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Parents protest sex ed change
sacbee.com ^ | Thursday, May 23, 2002 | J.D. Sparks -- Neighbors Staff Writer

Posted on 05/23/2002 12:00:49 PM PDT by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:36:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A San Juan district proposal to add lessons on condoms in high schools angers some. The San Juan Unified School District's curriculum and standards committee voted to adopt material from a sex education textbook despite the objections of some parents who felt it is too explicit.


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TOPICS: Announcements; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: abstinance; ca; condom; sacramento; sanjuan; schools; sex; sexed
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1 posted on 05/23/2002 12:00:50 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: saundra duffy; elk grove dan; gophack; burlem;
PP? ping for unsafe schools <)))
2 posted on 05/23/2002 12:05:42 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Morris said that parents objected to schools usurping their roles. She said parents wanted to be able to teach their children about sex in the manner they saw fit. She said members also were upset because parents were not allowed to preview the supplemental material.

One of the greatest of all parental responsibilities is teaching our kids about sex. We have been crazy to turn this enormous responsibility over to the secular humanist bureaucrats who run our schools.

4 posted on 05/23/2002 12:15:47 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: let freedom sing
Every time I see this issue crop up I have to wonder just how much of an intellectual challenge these educators think that employment of a condom presents to a young person capable of running a computer or a drug-selling enterpreneurial effort...
5 posted on 05/23/2002 12:19:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: let freedom sing
and textbooks that encourage only abstinence don't work with teens, she said.

Apparently textbooks that teach about birth control aren't working either.

6 posted on 05/23/2002 12:25:44 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: BurkeCalhounDabney
* - NOTE: If you want to see the statistics, I'll be happy to provide them again, as I have repeatedly done in the past. Link me to them please. My typical kneejerk reaction is, When the parents of these kids say "NO", where do these clowns get off saying "Tough $HIT", we'll do it anyway.??? Seems enough reason to bust somebody's nose! Blackbird.
7 posted on 05/23/2002 12:27:01 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: let freedom sing
This is what I submitted on their form:

Your passage of the new sex education program is another reason never to send my kids to public schools.

As a taxpayer, I am angry that you feel is it appropriate to have condom demonstrations with 15 year old kids in a co-ed classroom. All parents should have the right to opt-in to this program, not only opt-out.

Some people have said that abstinence-only sex education doesn't work. Well, when you tell students that abstinence is best but if you don't want to abstain then let me show you how to use a condom, of course they don't take you seriously. You are actually encouraging them to have sex, basically wink-wink we have to tell you not to have sex, but here's how to do it.

Is it any wonder that teen-age pregnancies are up, STD's are rampant, suicide is prevelent, and self-esteem is low? 15-year-olds can not emotionally handle the responsibility of a sexual relationship.

I hope you reconsider your decision. Thank you for having this form to share my concerns.


8 posted on 05/23/2002 12:44:31 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: let freedom sing
"To only preach abstinence is to sacrifice our kids to tough consequences and lifelong mistakes. We need to give them the information and skills to decide what their boundaries are and to be able to say 'no,' " she said.

Hmmmmm...

Well, let's see: I've been completely abstinent for 28 years. Getting married in late July. Looking over the long haul, it wasn't that hard a thing to do...

(BTW, we still haven't kissed yet. Ever. Meaning, not even another girl or guy. Would love to present THAT as evidence to this school board :-)

It hasn't been difficult holding on to virginity all these years. Once it's settled in one's mind that he/she will hold off on that sensation until it can be shared with the one person you want to share your body with totally, it's a remarkably easy thing to do.

But I want to make another point: curbing one's sexual desires until the right one and the right moment is good for a person... and it's good for society! For the individual, it almost always leads to bending one's energies into other creative outlets, such as art, writing, sports, etc. A person rises above the more carnal instincts and begins developing all his/her God-given talents, becoming more of the person He made us to be.

But, when the sex drive is enticed to its ultimate peak before a person is ready, he or she will become less enamoured of love and more ensnared by petty sensation. Energies are increasingly spent on satiating those senses, at cost to personal development. The person stagnates.

What, then, is the cumulative effect on a society, when an entire generation has been encouraged to throw their limits to the wind, and cling to the passing moment?

Public schools are the breeding pit of cultural decadence. They're too tempting a target for those who see a fast buck to be made from leading our kids astray: that's too easy a thing to let them get by with. Wanna revitalize this country out of stagnancy? Yank the kids out of state-run schools and teach 'em yourself!

9 posted on 05/23/2002 12:46:12 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: let freedom sing
despite the objections of some parents who felt it is too explicit.

Ha. Wait until the GLADD fisting classes start.

10 posted on 05/23/2002 12:46:43 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: let freedom sing
parents were not allowed to preview the supplemental material.

Yep. Gladd indoctrination material 101.

11 posted on 05/23/2002 12:48:06 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: let freedom sing
Not all teens have parents they can talk to

Not all teens have public school teachers who won't try to have sex with them, either. What's your point?

12 posted on 05/23/2002 12:50:45 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Darth Sidious
Yank the kids out of state-run schools and teach 'em yourself!

You bet! Get them out before it's too late to save them.

13 posted on 05/23/2002 12:53:36 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Darth Sidious
But, when the sex drive is enticed to its ultimate peak before a person is ready, he or she will become less enamoured of love and more ensnared by petty sensation. Energies are increasingly spent on satiating those senses, at cost to personal development. The person stagnates.

There is so much truth to this. We have made ourselves obsessed with sex. Like other pleasurable sensations, it really can be done without for long periods of time. Those who learn that secret are much freer and more liberated than those who don't.

15 posted on 05/23/2002 1:18:36 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: let freedom sing
We need to give them the information and skills to decide what their boundaries are

But based on what!??? The condom-loving "safe"-sex people have no criterion for telling students when they should have sex and when they should not. Telling them to establish their boundaries is another way of telling them to do whatever they want. That is not the message I want for my kids. I will protect my kids from these damaging messages.

16 posted on 05/23/2002 1:22:26 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Gophack;BurkeCalhounDabney; yendu bwam;Billthedrill; A Ruckus of Dogs; BlackbirdSST...
Thanks for your visceral (gut, not hateful) comments. My comments to SJUSC were much too cerebral, they probably went right over the head-between-their-legs administration, and into the trash can.
17 posted on 05/23/2002 1:42:59 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: Gophack;BurkeCalhounDabney; yendu bwam;Billthedrill; A Ruckus of Dogs; BlackbirdSST...
they probably went right over the head-between-their-legs administration,

cancel, cancel-- make that "head-between-YOUR-legs." LOL

18 posted on 05/23/2002 1:47:21 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Some kids will smoke, take drugs, drink alcohol, cheat on tests, skip class, lie.... and we don't give them the down and dirty on those activities.

Let me see if I understand them. We should cater to the kids who choose the wrong behavior while ignoring the harm we may inflict on the kids who would otherwise, had their interest not been spurred or their comfort level raised, chosen right behavior.

Really smart. /sarcasm

19 posted on 05/23/2002 1:57:47 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: BurkeCalhounDabney
First, sorry for the inconvenience. Great stats, thanks. Appauling state of affairs, the unwed part. Copy and Paste them into wordpad or something, then they are always handy, cause you know the nature of a place like FR, there is always someone who missed it the last time around. Blackbird.
20 posted on 05/23/2002 4:11:52 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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