White House Releases National Security Strategy

FOX ^ | 9/20/02

[adam stevens]

Just watch how the Democrats will come out of the woodwork to oppose this and will say America risks becoming "imperialist," a term that only commies like them understand.

[Liberty Tree Surgeon]

Boy, is this going p.o. the peaceniks and Libertarians.

Well, I consider myself libertarian on most issues (with the biggest distinction from the Big L's of opposing open borders), and I like what I've seen so far just fine. One cannot value freedom without realizing that it isn't free, and that we must not sit back and wait to be attacked.

LTS

[Common Tator]

There is a huge problem with deterrence when used on a muslim nation.

The Russians Communists were atheists. They believed that when life on earth was over all life was over. They did not believe in life after death. Thus if you could convince the Russians that an attack on us, even if successful. would result in their deaths too, there was nothing to be gained by attacking us. They could only lose too. That was the reasoning behind mutually assured destruction. It worked.

But if a nation believes that attacking its enemies and dying in the process guarantees its citizens instant transformation to an honored spot next to allah in Heaven, then what we call deterrence is their answer to fervent prayer.

The fact that all 18 hijackers on 911 were going to die did not deter them. It urged them on. They were going to eternal life and luxury in total happyness. Eternal life and luxury in total happyness is an attraction not a deterrent.

With such peoples and nations the only decision is how much force must they have to make a credible attack. They get the reward in heaven for the success of their attack. Once they feel sure of being successful in the attack then their own death is just a short cut to a prefered spot in Allah's heaven.

The only possible defense to people with such beliefs is an offense that takes them out before they attack us.

The left tells us Saddam is not really a devout Muslim. Uh! HUH!. They want to bet my life on that assumption. Do you want to let them bet yours?

[DH]

I can't find the chapter in the index that pertains to protection of our southern border with Mexico nor anything about enforcing laws against illegal aliens. Did I miss something or did they?

[A Navy Vet]

It's my understanding that Libertarians are somewhat pro isolationist. This new "strategy" is contrary to that position and will expand America's pro-active involvement with the World, including more nation building.

[taxcontrol]

Actually, the "National Strategy to Secury Cyberspace (draft)" is the laughing stock within the security community.

In short, it's a lot of touchy feely, "lets all do what's right", JUNK. At best it is a very timid, toe in the water test ballon.

Now before you Freepers start thinking I'm in favor of government regulation (I'm not), there are a lot of things the feds could do that have not even been addresed here.

For example, the Feds are one of the largest buyers of software. By adopting software development standandards that include security (think the old ISO 9000 and 9001 process) and only doing business with those companies that adhere to those standards, the OVERALL quality of software will improve - not only for the Feds, but for us as well.

In essence, raise the bar for federal purchases. As vendors meet this new standard, it will improve the quality for everyone. No one is required to meet this new standard - unless they wish to do business with the Feds.

etc. etc. etc. There are lots of Fed only type efforts that could be done to improve software, assure that we have enough security experts and track down criminals. In fact, I've already identified 17 proposals to the CISSP (security certification) body to review and put into their response.

[arkfreepdom]

No difference between Bush and Gore, huh?

[EGPWS]

"Any questions as to differences between Bush and Gore?"

Well...YES! I know Dubya' is from Texas but I have pondered whether or not they both are from the same planet or not!
Could you enlighten me?

[BlueNgold]

I hope I speak for many when I say that I am happy and proud to have a President that understands his responsibility is to place America first - cooperate internationally when possible, but in the end - America First!

[EGPWS]

"The Bush strategy is the most aggressive U.S. strategy since the Reagan administration, if not before."

Ahh, how refereshing to hear Reagan's name again, especially in this context.

However, I see it as "The Bush strategy is the most sensible and U.S. oriented strategy since the Reagan administration, if not before."

[austingirl]

"If a dog makes a dash for my trousers, I shoot him down before he can bite"

What an inept analogy. I guess you like being a sitting duck - to use a much more appropriate comparison.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for posting this!

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[scalia_#1]

What an inept analogy. I guess you like being a sitting duck - to use a much more appropriate comparison.

You should think hard on that "inept analogy." I was agreeing with you--and the president for that matter. It's a direct quote from Winston Churchill, urging preemptive action against the growing, but still nascent, Nazi threat.

[austingirl]

Sorry - I didn't know the quote.

[johnb838]

America risks becoming "imperialist

Every time I hear the commies talk about us being imperialist it makes me want us to show them what imperialism and hegemony are REALLY all about.

[johnb838]

I am convinced that there are fewer of the true believers of the death seeking 72-virgin variety than the enemy would have us believe. More of the surrender to CNN variety.

[adam stevens]

For better or worse we are going to have take over a lot of countries before we defeat terrorism.

[phasma proeliator]

PING

[ChipShot]

Magnum 44 wrote - "....It has wide ranging impact that will bring smiles to many on this forum, though patience is required as the wheels of govt turn slowly."

It is unfortunate that you are correct, but at least we have someone in place that is pushing and prodding these wheels in the right direction.

[marron]

Pay attention to section IX.

Reading this is like music.

It would be hard to implement during peacetime. Just as, in peace time, all the wrong people rise through the ranks, it is also hard to implement radical changes in the way things are done. Its hard to get a sense of urgency, but moreover its hard because you don't get any immediate feedback to know if what you are doing will work. But in the present climate we should be able to work a lot of this out.