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Speed of light broken with basic lab kit - Four billion km/h attainable!
New Scientist ^ | 10:03 16 September 02 | Charles Choi

Posted on 09/23/2002 9:22:00 AM PDT by vannrox

Speed of light broken with basic lab kit

 
10:03 16 September 02

Charles Choi

 

Electric signals can be transmitted at least four times faster than the speed of light using only basic equipment that would be found in virtually any college science department.

Scientists have sent light signals at faster-than-light speeds over the distances of a few metres for the last two decades - but only with the aid of complicated, expensive equipment. Now physicists at Middle Tennessee State University have broken that speed limit over distances of nearly 120 metres, using off-the-shelf equipment costing just $500.

Jeremy Munday and Bill Robertson made a 120-metre-long cable by alternating six- to eight-metre-long lengths of two different kinds of coaxial cable, each with a different electrical resistance. They hooked this hybrid cable up to two signal generators, one of which broadcast a fast wave, the other a slow one. The waves interfere with each other to produce electric pulses, which can be watched using an oscilloscope.

Any pulse, whether electrical, light or sound, can be imagined as a group of tiny intermingled waves. The energy of this "group pulse" rises and falls over space, with a peak in the middle. The different electrical resistances in the hybrid cable cause the waves in the pulse's rear to reflect off each other, accelerating the pulse's peak forward.


Four billion km/h

By using the oscilloscope to trace the pulse's strength and speed, the researchers confirmed they sent the signal's peak tunnelling through the cable at more than four billion kilometres per hour.

"It really is basement science," Robertson said. The apparatus is so simple that Robertson once assembled the setup from scratch in 40 minutes.

While the peak moves faster than light speed, the total energy of the pulse does not. This means Einstein's relativity is preserved, so do not expect super-fast starships or time machines anytime soon.

Signals also get weaker and more distorted the faster they go, so in theory no useful information can get transmitted at faster-than-light speeds, though Robertson hopes his students and others can now rigorously and cheaply test those ideas.

Physicist Alain Hache at the University of Moncton in Canada adds that it may be possible to use this reflection technique to boost electrical signal speeds in computers and telecommunications grids by more than 50 per cent.

Electrons usually travel at about two-thirds of light speed in wires, slowed down as they bump into atoms. Hache says it may be possible to send usable electrical signals to near light speed.

 
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Very exciting.
1 posted on 09/23/2002 9:22:01 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox; Physicist
This was posted a week ago and discussed ad nauseum. This is nothing new. Physicist says the group velocity remains sub light while the phase velocity is faster than light. My opinion is that they are setting up a large number of waves in a bounded wave guide such that the interference pattern of the waves make it seem like a single pulse is traveling at above light speeds, but what they are really looking at is a summation of sub light waves where the superposition of said waves only give an appearance of above light speed.
2 posted on 09/23/2002 9:29:16 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
Yeah, um...what you said.
3 posted on 09/23/2002 9:33:23 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: staytrue
Sorry. I didn't search deeply enough. Please go HERE for that posting.

-VANNROX
4 posted on 09/23/2002 9:36:59 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: staytrue
Or as Asimov once put it, things that move faster than light aren't really "things".

The real news is that they did it so inexpensively.

5 posted on 09/23/2002 9:41:12 AM PDT by Salman
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To: vannrox
"in theory no useful information can get transmitted at faster-than-light speeds"

Upon viewing ABC News, it appears that the same is true for slower-than-light speeds.

6 posted on 09/23/2002 9:46:17 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: vannrox
For even more comments, go here.
7 posted on 09/23/2002 9:47:47 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Nice to know, though, that Al Gore is back in the lab!
8 posted on 09/23/2002 9:55:37 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Salman
"things that move faster than light aren't really "things". "

And what IS a "thing"? We know objects aren't solid or fixed in form, already...very intriguing.

9 posted on 09/23/2002 9:58:03 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: robertpaulsen
They sure are things. They just have no information content.
10 posted on 09/23/2002 12:17:37 PM PDT by eno_
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To: staytrue
They are merely changing the standing wave pattern on a series of transmission lines of different impedances. If you take into account the time it takes to set up the standing wave pattern, it is actually slower than the free space speed of light. Once the standing wave pattern is established, the resultant waveform can exceed c.
11 posted on 09/23/2002 1:40:14 PM PDT by Barry Goldwater
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To: staytrue
I agree. No way are they doing anything faster than c.
12 posted on 09/23/2002 3:24:27 PM PDT by M. T. Cicero II
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