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New Yorkers pour scorn on the leaders lost for words (BAD TASTE ALERT?)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | September 7, 2002 | Marcus Warren

Posted on 09/06/2002 11:34:51 PM PDT by MadIvan

Never normally at a loss for words, New Yorkers are ridiculing their leaders for relying on oratory from the past rather than writing their own speeches for next week's anniversary of September 11.

The ceremony to mark the destruction of the Twin Towers features the mayor and the state governor but, instead of delivering new addresses, they will perform a medley of "greatest hits" from American rhetorical history.

New York's day will resound with renditions of the Declaration of Independence, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address and Franklin D Roosevelt's Four Freedoms speech.

While reaffirming America's pride in its heritage, the selection also underlines the challenge of commemorating an event without precedent.

A procession of bagpipe bands, a reading of the names of those who died and religious services across New York will pay tribute to the victims. President George W Bush will join other world leaders in the grieving city later in the day.

In theory the choice of speeches could be commended for simplicity, emotional impact and political sensitivity. However, it has been exposed to blistering criticism. The rhetoric is inappropriate or symbolic of the failure of leadership and imagination by today's politicians, or both, say the mockers.

Most controversial of all is the reading by George Pataki, governor of New York State, of Lincoln's mini-masterpiece at Gettysburg.

Garry Wills, author of a book on the Gettysburg speech, complained: "It is an insult to Lincoln, to the soldiers who died there and to the people who died last year because it doesn't address their specific tragedy."

"It's an insult to say people are incapable of coming up with anything adequate."

Challenged to justify the choice of the 1863 Gettysburg Address, Mr Bloomberg, not renowned for his rhetorical skills, managed a reply that was syntactically tortuous and, at best, of debatable accuracy. It points out that the 2,800 people who died on September 11 are heroes who have died so that we can continue to practise our religion and have the freedoms that we want," he said.

Freedom will be the theme of his own speech, first delivered by Roosevelt in 1941. James McGreevey, New Jersey's governor, will read the 1776 Declaration of Independence with its long list of the "Injuries and Usurpations" imposed on the North American colonies by George III.

As I understand it, many of the charges against poor old George III could be levelled twice as accurately as Governor McGreevy. ;) - Ivan

The poverty of rhetoric for the ceremony highlights the triumph of television with its emphasis on mood music and "moving moments" over the bygone era of rousing oratory.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ny; politicians; speechmaking; yuk
I can understand them being at a loss for words. But it might just be better to have a simple prayer, silence, and then go home.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 09/06/2002 11:34:51 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Tony in Hawaii; AxelPaulsenJr; anatolfz; iceskater; Truth Addict; TonyInOhio; Grampa Dave; ELS; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 09/06/2002 11:35:08 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I can always spot a tourist in the Big Apple.
3 posted on 09/06/2002 11:46:29 PM PDT by Destro
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To: MadIvan
Garry Wills, author of a book on the Gettysburg speech, complained: "It is an insult to Lincoln, to the soldiers who died there and to the people who died last year because it doesn't address their specific tragedy."

I am more than a little surprised by this, since I have been under the impression that Wills, a turncoat former conservative, was not a supporter of the WOT.

As far as the use of historical documents is concerned, it was a great tradition in the US to read the Declaration of Independence in full, as well as other documents, on the Fourth of July. This is in great part because America is a country about ideas, as Margaret Thatcher so accurately pointed out in one of her great speeches. There are still many places where the Declaration is read annually. For another example, George Washington's farewell address is still read in full in Congress every year.

4 posted on 09/07/2002 12:09:57 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: MadIvan
Why is it they feel the need to speak at all? Are they payed to entertain us? Will people be able to remember the murders that took place a year prior if it weren't for the pols telling us that a year has passed?
5 posted on 09/07/2002 12:55:09 AM PDT by PFKEY
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To: MadIvan
A prayer and silence should be a central part of it; but this should not merely be a mourning or memorial service.

We have serious work yet to do before we sheath the sword, and the occasion calls for something appropriate to the task.

It would be nice if they lay off of the politically-correct stuff for once, not mug for the cameras, and maybe read one of Patton's speeches to get the idea.

6 posted on 09/07/2002 1:27:19 AM PDT by piasa
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To: MadIvan
I think oration, whether original or not, by is less preferable than a solemn silent observance. This done in respect for the lost lives of that day, and prayer for those who are afield to do battle for our sakes.
7 posted on 09/07/2002 1:29:50 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: piasa
Then again, these are New York politicians... maybe the moment of silence and the prayer would be best after all.
8 posted on 09/07/2002 1:29:59 AM PDT by piasa
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To: MadIvan
I can't really blame them for reading old speeches. Anything new that they wrote would inevitably piss off somebody somewhere and they'd just get grief over it. Better to stick with something disappointing but harmless.
9 posted on 09/07/2002 1:34:39 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: MadIvan
Since most of these speeches are no longer taught in public schools, they make too much sense and don't promote socialism.......this might be a good thing.

There's a good arguement to made for a national day of mourning..NOT a Holiday.a day of mourning. One day that we can show the kids who are now old enough to understand why we have to fight to be free and the carnage brought to us by our laxness and the barbarians out side our gates.

10 posted on 09/07/2002 1:44:17 AM PDT by Kakaze
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To: MadIvan
These speeches reflect what America is all about. Treasuring our wonderful heritage.

Saddest of all is that most New Yorkers and probably many many Americans have never even read these speeches before.

11 posted on 09/07/2002 4:25:36 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: MadIvan
a simple prayer, silence, and then go home

That works for me.

12 posted on 09/07/2002 5:15:09 AM PDT by LibKill
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, the only problem with this criticism is that most of these liberal pols don't never heard these words and wouldn't recognize them as being from the past, so as far as they are concerned, they are "new."
13 posted on 09/07/2002 5:43:48 AM PDT by LS
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To: MadIvan
Perhaps the writer in the Telegraph doesn't know that original speeches would be castigated for being 'political', since both the mayor and the governor are Republicans (Oh the Horror!) Not speaking in their own words was probably considered preferable in the spirit of 'non-partisanship', to which democrats are very sensitive!
14 posted on 09/07/2002 6:06:56 AM PDT by maica
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To: MadIvan
I agree with you. But, that ceremony wouldn't give Mayor Bloomberg his precious air time. Instead of putting replays of the tragedy on the air, acknowledging the leadership of Mr. Giuliani, and then quietly noting the passing of thousands; Bloomberg would rather have 10 minutes of air time in order to act like he's Lincoln. I've been offended by this conduct since I heard him utter his plans several weeks ago.

Bloomberg is a RINO. He's no Abe Lincoln!

15 posted on 09/07/2002 7:24:51 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: MadIvan
Bump. Besides the liberal NY'er revisionists will proably try to rewrite parts of our founding documents.
16 posted on 09/07/2002 11:34:19 AM PDT by ampat
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To: MadIvan
Everyone's a critic. "Pour scorn of the leaders lost for words?" Anyone who felt it necessary to "pour scorn" or write this tripe needs a wider, wiser perspective on life.

Once, we knew right from wrong. Whining when tough decisions and sacrifices had to be made, enemies faced and our lost mourned would have been considered rude and shameful, tarnishing not only the reputation of the journalist, but the paper. Now, the whiner-children rule the airwaves/press and the adults are abiding by rules for adults

17 posted on 09/07/2002 5:10:21 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: MadIvan
The rhetoric is inappropriate or symbolic of the failure of leadership and imagination by today's politicians, or both, say the mockers.

My objection is the political opportunism. It's an old custom to have readings of the Declaration, etc. at patriotic public events--not much done anymore (perhaps that's changing.) But to do it right they should have someone with great oratory skill. Think Charleton Heston. "When in the course of human events..."

18 posted on 09/07/2002 7:20:00 PM PDT by GVnana
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