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To: Wingsofgold
"You just DAMNED everybody on this thread and you wanna talk about personal attacks."

Another IGNORANT and INCORRECT comment. I said to damn all those that don't give Ritter's arguments any credibility cause he dares to speak out against the government line and Iraq.

How dare he do that. Why he's a traitor. Obviously paid off. Loves Islam. hates our country. The proof? Oh he doesn't like Bush and doesn't think we should send over 300,000 troops to invade Iraq.

Yeah, well I find the motives suspect for this invasion, and I look at the whole history of our involvement and it doesn't add up. And I thnk Ritter found out that the whole inspection thing was a sham and he was being used and he, unlike others wasn't going to rollover and just accept it.

But when another marine, say Oliver North, comes out and does something everyone agrees with, everybody always mentions that he was a marine and has honor, so on and so on.

All I'm saying is, Ritter may be wrong, he may be duped. But he may be right. I don't trust Butler, he's very smooth. I would doubt his veracity before Ritter's. Let's face it freepers, wouldn't you normally trust a Marine over a career Diplomat in a given situation?

Oh, but it doesn't fit with the premanufactured opinion given for you. So he must be a traitor.

NO I think that title should go to the one (George Bush x41, who's so upset that anyone would dare question the CIA for letting 9/11 happen)who was ultimately responsible for letting the invasion of Kuwait happen, and our response, which ended up killing US Troops and infecting thousands more with Gulf War Syndrome, probably as a result of the pills given out by us.

But I suppose those marines were just sniveling whiners, complainers like Ritter, weren't they?
189 posted on 09/12/2002 12:15:07 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
ummm...look quick....is there a black helicopter flying over your house ???
192 posted on 09/12/2002 12:23:25 PM PDT by twyn1
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To: DrLiberty
You're right. You didn't say *all* FReepers on this thread were damned. Just the ones who think Ritter's lost his mind.

Count me in as being damned.

193 posted on 09/12/2002 12:24:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: DrLiberty
"I said to damn all those that don't give Ritter's arguments any credibility cause he dares to speak out against the government line and Iraq. "

Sounds to me like he got it right since you're about the only one here who thinks Ritter isn't a traitor. Looks to me like you're a little confused about who is off base here.

BTW, what does being and former marine have to do with his having been turned ? A rotten one can even sneak into the corp on occasion. Ritter was a former weapons inspector who once said that Saddam was a threat. Seems to me he has a history of turning on a dime or is it $400K

196 posted on 09/12/2002 12:27:38 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: DrLiberty
The simplist reason for not trusting Ritter is that he has stabbed two presidents in the back, and has done so with contradictory statements.

We all applauded when he accused clinton of running a flabby inspection program, but now he says it was a flawless program -- that despite all the talk of cheating, nothing got past them.

I don't need a Ph.D. to figure something's wrong. No one can run a perfect inspection program. It ain't possible.

207 posted on 09/12/2002 12:36:27 PM PDT by js1138
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To: DrLiberty
'Gulf War Syndrome' hasn't even been proven to exist. It is credited with causing every illness known to man from herpes, muscle spasms, the flu, torn ligaments and tooth decay.

One of the leading proponents of 'Gulf War Syndrome' is a gal named Rosenberg who has the experience of a teenage girl on a first date with a football player. She too has a bad habit of coming to Iraq's rescue, which is no surprise given that she worked for the Cuban Ministry of Health and spent time 'studying' in Rhodesia, which is something she finds suspicious about other people butr conveniently doesn't mention it about herself. She gets some of her tripe from another idiot who is associated with 'Physicians for a Responsible Society' and a related anti-nuke group which has targetted US scientists for some time on behalf of the Greens. She is also the gal who has tried to finger four US scientists for anthrax, including a guy whose specialty was ebola and another who was just a lab tech now employed at a bowling alley. Real impressive credentials she has- good enough to get in front of congress to testify, which makes everyone ooh and ah over her as an expert even though she hasn't written a serious scientific paper, but then, even Barbara Streisand has testified before Congress as an 'expert.'

Outside of all that, Ritter has taken money from a pro-Iraq lobbyist to make a propaganda film for Iraq, married a Russian arms inspector while he was supposedly on the job, lied on his CIA application, and is an obvious liar here since what he says contradicts his prior testimony. HE was either lying to congress or he's lying now. Either way, he's a liar, only his more recent outbursts are only confirmed by one witness: Saddam Hussein. Testimony of other arms inspectors and Iraqi defectors contradicts his current views.

218 posted on 09/12/2002 12:44:29 PM PDT by piasa
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To: DrLiberty
You're missing the point, Doc. Ritter is discredited because he has reversed course on himself, not because he says something unpopular. Yes, there is a lot of vitriole in some of these posts, but these people are expressing their opinion on someone who has invited vitriolic comment by his own actions.

Butler may be overly smooth, but he's not out there hawking for a cause that four years ago was the target of his ire.

As for wrapping insults in flowery language, as you have been doing, I think I'll refrain from commenting too much. I'd rather let your arrogance and pomposity carry you away. Don't take that as an insult, though. It's only my opinion.

224 posted on 09/12/2002 12:50:01 PM PDT by MortMan
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To: DrLiberty; Wingsofgold
From Wingsofgold:

You just DAMNED everybody on this thread and you wanna talk about personal attacks.

From DrLiberty:

Another IGNORANT and INCORRECT comment. I said to damn all those that don't give Ritter's arguments any credibility

Dr. Liberty, I think that IS everybody on this thread.. (except you and some DU representitive who joined today). I guess you can tell alot about a person by the company they keep...

260 posted on 09/12/2002 1:42:13 PM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: DrLiberty
Let's face it freepers, wouldn't you normally trust a Marine over a career Diplomat in a given situation?

What makes you think that the Corps doesn't have the same percentage of liars, prevaricators, time servers and layabouts as the rest of the population?

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine, wasn't he?

300 posted on 09/12/2002 2:13:05 PM PDT by metesky
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To: DrLiberty
Your pathetic attempts to blame the US for all of the world's ills and glorify the arabs make me think that you have better command of the English language than most of your Iraqi family. It's a shame you cannot read historic documents quoting your hero tex ritter oops make that scott ripper ooops ritter changing his statements for money.
387 posted on 09/12/2002 6:00:17 PM PDT by zip
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