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Lost Inca city "El Dorado" discovered in Peruvian Amazon!
Northern Light ^ | Story Filed: Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:02 PM EST | By David Blanco Bonilla. http://www.efe.es

Posted on 07/28/2002 4:05:10 PM PDT by vannrox

"El Dorado" discovered in Peruvian Amazon, explorers claim

Story Filed: Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:02 PM EST

Lima, Jul 27, 2002 (EFE via COMTEX) -- An international team of explorers claims to have found the legendary Inca city of gold that the Spanish knew as "El Dorado," deep in the heart of the Peruvian Amazon.

The quest began on June 30, when more than two dozen researchers began combing the wild and unexplored jungle region along the basin of the Madre de Dios River.

El Dorado, called "Paititi" by the region's Indian population, is known as the last bastion of the Incas as they sought refuge from advancing Spanish conquistadors.

The leader of the expedition, the Polish-Italian journalist and explorer Jacek Palkiewicz, told EFE Saturday he was very pleased with the expedition and felt "certain" he had found El Dorado.

After two years of research and exploration, Palkiewicz said, the lost city had been found in an area adjoining the Manu national park, southeast of Lima.

The journey to El Dorado has allowed the researchers to confirm all the written accounts and myths surrounding the lost city, including reports that it was a 10-day walk from Cuzco, the ancient capital of the Inca empire.

Palkiewicz said he was most surprised to learn that stories of the city being under a lake were completely accurate.

The lake has been discovered in a four-square-kilometer (1.5-square-mile) plateau totally covered in vegetation.

Russian specialists taking part in the expedition used terrestrial radar to confirm the existence of an underwater network of caverns and tunnels.

According to legend, the treasures of the last Inca rulers were buried under the lake.

He added that a final extensive expedition would be carried out in October and would include scientists specializing in the study of caves.

Palkiewicz said he had found traces of pre-Inca constructions, which indicate that the Incas had only begun to colonize the area shortly before arrival of the Spanish conquistadors.

The man described by Britain's Guardian newspaper as a "self-styled academic" did not rule out the existence of other Inca constructions, but said the dense jungle and the region's torrential rains prevented the team from investigating further.

The expedition, which was made up of scientists from Argentina, Italy, Poland, Russia and Peru, used terrestrial radar and satellites to locate the lost city.

The journey was planned after two previous visits to the area and was given a further boost by the discovery of a 16th-century manuscript ostensibly proving that El Dorado had been discovered by Jesuit missionaries.

In the manuscript, which was found in the Vatican archives of the Society of Jesus, the pope authorizes the Jesuits to evangelize the Indians of Paititi.

Palkiewicz, a teacher of survival skills who has written some 20 books about his journeys to the most remote areas of the planet, has extensive experience in the Amazon jungles.

In 1996, he led another expedition that succeeded in locating the true source of the Amazon River.

His most recent expedition had a budget of more than $1 million and received the symbolic support of Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo, Poland's Aleksander Kwasniewski and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

Efforts to locate the legendary city began with the arrival of Spanish conquerors in 1532.

Rumors of a jungle city that supposedly held priceless treasures to be used to pay the ransom of the last Inca ruler, Atahualpa, prompted searches of the region.

Many previous El Dorado expeditions ended in disaster on account of the region's hostile environment and difficult terrain.

One such failed expedition took place in 1925, when famous British explorer Col. Peter Fawcett disappeared in western Brazil while looking for the city.

In 1970, a French-American expedition led by Serge Debru disappeared, most likely at the hands of Huachipairi Indians.

A 1997 expedition led by Norwegian anthropologist Lars Hafksjold also disappeared after setting out for the Madidi River, not far from the site of Palkiewicz's discovery.


    By David Blanco Bonilla.
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By David Blanco Bonilla.

http://www.efe.es

Copyright (c) 2002. Agencia EFE S.A.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amazon; discoveryamazing; eldorado; explorer; godsgravesglyphs; history; inca; paititi; past; peru
Exciting discovery.
1 posted on 07/28/2002 4:05:11 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
.He added that a final extensive expedition would be carried out in October and would include scientists specializing in the study of caves.

Maybe they could run the al Qaeda folks through those caves first.
2 posted on 07/28/2002 4:08:29 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: vannrox
This IS exciting news... :0)
3 posted on 07/28/2002 4:16:12 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs
Bump.
4 posted on 07/28/2002 4:17:22 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Ride, boldly ride. Bump. parsy.
5 posted on 07/28/2002 4:20:23 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: vannrox
Scientist: Legendary City of El Dorado Exists
By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News


Feb. 25 — El Dorado, the fabled city of gold, did exist and was even evangelized by Jesuit missionaries, according to the findings of a Lima University archaeologist.

Called "Paititi" by the Incas and "El Dorado" by the Spaniards, the mythical city is thought to have been the last place of refuge for the Incas when they fled with their treasures ahead of the advancing Spanish conquerors in 1532.

Mario Polia, an Italian archaeologist who teaches at Lima's Pontifical Catholic University, discovered an ancient document that describes a city with walls covered in gold leaf.

"Paititi is not a myth, it really existed. It was discovered at the end of the 16th century by missionaries of the Society of Jesus, who converted the king and his court," Polia wrote in the latest issue of the archaeological review Archeo.
The "report of a miracle that took place in the Kingdom of Paititi for God's mercy" is part of a collection called "Peruana Historia" (Peruvian history), kept in the Roman Archives of the Society of Jesus.

It tells of the extraordinary encounter of Father Andrea Lopez with the inhabitants of Paititi, "a very wealthy city adorned with gold, silver and precious stones."

According to the report, the order's Father General informed the Pope of the discovery, asking and obtaining permission to evangelize the area. Polia believes that the Vatican never revealed Paititi's location, fearing a gold rush and mass hysteria.

El Dorado has lured many explorer over the past five centuries: among them famed British army surveyor Colonel Percy Harrison Fawcett, who left in search of Paititi in 1925, and more recently, a 1972 Franco- American expedition led by Bob Nichols, and the 1997 exploration of Norwegian anthropologist Lars Hafksjold.

The latest explorer to set off in search of the legend is Jacek Palkiewicz, best known for discovering the real source of the Amazon river in 1996. Palkiewicz left last week for a reconnaissance trip into the inaccessible jungles of the Madre de Dios River basin. He will then begin a systematic search in June with the help of state-of-the art technology.

"I have been working on this project for two years. I even pinpointed a waterfall and a square lake which, according to legend, lead to Paititi. There are extremely good chances I will find El Dorado," Palkiewicz told Discovery News.

But Polia is skeptical. "This sounds like another groundless claim. I know for sure Paititi is not in the Madre de Dios area, namely where everybody has been looking," he said.

Brian S. Bauer, assistant professor of anthropology at the University of Illinois at Chicago and one of the leading authorities on the Inca, is also skeptical.

"All this only shows that the dream of finding a lost city of gold is as strong for us today as it was for the Spaniards in the 17th century, " he said.



Seems Palkiewicz's critics have a little egg on their faces.


6 posted on 07/28/2002 4:30:37 PM PDT by lizma
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To: blam
Bong!
7 posted on 07/28/2002 4:50:47 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: snopercod; Squantos; joanie-f; ladyinred; TPartyType; Covenantor; brityank; vannrox
Russian specialists taking part in the expedition used terrestrial radar to confirm the existence of an underwater network of caverns and tunnels.

another and the last, tip

8 posted on 07/28/2002 4:53:35 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: vannrox; Carry_Okie
Thanks for the ping. Anyone have a map of this area? (I looked but couldn't find one.)

Also, does anyone know the name of the lake?

9 posted on 07/28/2002 5:06:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: vannrox
(another related article)

Britons Find Lost City Of The Incas (Paititi?)

10 posted on 07/28/2002 5:11:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: parsifal
Actually El Dorado has always been in Arkansas.
11 posted on 07/28/2002 5:15:01 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
This just in:

Explorers have found a companion lost city, where the streets are paved with Astroturf:













El Camino.
12 posted on 07/28/2002 5:17:44 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yes. And the streets are paved with tobacco drippings and hog doo-doo. parsy.
13 posted on 07/28/2002 5:23:14 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: vannrox
I won't believe it unless those two cartoon guys from the movie sing along with Rosie Perez.
14 posted on 07/28/2002 5:37:00 PM PDT by LS
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Actually El Dorado has always been in Arkansas.

Absolutely.

And there's a pretty fair amount of black gold around El Dorado.

And a diamond mine somewhere there in Arkansaw.

15 posted on 07/28/2002 5:54:00 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: vannrox
And you can bet those caverns and caves of El Dorado make for interesting acoustics. Didn't Jeff Lynn and the Electric Light Orchestra record there circa 1974:

16 posted on 07/28/2002 5:57:29 PM PDT by RFP
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To: vannrox
!Oh Yeah Bump!!!
17 posted on 07/28/2002 6:03:07 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian
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To: RFP
Are those Hillary's fingers???
18 posted on 07/28/2002 6:10:27 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Ole Okie
And a diamond mine somewhere there in Arkansaw.

Hope, AR?

19 posted on 07/28/2002 6:11:58 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: vannrox
If this is really the city sought for, a vast amount of gold and silver bullion will be found.
20 posted on 07/28/2002 6:12:36 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: vannrox
Looks like the members of the Electric Light Orchestra might be due some better
royalty checks if some of their music gets used for the inevitable specials on this
find on PBS, History, or other channels(they put out an album titled "El Dorado").
21 posted on 07/28/2002 6:16:09 PM PDT by VOA
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To: vannrox
An international team of explorers claims to have found the legendary Inca city of gold...

Bill Clinton said: "I wanted to find it, but the Republicans wouldn't let me."

According to legend, the treasures of the last Inca rulers were buried under the lake.

If they find it, let the games begin.

First, salvage claims by the explorers. Then antiquities claims by Peru. Then reparations claims by all the surrounding countries from which the slaves came.

-PJ

22 posted on 07/28/2002 6:25:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: lizma
"All this only shows that the dream of finding a lost city of gold is as strong for us today as it was for the Spaniards in the 17th century, " he said.

I never tried it, but I bet gold doesn't taste as good as hogs, cows, sheep or goats.

What was the fixiation, (is that a word?) with gold back then?

I thought wealth was how many cattle and tents you had. Maybe how many fields you had.

When did gold happen?

23 posted on 07/28/2002 6:36:47 PM PDT by carenot
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To: parsifal
Yes. And the streets are paved with tobacco drippings and hog doo-doo. parsy.

Hey parsy, I always love your posts.

I live in Texas and I am thinkin', I would much rather walk in doo-doo in the heat than on a street of gold.

We do have a river here to wash it off.

24 posted on 07/28/2002 6:42:56 PM PDT by carenot
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To: vannrox
How did a lake end up on top of it?
25 posted on 07/28/2002 6:43:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: crystalk
If this is really the city sought for, a vast amount of gold and silver bullion will be found.
____

More likely the gold and silver would be in the form of jewelry and ornaments...finished products so to speak. Lots of riches for the king and the nobility.
26 posted on 07/28/2002 6:44:39 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Dog Gone
How did a lake end up on top of it?

The Democrats did it?

27 posted on 07/28/2002 6:45:34 PM PDT by carenot
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To: vannrox
Solid proof that South America is not overcrowded.
28 posted on 07/28/2002 6:48:20 PM PDT by per loin
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To: carenot
something to do with sucker fish and water rights...
29 posted on 07/28/2002 6:50:01 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: per loin
Solid proof that South America is not overcrowded.

One could argue that if it's necessary to build your cities underwater, it's way too crowded.

30 posted on 07/28/2002 7:01:21 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: vannrox
Bump for a very cool post!
31 posted on 07/28/2002 7:38:00 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Hope, AR?

Absolutely correct.

What other state has a field which, when plowed daily, occasionally yields a fairly low quality diamond?

Only Arkansaw.

32 posted on 07/28/2002 7:46:05 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: carenot
In Medievil times gold leaf was use on food and they thought it had some medicinal value. (Hard pressed it would taste better than a good BBQ sauce but when tomatoes first came to Europe, the acid in tomatoes would leach out the lead in the plates and pottery. Not a good era for anything tomatoe based.)

I've read that gold first became popular around 6000 B.C. A little later in this History of Gold.

Bottom line "keeping up with the Jones" probably started about 30,000 years ago. Till this day, anything rare and shiny enthalls us, especially if you are a human of the XX variety. Remember diamonds are a girl's best friend!

33 posted on 07/28/2002 8:29:44 PM PDT by lizma
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To: vannrox
Do you think this is why the price of gold dropped so abruptly a few days ago?
34 posted on 07/28/2002 9:03:37 PM PDT by Edmund Burke
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To: vannrox
Cool. Very exciting. If it's true
35 posted on 07/28/2002 9:54:06 PM PDT by watcher1
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To: Admin Moderator
Considering the historical significance of finding one of the ancient cities of Western Civilization, I think this is an appropriate article for Front Page News.

But I have a question -

I posted this same article yesterday as a news article, but it got moved to the "Moose and Cheese" forum. Why was it reclassified?

36 posted on 07/28/2002 10:33:26 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
No URL perhaps?
37 posted on 07/29/2002 12:23:54 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: HAL9000
I don't know why that was moved, but it has been moved back to News.
38 posted on 07/29/2002 12:52:56 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: vannrox
Wanna have some fun with the enviro-wackos?

Re-print the title of this and add "Logging & drilling begins in two weeks"

39 posted on 07/29/2002 1:02:15 AM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: VOA
Yes, and it is the finest album they ever did (among many great ones)...Get it & check out "Illusions In G Major" and "Mister Kingdom" just for two...Awesome!
40 posted on 07/29/2002 1:08:42 AM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: Admin Moderator
I don't know why that was moved, but it has been moved back to News.

You must be one of the Good Moderators. Thanks!

41 posted on 07/29/2002 9:27:58 AM PDT by HAL9000
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