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Defense could pin hopes on insect life
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | June 30, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 06/30/2002 2:28:31 PM PDT by MizSterious

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To: sbnsd
If this were the case, and there was obvious evidence to clear him, why did we go through the whole trial? Why wouldn't the DA look at that and say, "Oh, OK, well if we don't have the right guy, we need to go find the real murderer."

I've just adorned my CRABBY COMMENTARY CAPE from one of the perspectives I can see -- there are others. :)

Because of the rampant and overbearing paternalism that is institutionalized thoughout all levels of government and is pretty much pervasive everywhere else in our society, there is a necessity make the general public PERCEIVE the bad man is locked up.

Its necessary to solve crimes and any other problem within a soundbite or at most within the 22 minutes per hour of television time the audience is capable of holding its attention span. It all has to do with the complete contempt our "leaders" and the media have for the general public. Throw 'em a bone and shut them the he!! up !

And contrary to what Judge Mudd claims for the viewing and listening public, this has very little about finding the truth or justice for Danielle. If it did, the extra unaccounted for finger prints in the Van Dam home and lack of evidence that Westerfield was even in the Van Dam home, along with unmatched tire castings on Dehesa Road to the motorhome would have cleared him already and far more resources and time would have been expended on finding "the truth". As has been mentioned earlier, DW could have been held on the kittie[sic] porn charge for a while to bide the time to build the case against him or exclude him more thoroughly.

The other on-file sexual predators living in that neighborhood could have been more closely focussed on, but they weren't. Because such investigations cost money and takes time. Something a budget and soundbite conscious paternalistic local government, DA and judiciary are more than aware of they didn't have.

So instead, we have CTV's Nancy Grace and friends, pleading for local farmers to bring their torches and pitchforks and rally around the bellfrey.
61 posted on 07/01/2002 1:24:17 PM PDT by pyx
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Closed-door sessions set for Monday

July 1, 2002

The judge and attorneys in closed-door hears in the David Westerfield trial have resumed their work at 1 p.m., following a lunch break.

A closed-door hearing in the murder trial was set to discuss a number of issues, including whether prosecutors will be allowed to call one more witness before concluding their case-in-chief. Westerfield, 50, is charged with kidnapping, murder and misdemeanor possession of child pornography in the disappearance and killing of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam. The self-employed design engineer could get the death penalty if convicted of the felony charges.

Superior Court Judge William Mudd told defense attorney Steven Feldman to be ready to call his first witness tomorrow. The attorney said he could be done with his case by July 15.

Feldman told the judge that he would call a forensic entomologist to the stand if prosecutors don't.

The specialist -- who studies the interaction between insects and cadavers -- could be called on to pinpoint the time of Danielle's death.

In his opening statement, Feldman said the child's nude body could have been placed off a road in Dehesa as late as Feb. 16, a dozen days after his client came under 24-hour surveillance by law enforcement.

Prosecutors theorize that Westerfield killed the 7-year-old and dumped her body at the East County site shortly after she disappeared Feb. 2. Volunteer searchers found the girl's decomposing body on Feb. 27.

Westerfield was arrested Feb. 22.

A volunteer handler testified last week that two search dogs alerted several times while sniffing in Westerfield's motorhome four days after the victim was reported missing.

Jim Frazee, who helps the San Diego Sheriff's Department, said his dogs searched the 1997 Southwind motorhome Feb. 6 at a vehicle storage facility on Aero Drive.

The first dog, Hopi, was sent in to search specifically for Danielle's scent, Frazee said. Hopi went into the galley area, the witness said, ``and turned around immediately and came back.''

Frazee explained earlier that Hopi was trained to return to his handler as soon as he found a scent. Hopi was sent back inside several minutes later. ``He jumped up on the sofa on the driver's side,'' Frazee testified, and remained there about five seconds.

His other dog, Cielo, showed considerable interest in an exterior storage compartment behind the passenger-side door, Frazee said.

Cielo, trained to find human remains and bodily fluids, sniffed a shovel and lawn furniture in the compartment for about 15 seconds, according to Frazee.

Frazee said that when he tried to take Cielo to another compartment, the dog sat down and barked, which is his alert signal.

Under cross-examination by defense attorney Robert Boyce, Frazee conceded that he did not report the dogs' reactions because his supervisor was watching them.

Mitchell Holland, the laboratory director of the Bode Technology Group, said a blood stain from the motorhome carpet and a hair found in the bathroom sink were compared to a known sample from the 7-year-old victim.

Regarding the hair, Holland said the chances are ``one in 25 quadrillion'' of selecting a person at random from the Caucasian population who would have the same DNA.

When asked about the blood stain, Holland told prosecutor George ``Woody'' Clarke that the chances were ``one in 660 quadrillion'' of selecting a person at random from the Caucasian population who would have the same DNA.

``Is this an example where samples match?'' Clarke asked.

``Yes, it is,'' Holland answered.

The expert testified that he performed mitochondrial DNA testing -- different from ``nuclear'' DNA testing -- on hairs found on clothing in Westerfield's washing machine, dryer and sheets from his master bedroom in Sabre Springs.

Holland said he could not exclude Danielle van Dam as the donor of the hairs in question.

Police computer expert James Watkins completed his testimony by saying that 85 sexually oriented computer images of underage females were found in Westerfield's home.

The prosecution believes the sexually oriented material involving underage females is evidence of motive.

Watkins said the images were among at least 8,000 deemed pornographic.

Many of the photos were of large-breasted women, the expert said.

He said a total of 100,000 images were found on the computer, but many were simply icons and arrows that make operating systems work.

62 posted on 07/01/2002 1:41:00 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: pyx
I agree with what you said. I didn't really expect an answer since it was mostly a rant on my part.

I'd love to borrow your CRABBY COMMENTARY CAPE.

63 posted on 07/01/2002 1:44:08 PM PDT by sbnsd
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To: All
(And I meant to post the previous one to "all" too, sorry about that!)

There is some discussion on this board about who might have been meeting behind those closed doors. More to think about.

64 posted on 07/01/2002 1:50:16 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: sbnsd
I'd love to borrow your CRABBY COMMENTARY CAPE

Be sure and take it to the dry cleaners first...if UCANSEE2 didn't roll up his hose...you could be in trouble with seconary transfer of trace evidence.:-)

65 posted on 07/01/2002 1:51:00 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: MizSterious
He said a total of 100,000 images were found on the computer, but many were simply icons and arrows that make operating systems work.

Misleading? Overkill? Say it isn't so. They keep throwing this number out.... get over it, it doesn't apply the correct number is 8000. If you must use them both use them in the same sentence. Quit spinning.

Miz, thanks for posting this article. I had to rant. You know as well as I do, this rant in an e-mail would be ignored. These people make me nuts. Sorry, it's from the Soviet Union Tribune, that 'splains it.

66 posted on 07/01/2002 1:51:20 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Rheo
excep it would be pyx's trace evidence...unless they are incahoots....wearing boots...(little bad humor for a Monday)
67 posted on 07/01/2002 1:52:03 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Jaded
Well, Jaded, now you know darned well that Nancy Grace and all of her clones require that large figure to be mentioned. Only thing is, they neglected to add that they were all neatly and perfectly organized into folders on the hard drive (inferring, of course, that DW did the organizing, ignoring the fact that they unzip that way).

Maybe I need to borrow Pyx's cape. Or at least the sewing instructions for one of my own.

68 posted on 07/01/2002 2:00:42 PM PDT by MizSterious
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CLOSED DOOR HEARING IN WESTERFIELD TRIAL

(07-01-2002) - Prosecutors in the trial of accused child killer David Westerfield should know by the end of Monday whether they will be able to call one final witness before the defense begins presenting its case.

One of the witnesses seen entering the courtroom Monday for a closed-door hearing outside the jury's presence was Oliver Ryder.

He is an adjunct professor of biology at UCSD and works for the Center for Reproduction of Endangered Species at the San Diego Zoo.

Ryder, who has published articles on mitochondrial DNA diversity in gorillas, also is the associate editor of the Journal of Heredity.

Superior Court Judge William Mudd has told defense attorney Steven Feldman to be ready to call his first witness Tuesday. Feldman has indicated he should be able to conclude his case by July 15.

Feldman told the judge he plans to call insect expert David Faulkner to the stand to try to pinpoint the time of Danielle's death.

In his opening statement, Feldman said the child's nude body could have been placed off a road in Dehesa as late as Feb. 16, a dozen days after his client came under 24-hour surveillance by law enforcement.

Prosecutors theorize that 50-year-old Westerfield, a twice-divorced father, killed the Sabre Springs second-grader and dumped her body at the East County site shortly after she disappeared Feb. 2. Volunteer searchers found the girl's decomposing body on Feb. 27.

Westerfield was arrested Feb. 22.

Westerfield is charged with kidnapping, murder and misdemeanor possession of child pornography in the disappearance and killing of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam. The self-employed design engineer could get the death penalty if convicted of the felony charges.

69 posted on 07/01/2002 2:31:57 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious; All
"Under cross examination by defense attorney Robert Boyce, Frazee conceded that he did not report the dogs' reactions because his supervisor was watching them."

I am having a great deal of difficulty understanding this...What is wrong with this picture?

sw

70 posted on 07/01/2002 2:34:38 PM PDT by spectre
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Judge May Allow One More Prosecution Witness

Posted: 9:31 a.m. PDT July 1, 2002
Updated: 11:58 a.m. PDT July 1, 2002

SAN DIEGO -- The judge presiding over the David Westerfield trial will conduct a closed-door hearing Monday to determine whether prosecutors will be allowed to call one more witness before concluding their case.

Westerfield, 50, is charged with kidnapping, murder and misdemeanor possession of child pornography in the disappearance and killing of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam. The self-employed design engineer could get the death penalty if convicted of the felony charges.

Superior Court Judge William Mudd told defense attorney Steven Feldman to be ready to call his first witness Tuesday. The attorney said he could be done with his case by July 15. Feldman told the judge that he would call a forensic entomologist to the stand if prosecutors don't.

The specialist -- who studies the interaction between insects and cadavers -- could be called on to pinpoint the time of Danielle's death.

In his opening statement, Feldman said the child's nude body could have been placed off a road in Dehesa as late as Feb. 16, a dozen days after his client came under 24-hour surveillance by law enforcement.

Prosecutors theorize that Westerfield killed the 7-year-old and dumped her body at the East County site shortly after she disappeared Feb. 2. Volunteer searchers found the girl's decomposing body on Feb. 27.

Westerfield was arrested Feb. 22.

A volunteer handler testified last week that two search dogs alerted several times while sniffing in Westerfield's motor home four days after the victim was reported missing.

Jim Frazee, who helps the San Diego Sheriff's Department, said that his dogs searched the 1997 Southwind motor home Feb. 6 at a vehicle storage facility on Aero Drive.

The first dog, Hopi, was sent in to search specifically for Danielle's scent, Frazee said. Hopi went into the galley area, the witness said, "and turned around immediately and came back."

Frazee explained earlier that Hopi was trained to return to his handler as soon as he found a scent. Hopi was sent back inside several minutes later.

"He jumped up on the sofa on the driver's side," Frazee testified, and remained there about five seconds.

His other dog, Cielo, showed considerable interest in an exterior storage compartment behind the passenger-side door, Frazee said.

Cielo, trained to find human remains and bodily fluids, sniffed a shovel and lawn furniture in the compartment for about 15 seconds, according to Frazee.

Frazee said that when he tried to take Cielo to another compartment, the dog sat down and barked, which is his alert signal.

Under cross-examination by defense attorney Robert Boyce, Frazee conceded that he did not report the dogs' reactions because his supervisor was watching them.

Mitchell Holland, the laboratory director of the Bode Technology Group, said a blood stain from the motor home carpet and a hair found in the bathroom sink were compared to a known sample from the 7-year-old victim.

Regarding the hair, Holland said the chances are "one in 25 quadrillion" of selecting a person at random from the Caucasian population who would have the same DNA.

When asked about the blood stain, Holland told prosecutor George Clarke that the chances were "one in 660 quadrillion" of selecting a person at random from the Caucasian population who would have the same DNA.

"Is this an example where samples match?" Clarke asked.

"Yes, it is," Holland answered.

The expert testified that he performed mitochondrial DNA testing -- different from "nuclear" DNA testing -- on hairs found on clothing in Westerfield's washing machine, dryer and sheets from his master bedroom in Sabre Springs.

Holland said that he could not exclude Danielle van Dam as the donor of the hairs in question.

71 posted on 07/01/2002 2:37:46 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Rheo; sbnsd
ROFL !
72 posted on 07/01/2002 2:40:38 PM PDT by pyx
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To: MizSterious
Great link. Thanks !
73 posted on 07/01/2002 2:41:40 PM PDT by pyx
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To: MizSterious
Does the zoo guy mean they are bringing back in the beastiality stuff?? :-)
74 posted on 07/01/2002 2:45:29 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo
That would certainly brighten the day for certain factions. ;)

75 posted on 07/01/2002 3:14:18 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
BTTT
76 posted on 07/01/2002 3:25:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: MizSterious
And will the real Layla please bark twice!!!..or at least once.
77 posted on 07/01/2002 3:50:54 PM PDT by Rheo
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Were any of Layla's hairs color-treated?
78 posted on 07/01/2002 8:20:51 PM PDT by BigBobber
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Were any of Layla's hairs color-treated?

Maybe....in case they test her for doggy downers!!

She went from a pain in the arse, jump all over and slobber ya dog to a mild, docile creature in a matter of days.:-)

79 posted on 07/01/2002 8:30:17 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo
Good morning, all. Here we go today. Finally, we get to hear the other side.

So far, we have managed to keep this thread a Spam-free zone.

Looking forward to some new material to discuss this morning.

Let us pray....sw

80 posted on 07/02/2002 5:59:39 AM PDT by spectre
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