Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Suspected November 17 Terrorist Admits CIA Killing
Europe Daily ^ | July 26 2002 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2002 3:35:13 PM PDT by knighthawk

ATHENS, Greece (AP) — A telephone operator arrested for being a leader of Greece's deadly November 17 terrorist group admitted taking part in the 1975 killing of a CIA official and said the triggerman already is in police custody, judicial sources said Friday.

The surprise confession by alleged second-in-command Pavlos Serifis added important details about the ambush killing of CIA station chief Richard Welch outside a Christmas party — a killing that launched a 27-year string of assassinations, bombings and robberies by the once-untouchable group.

Serifis also admitted participating in the 1980 slayings of two Greek policemen and said the same man who shot Welch was one of the two assassins, judicial sources said on condition of anonymity.

The sources said the late-night confession also bolstered authorities' belief that they have captured November 17's mastermind — white-haired, 58-year-old Alexandros Giotopoulos, who denies any connection to terrorist band.

Serifis, a 46-year-old telephone operator at an Athens children's hospital, at first denied any link to November 17 after his arrest Wednesday in the northern city of Karditsa.

But late Thursday, he began detailing his involvement in Welch's killing in a confession ending just before dawn, judicial sources said on condition of anonymity.

Serifis, who was 19 at the time Welch was killed, said he acted as a lookout. He identified the gunman as Giotopoulos.

Serifis also said he acted as a lookout in the 1980 slayings, in which Giotopoulos was one of two gunmen, judicial sources said.

Serifis has been charged with three felonies and could receive a life sentence. Because of a 20-year statute of limitations, he cannot be charged with the killings in which he admitted participation.

November 17 takes it name from the day in 1973 when Greece's military junta, which ruled from 1967 to 1974, crushed a student uprising in Athens. The group said it targeted Americans and their allies because Washington backed the dictatorship.

November 17 is linked to a total 23 slayings, including Welch and three other Americans. Its most recent victim was British defense attache Brig. Stephen Saunders in June 2000.

A total of 13 suspected November 17 members are now in custody. Most are believed to have been involved in hit squads and formed the group's ``second generation'' recruited in the mid-1980s.

Authorities believe Serifis was a link between the terror group's founders and the 1980s crew drawn to the group's ideological path: hard-line Marxism, Robin Hood-style bravado and extreme nationalism.

The latest suspect — 42-year-old Patroklos Tselentis — was expected to be formally charged Friday.

Tselentis confessed to participating in five killings, including that of U.S. defense attache Capt. William Nordeen in June 1988, and two attempted murders, including of U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency station chief George Caros, police spokesman Lefteris Ekonomou said.

He also confessed to participating in the 1987 bombing of a bus carrying U.S. servicemen that injured 13 people, police said.

Police had been unable to crack November 17 until a suspected member was injured June 29 in a failed bombing. A domino-style collapse followed as police made arrests around the country.

The fallout has spilled over to regional rival Turkey, which long has suspected November 17 of assisting militant Turkish Marxist groups.

In Ankara, Turkish deputy police chief Feyzullah Aslan said Turkish police have in the past seized weapons they believe November 17 stole from the Greek military and then sold to the outlawed Turkish group Revolutionary People's Liberation Front, also known as DHKP-C.

Aslan said there is evidence the arms trade began as far back as 1989. But he provided no other information on the weapons.

Greek government spokesman Christos Protopappas would not comment directly on any link between November 17 and Turkish groups, but vowed to explore all possible leads.

``We will not stop at November 17 and if we see connections we will inform foreign governments if it is proven,'' Protopappas said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1975; 197512; 1988; 198806; assassinationplots; billnordeen; caros; cia; dickwelch; georgecaros; greece; greek; killing; nordeen; november17; pavlosserifis; phillipagee; richardwelch; serifis; suspect; welch; williamnordeen

1 posted on 07/26/2002 3:35:13 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; keri; Turk2; ...
Ping
2 posted on 07/26/2002 3:35:39 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
What was done to make him confess??... Hmmmmmmmmm.....

We need to do the same
3 posted on 07/26/2002 3:40:21 PM PDT by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw
I bet the UN wants to know that too, with their anti-torture laws and all.
4 posted on 07/26/2002 3:42:00 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
Is Giotopoulos the mathematics professor?
5 posted on 07/26/2002 3:53:01 PM PDT by aristeides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aristeides
He is a professor according to the State Department (the page is no longer available, but on Newsday they say he 'told his friends he was a mathematics professor'. I found two Greek pages that confirm (as far as I can see) he was a university professor.
6 posted on 07/26/2002 4:07:26 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk
I have a sneaking suspicion that the U.S. has told Greece to clean up the November 17th group ASAP, or else we will not participate in the 2004 Olympics. I would also hazaard to guess, that through our intelligence agencies, especially the NSA, we have probably known who these characters are for a long time.

The Greeks have probably also known, but before now refused to act, as they have generally had an uncharitable attitude towards us since the times of Papandreou. And we certainly hurt their feelings when Clinton sided with the hated Albanians during the "rescue me from Monica" NATO engagement.

7 posted on 07/26/2002 4:29:59 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fractal Trader
I have seen some articles indeed saying that there was big international pressure to take them out. I bet these people could have been arrested earlier, it is suspicious they are all arrested in such short time and so all of the sudden.
8 posted on 07/26/2002 4:35:42 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Fractal Trader; a_Turk; knighthawk
Seems to have flowed from that premature bombing some weeks ago. the bomber was caught, and they all seem to roll over pretty fast...
9 posted on 07/26/2002 4:35:54 PM PDT by Shermy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk; All
Tselentis confessed to participating in five killings, including that of U.S. defense attache Capt. William Nordeen in June 1988, and two attempted murders, including of U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency station chief George Caros, police spokesman Lefteris Ekonomou said.

Can these guys be extradited to the US? I have no idea what our "relations" are with Greece.

10 posted on 07/26/2002 4:36:42 PM PDT by facedown
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: facedown
Europe does not extradite people to the US when there is a chance they will get the death-penalty.
11 posted on 07/26/2002 5:54:26 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: aristeides; Fedora; Cindy
1975+/- : (PHILIP AGEE, ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR A FIFTH ESTATE [OC-5] AND COUNTERSPY MAGAZINE - OC-5 IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COMMUNIST FRONT NCARL AND THE NATIONAL LAWYER'S GUILD CONFERENCE, THE CNSS, IPS - See sldo the ASSASSINATION OF CIA OPERATIVE RICHARD WELCH / NOVEMBER 17) Organizing Committee for a Fifth Estate, and Counterspy:
Philip Agee and Victor Marchetti, along with members of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, launched the journal CounterSpy, under the aegis of the Organizing Committee for a Fifth Estate (OC-5). OC-5 stated that its purpose was to develop an "alternative intelligence community. . .with the flexibility of employing both revolutionary and reformist methods. "
In an early CounterSpy article, "Exposing the CIA", Agree spelled out the OC-5 program:
"The most effective and important systematic efforts to combat the CIA that can be undertaken right now are, I think, the identification, exposure, and neutralization of its people working abroad. . .we know enough about what the CIA does to resolve to oppose it. . .
OC-5's Annual Report, published in the winter of 1975 edition of CounterSpy, describes its connections with other members of the antiintelligence lobby, all of them working within the system:
". . .Among the many conferences attended by the Fifth Estate were: the National Committee Against Repressive Legislation (NCARL) conference [NCARL was originally formed as a communist front to oppose congressional investigation of subversive organizations]; the National Lawyers Guild Conference (with whome we work closely);. . .and. . .the Center for National Security Studies."
In its first few years IPS played an important if quiet role in helping OC-5. . .On the OC-5 CounterSpy advisory board were Marcus Raskin, Victor Marchetti, Dave Dellinger of Chicago Seven fame, and several others, like Frank Donner and Sylvia Crane, both former members of the Communist party. CounterSpy's attorney was Alan Dranitzke, who was a leader of the Cuba Subcommittee of the National Lawyers Guild International Committee, and whose senior law partners include David Rein, a Communist party member, and Joseph Forer, a counsel for the Communist party, USA.
------- "VVAW and the Anti-intelligence Lobby"by S. Stephen Powell, Covert Cadre: Inside the Institute for Policy Studies (publisher: Green Hill Publishers, Inc.), 1987, From S. Stephen Powell, Covert Cadre: Inside the Institute for Policy Studies, 1987, 65-66: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1105160/posts***
***
I was doing some crossreferencing and noticed this interesting piece of information on the VVAW's links to the anti-intelligence lobby of the Church Committee era. Those familiar with Agee, etc. may remember that CounterSpy played a role in blowing the cover of CIA operative Richard Welch, which led to Welch's assassination. Powell's book describes numerous contacts between Agee and Soviet and Cuban intelligence. ------------ 1 posted on 03/25/2004 1:38:19 PM PST by Fedora

DECEMBER 1975 : (A PUBLICATION [COUNTERSPY] ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH PHILIP AGEE PUBLISHES THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF A CIA OPERATIVE IN ATHENS, GREECE BY THE NAME OF RICHARD WELCH - WELCH WAS ASSASSINATED SHORTLY THEREAFTER) In December 1975, a publication to which Agee reportedly had ties, published the name and address of CIA operative in Athens, Greece, Richard Welch. On December 23, 1975, Welch was shot to death outside his Athens home.
       The CIA blamed Agee for this death, although he denied having provided the agent's address to the publication. Agee, however, had written in the edition of the publication publishing Welch's address the following advice to foes of the CIA: "…the CIA people can be identified and exposed through periodic bulletins disseminated to our subscribers, particularly individuals and organizations in the foreign country in question. Photographs and home address in the foreign capital or Consular cities should be included… the people themselves will have to decide what they must do to rid themselves of the CIA." ------ "Philip Burnett Franklin Agee: CIA Case Officer in Latin America (1936 - )"http://www.angelfire.com/dc/1spy/Agee.html

12 posted on 12/30/2006 7:58:58 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: piasa

Thanks! BTW, Happy New Year! :-)


13 posted on 12/31/2006 5:55:12 PM PST by Fedora
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson