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1 posted on 06/23/2002 8:03:20 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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LOL! MS and security.
2 posted on 06/23/2002 8:12:20 AM PDT by zx2dragon
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First bag of microwave popcorn is in. Grabbing a Coke. This is going to be fun!
3 posted on 06/23/2002 8:13:37 AM PDT by rdb3
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To ensure security, the system requires special security chips, which Intel and Advanced Microdevices have agreed to produce.

Let's take predictions right now how long after (before?) it's release 'Palladium' is hacked?

Another MS promise on security. And this one in 'Newsweek'? Not even a tech mag. What are the odds that 'Newsweek' will be the one to first report on a cutting-edge solution to security?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 32 times?

5 posted on 06/23/2002 8:18:36 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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Gee. Another thread on which to bash Microsoft. Don't you guys ever sleep?

Look. Nothing is 100% secure. It's a numbers game. Companies put the blockades up and seemingly endless numbers of people work on taking them down. If you believe that anyone can solve computer security 100% for all time, then you are living in dreamland.

But if bashing Microsoft gives you pleasure, knock yourselves out.

8 posted on 06/23/2002 8:34:46 AM PDT by Glenn
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This isn't just about solving problems, but expanding new realms of possibilities in the way people live and work with computers

Translation: New way for MS to gain more control of you computer and the Internet.

10 posted on 06/23/2002 8:46:07 AM PDT by ibme
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says Dave Farber, a renowned Internet guru. "But if they screw up, I'll squeal like a bloody pig."

get ready hog-boy dave....

16 posted on 06/23/2002 9:02:07 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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If Microsoft claims Palladium will make your PC the safest it has ever been, hackers worldwide will just see it as a personal challenge. It's like a parent saying to their child, "Don't you dare look in that closet!" You know that child would immediately try anything to get in the closet. I predict Palladium would be cracked within a week of its official release.
17 posted on 06/23/2002 9:02:56 AM PDT by Genesis defender
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The plan will also limit what arrives (and runs on) your computer according to where it comes from and who creates it.

Translation: non-Microsoft software will encounter "problems"

21 posted on 06/23/2002 10:16:28 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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I'm certain there are some good, sound, innovative ideas to be found in this concept, but what worries me is the gratuitous inclusion of copyright issues when Microsoft still haven't shown any signs that they've begun to take security seriously. Maybe I've missed the signs, if so I'd welcome links to info on actual changes taking place (seriously, I'm interested. No flames, please).

I suspect that the real motivation behind this development is the inclusion of the firmware that would just happen to give Hollywood, Tokyo and Madison Avenue absolute control over the data users decide to store on their systems.

24 posted on 06/23/2002 11:16:47 AM PDT by dwollmann
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"I'm willing to take a chance that the benefits are more than the potential downside," says Dave Farber, a renowned Internet guru. "But if they screw up, I'll squeal like a bloody pig."


"He's got a real purty mouth, ain't he?"

36 posted on 06/24/2002 9:23:52 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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Here's a beauty:

I've been writing a piece of music and recorded a draft of it about a week ago onto my Win2000 machine with SoundForge.  I then converted it to .mp3 with AudioCatalyst and uploaded it to my website.

Yesterday I downloaded it on my personal laptop at work, so I could hear it through different speakers.  When I opened it with Media Player 7, the digital media security kernel kicked in and brought up a dialog box stating that I was opening a piece of music "recorded from a CD" and asking me if I wanted "migrate my license" and warning me about copyright infringements.

ON MY OWN MUSIC AND ON MY OWN MACHINES.

If such a simple security concept is already that screwed up, how does MS think it's going to credibly expand in that area?  Palladium will just continue to prove that MS has expanded into markets it can't competently code in.

37 posted on 06/26/2002 6:16:20 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To ensure security, the system requires special security chips, which Intel and Advanced Microdevices have agreed to produce.

What crap. A properly designed system (to serve the security interests of the user, not the desire of Billgatus of Borg to control what can run on your computer) should be in software that can be installed or not as one sees fit.

40 posted on 06/28/2002 6:48:57 AM PDT by steve-b
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