm.... Sounds a bit broad also.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm happy that they've come down on the side of the 2nd being an individual right, but the devil is in the details here it seems.

[mlibertarianj]

Sorry to disappoint you, but if W does something right I will support him, as this is the case. But if he does wrong I call him on it also. Isn't amazing how the first admendment works, especially when sacred cows get gored? My loyalty is to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA not to who is running it, whether it is GW or Clinton (amazing isn't it, I was once called a Clinton basher when he was in office, not that I put GW anywhere near that scoundrel). If this soothes you, I haven't decided to vote against GW in '04, since he has two years left, and generally think that he is doing a decent job, but I will leave it to my decision, whether to vote for him and not drink Kool-Aid, just because Rush, Sean or others deemed it so!

[Cacique]

I reserve the right to crap on the administration when it deserves to be crapped on. This wishy washy spineless approach to government and abandonment of conservative and constituional principles will not wash. This RINO administration had better understand that it is fast losing the conservative support that it will need come 2004. Giving amnesty to the millions of illegal aliens will not save them as they will not be eligible to vote in the next election, and besides they will likely vote democratic anyway.

But maybe it's all a sham to con us all into thinking there is a difference between the parties. In the end it doesn't seem to matter.

[HiTech RedNeck]

OPPS, wait that can be subject to criminal misuse as well

In fact the vast, vast majority of guns that ARE criminally misused are ordinary pistols. Not those horrible demonic automatic weapons.

[anniegetyourgun]

Yeah, yeah....heard it all before. Go ahead and check out and enjoy the irrelevance.

[jokemoke]

OK, I'm giving W a pass on sending the jerk off in chief to East Timor. I thinks sending the jerk to East Timor is smart thinking. Get the jerk away from the USA for about 4 months so he can't campaign for any incumbent Senators or Representatives. Plus, when you think about it, how much damage can he cause in East Timor anyway?

[anniegetyourgun]

Good for you.

[anniegetyourgun]

I thought so too. Besides, just think of the fodder it will make for late night television hosts/comedians!

[Terriergal]

restrict the possession of types of firearms that are particularly suited to criminal misuse.

Exactly which firearms are NOT suited to criminal misuse?