Despite equality, women today still prefer gentlemen

The UK Telegraph ^ | 9-20-02 | By Sarah Womack Social Affairs Correspondent

[Verginius Rufus]

A good cinematic example of a gentleman deliberately insulting someone is in A Man for All Seasons when Sir Thomas More (Paul Scofield) insults his friend (Norfolk?) because he's trying to end their friendship. One line is to the effect that the English nobility would have slept through the Sermon on the Mount.

[DakotaGator]

You, sir, are not a true gentleman. How do you know that the woman you open the door for in a grocery store, a stranger to you, has met your criteria? I am laughing out loud, really.

LOL! Thanks for the question Conservobabe. The answer is easy. I always hold the door. The woman's reaction tells me if she's a lady (they always smile & thank you).

Prompting gentlemanly behavior is almost the same as getting a puppy to wag its tail...you just pet them!

[Conservababe]

President Clinton, on the other hand, is a true cad. And a stupid cad at that, as he has never thought the need to be a gentleman.

At Clinton's first inargural ball, he threw old Hillary around like a sack of potatoes on the dance floor, while waving over his shoulder at others in the room. And we never saw his daughter during the campaign until polls showed that most people had never even guessed that they had a child. And I do remember Clinton saying when Newt's mother called Hillary a bitch to Connie Chung, he said "why my mother would say the same thing". His mother was already deceased, if I recall.

A true gentleman respects the women in his life and Bill Clinton did not.

[alpowolf]

I understand what you're saying. Rewarding bad behavior usually encourages it.

I try not to let my actions be manipulated in that fashion. A true gentleman is such in spite of those who do not value manners or honor. (Sometimes it's hard, and I confess I don't always meet my own standards. It can be a daily struggle.)

It is not for me to judge another's worthiness. It's also a bad idea to let yourself be defined by others.

[Conservababe]

LOL! Thanks for the question Conservobabe. The answer is easy. I always hold the door. The woman's reaction tells me if she's a lady (they always smile & thank you).

As well you should, if you are a gentleman. Tis nice if a lady says thank you with a smile. (I always do). But, a true gentleman does not care if the woman does not. He knows in his heart that he is who he is, confident in his definition of gallantry.

[nightdriver]

"A true gentleman respects the women in his life and Bill Clinton did not."

So why were 2 out of 3 votes for Clinton in 1996 cast by women?

[alpowolf]

This illustrates the point I started out with. Large segments of the female population have no appreciation for real men. But that doesn't make them right. Conservobabe's statement is still correct.

[weikel]

Funny most women tend to go for a**holes.

[weikel]

True its so sad what the feminazis did. Under the Weikelian Empire feminist would share the gallows with communist and islamic clerics.

[grasshopper2]

A true gentleman is such in spite of those who do not value manners or honor. (Sometimes it's hard, and I confess I don't always meet my own standards. It can be a daily struggle.) It is not for me to judge another's worthiness. It's also a bad idea to let yourself be defined by others.

Wow! Will you marry me?

[alpowolf]

I want to say yes but must remind myself,Festina lente. I would be delighted to make your acquaitance.

[DeweyCA]

What a terribly sad and cynical thread.

But he is absolutely correct. If you comment on a woman colleague's appearance, you can get fired, and taken to court for sexual harassment. That is the truth. That is the law. I have quit giving women colleagues any compliments at all on their appearance. Many years ago, I did it a lot in order to encourage them, and let them feel good. Now it is too dangerous. It is foolish to take a chance. Ladies, you can thank your feminist leaders for accomplishing this.

[PoorMuttly]

Since it takes 2 to tango...

Women want gentlemen...but gentlemen must settle for "women"...not LADIES?

This is a crooked deck.

[Centurion2000]

Working out the difference between chivalry and sexism may be a minefield for men, but most women would prefer them to be more gallant, a survey has found

Minefield for men ?? If a woman can't appreciate chivalry, honor and courtesy, that's HER problem and I would not want to have a realtionship with her in any event.

[shaggy eel]

,,, you're right Muttly. I was brought up with good manners and they had a value attached to them. Now, our culture seems to define a gentleman as one who takes the weight on his elbows.

It's easy to pick someone, male or female, who can identify with manners and they're worthy of such courtesy. Womyn are easy to profile and if my path crosses with their path, they're treated as equals - very easy.

[PoorMuttly]

My Dad was once empowered to oversee the refurbishment of a high fashion salon on 7th. Ave., NYC some years ago. He sent a man to the hardware store to get a new sign for the rest room. The man came back with a "Ladies" sign.

The famous Lt.Col. eyebrow went up...he handed the sign back, and added to his Garment Industry reputation with the words: "Ladies do not leave a rest room in this condition. Take it back, and get one that says "Women."

[Conservababe]

So why were 2 out of 3 votes for Clinton in 1996 cast by women?

Women who voted for Clinton are not ladies.

[shaggy eel]

,,, insight, indeed.

[shaggy eel]

BTTT

[Conservababe]

I think we are confusing the true gentleman with one who merely has manners. Not so, as it runs much deeper.